Found Deceased JAPAN - Patricia "Pattie" Wu-Murad, 60, US Citizen, on hiking trip Kumano Kodo Trail, didn't arr next stop Osaka, 10 Apr 2023

  • #761
Without diving deeply back into this, I'm getting a vibe she seems to have taken an alternate trail that morning..is that what others are sensing?

JMO
 
  • #762
Without diving deeply back into this, I'm getting a vibe she seems to have taken an alternate trail that morning..is that what others are sensing?

JMO

Your question answered:

Good article, @Unalienable Rights .

Paraphrasing some of what the rest of the article says:

The backpack was not on the Kumano Kodo Kohechi trail, but off another trail.

The entry to this trail is close to the one she was supposed to be on.

Pattie’s husband said that (his opinion) the Kohechi wasn’t well marked until after Pattie went missing. Yet it’s hard for him to imagine Pattie making this mistake.

This ‘incorrect’ trail near where her things were found was actually searched before. It was a treacherous one. They had calculated at that time that if she fell, she would fall on the left.

The backpack was located on the right.
 
  • #763
Your question answered:
Oh, thanks, I missed that.

I doubt that Patti made a mistake. She'd perhaps been 'plodding' along official trails for many days, and liked to explore/take photos for a while in the morning before leaving the village.

JMO
 
  • #764
Oh, thanks, I missed that.

I doubt that Patti made a mistake. She'd perhaps been 'plodding' along official trails for many days, and liked to explore/take photos for a while in the morning before leaving the village.

JMO

Not so sure about that. Apparently Pattie went North, roughly backwards in the direction of where she had come from the previous day, instead of South on the next leg of the Kohechi trail.
 
  • #765
Not so sure about that. Apparently Pattie went North, roughly backwards in the direction of where she had come from the previous day, instead of South on the next leg of the Kohechi trail.
Perhaps.

I just feel the cases with sad endings I've followed - say Julian Barnes or Esther Dingley - it's the skilled hiker who is ambitious, who deliberately goes onto a dangerous trail, rather than a cautious hiker who is confused and trying to find help.

JMO
 
  • #766
Perhaps.

I just feel the cases with sad endings I've followed - say Julian Barnes or Esther Dingley - it's the skilled hiker who is ambitious, who deliberately goes onto a dangerous trail, rather than a cautious hiker who is confused and trying to find help.

JMO

Pattie was supposed to be on her way to the next guesthouse where she had a reservation, because that is how it works at the Kohechi trail and the other trails of the Kumano Kodo. Strictly organized. You make your reservations before the start.

IMO she took the wrong trail by mistake ~ or someone took her ~ but deviating deliberately from the trail and going backwards instead of forward is not a viable option.
 
  • #767
Pattie was supposed to be on her way to the next guesthouse where she had a reservation, because that is how it works at the Kohechi trail and the other trails of the Kumano Kodo. Strictly organized. You make your reservations before the start.

IMO she took the wrong trail by mistake ~ or someone took her ~ but deviating deliberately from the trail and going backwards instead of forward is not a viable option.
I agree. I believe that she made a very common mistake that can be made by almost anyone, and took the wrong trail early on. For whatever reason, she likely didn’t realize for a while. Then was down quite a ways when she either 1. Suffered a devastating injury/medical event/fall from the trail 2. Started panicking about her wrong location, and attempted to navigate back to the original trail, and then had the injury/medical event fall. I am not certain which is most likely based on location, and her remains are scattered anyway. We will likely never know. But I’ll hold our hope that maybe more remains and belongings will be found and more insight can be gathered.
 
  • #768
Pattie was supposed to be on her way to the next guesthouse where she had a reservation, because that is how it works at the Kohechi trail and the other trails of the Kumano Kodo. Strictly organized. You make your reservations before the start.

IMO she took the wrong trail by mistake ~ or someone took her ~ but deviating deliberately from the trail and going backwards instead of forward is not a viable option.
Yes of course. I have done a lot of multi-day backpacking/walking trips, myself.

17 km is not that long a day, when she's been out there every day for quite a while.
There was no necessity for her to get onto the trail at 7 am and march straight to her next destination. She had the whole day to get there. Why would she leave so early?

The place near where her backpack was found, Totsukawa village, is apparently an exceptionally beautiful place:

"Visiting Totsukawa is like stepping into another realm. The landscape — astonishingly beautiful and bordering on fantastical — is covered with lush, verdant mountains that seem to brush against the sky. A bright, turquoise river snakes alongside the road into the heart of the village, contrasting sharply with the stony cliff faces at the water’s edge and suffusing the scenery with a serene, mystical quality"

In her situation, I would want to see that place before I left, since I would probably never return. I and my companions have done similar things on our trips, often: it's morning, we're fresh and full of vim, so lets go early on a quick side hike, up to this fabulous peak/viewpoint, before heading back onto the scheduled route, which is a bit of a boring slog.

Apparently the person who found her things on the trail only walked an hour, although they must have been scanning the edge closely looking for signs.

I think she could well have taken a serious risk in venturing to a higher, dangerous place to get - what else - a view and photos...

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JMO
 
  • #769
Totsukawa Village, where Pattie's backpack was found according to Murphy, has an area of 672,38 km² (over 400 square miles). It is huge and it would take more than a few hours to visit. In fact, the Kohechi trail passes through Totsukawa, so pattie was already there.

Pattie's next stop was Totsukawa Onsen. Totsukawa Onsen is a smaller area within Totsukawa Village, and famous for it's hot springs and baths.
 
  • #770
In an article published on April 20, 2023, it says she was supposed to meet friends that evening. I imagine that is why she left so early in the morning.


From article:

When she didn’t arrive to meet friends that night from Wethersfield, Connecticut who were in Japan, the friends notified authorities that she was missing.

“We know that if she left at 7 a.m., she definitely would have been to her next stop before 5 p.m. There's no doubt about it. And so now we're thinking what else could it be? Could she be a victim of a crime? So, I met with the police again today (Thursday). We asked the police to open up a criminal investigation. Not that we have any suspects, but we just want to open all avenues because really, right now, she disappeared off the face of the earth. We don't know how,” said (husband Kirk) Murad.
 
  • #771
Are there any maps displaying Patti’s supposed route versus where her body was found?

I also wonder if the remains have any indication that could suggest her cause of death, for example a skull fracture or fractured leg. It doesn’t seem like it from the articles. But curious.
This is a map provided by the family on the Help Find Pattie page, except I added in red text in English where Pattie last stayed and therefore started out from last, and where the next guesthouse she was going to stay at that evening. I think the areas in the thicker red mostly follows the trail she was supposed to be hiking on (I think it may be the areas searched). The Post-it points to where the backpack was found. The femur bone was found somewhere in the general area of the backpack.

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  • #772
I was heavily involved with Pattie's thread when she first went missing, and have only just become aware that she has been located. RIP, Pattie.

My feelings are a mixture of devastation, relief and confusion.

I drew up a lot of maps of Pattie's intended route when she first went missing, and now it turns out she was heading in entirely the wrong direction: north instead of south. Not only up entirely the wrong track, but up the wrong mountain! I had always incorrectly assumed she would have at least been heading in the correct general direction.

We'll probably never know what happened or how she became so horribly lost, but I do hope her passing was quick and she didn't suffer.
 
  • #773

Gift article about an American hiker who was hiking alone in Norway and had a catastrophic fall. Despite being stuck for days with broken bones, unable to move, he was eventually rescued. I couldn’t help but think about Pattie when reading this. Although I doubt she was as reckless as this hiker, it is scary to see how quickly this man was critically injured and how he lost almost all of his gear in mere seconds.
 
  • #774
..... it turns out she was heading in entirely the wrong direction: north instead of south. Not only up entirely the wrong track, but up the wrong mountain!

I wonder what lead to her going in the opposite direction and up the wrong mountain.
Was it lack of clear sign-posts on the trails? You think they'd be clearly marked.

Did she leave the guesthouse and turn left instead of right? Or were the start of the trails in the same direction?

She was an experienced trail walker. How sad, and shows making basic mistakes can happen to everyone and anyone.
RIP Pattie.
 
  • #775
This is a map provided by the family on the Help Find Pattie page, except I added in red text in English where Pattie last stayed and therefore started out from last, and where the next guesthouse she was going to stay at that evening. I think the areas in the thicker red mostly follows the trail she was supposed to be hiking on (I think it may be the areas searched). The Post-it points to where the backpack was found. The femur bone was found somewhere in the general area of the backpack.

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Could she have left extra early to hike part of that loop first, before heading south to her next guesthouse? If guesthouse to guesthouse was 17 km, that could take anywhere from 6-9 hours depending on trail difficulty. Maybe she'd figured out how long it would take her and thought she had time to head north first to catch a view or something.
 
  • #776
Jurisdiction and sovereignty issues.

Interpol is mostly for fugitives.
That's not correct. Interpol is a body which facilitates cooperation between police forces around the world and can therefore be involved in whatever police work those forces bring to its attention. It does, for instance, issue Yellow Notices for missing/abducted persons and Black Notices for UIDs to draw attention to these cases across international and jurisdictional boundaries.

 
  • #777
Just now saw she was found. So sad. RIP, and condolences to her family.
 
  • #778
Yes. Now they know.
 
  • #779
The Enfield Loaves & Fishes, the soup kitchen Pattie volunteered at every Thursday named their dining hall after her, after learning there has been definitive proof she is deceased. She had been their Thursday head chef.

They thought so highly of her:
"She was very sweet, very smart, very quick-witted, extremely funny, and just really, really generous," [Executive Director] Matthews said. "She was an amazing person."


I think Pattie would’ve been a pleasure to meet and know in person. Such a loss! Those she touched will remember her, with wonderful memories. 😢
 
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