Jason Young to get new trial #2

[Landonsmom02]

They did link the print DNA to Jason but he lived there. There was no testimony that it was mixed in blood. afaik, there was no testimony by a blood spatter expert due to the Deaver debacle.

But how do you explain the print SURROUNDED by her blood? It could have only gotten there during her murder.

 

[SStarr33]

IIRC those were MY hairs?

All of them?

 

[sunshine05]

But how do you explain the print SURROUNDED by her blood? It could have only gotten there during her murder.

That's not true. If he touched that area at any time before this, it could still be present.

 

[Landonsmom02]

That's not true. If he touched that area at any time before this, it could still be present.

So JY print is found surrounded by MY blood splatter but he wasn't there and could have been left anytime? Yeah ok.......so what was there then? In your opinion. What made that void surrounded by blood splatter?

 

[jova33]

IIRC those were MY hairs?

Most of them were. One they couldn't get DNA from, and one was from an unidentified person.

Sent from your mom's smartphone

 

[JusticeFever]

That's not true. If he touched that area at any time before this, it could still be present.

Agent Mike Galloway testified that there was no way of telling how long the print had been there , this is from the sheetrock testimony. Had Jason's hand been on the wall at any time during the murder, his prints would have been found in blood, not in a place where there was no blood. At no time was Jason's DNA ever mixed in with Michelle's blood.

 

[minor4th]

They did link the print DNA to Jason but he lived there. There was no testimony that it was mixed in blood. afaik, there was no testimony by a blood spatter expert due to the Deaver debacle.

I guess I got it wrong about the DNA mixed with blood. But I understand the theory of Jason's DNA being present in a place where there was a void in blood spatter.

It's meaningful, but certainly not conclusive of anything.

 

[minor4th]

But how do you explain the print SURROUNDED by her blood? It could have only gotten there during her murder.

The "real" killer just happened to place his hand in that exact location while beating Michelle to death, but inexplicably failed to leave any DNA?

Nah, that makes no sense. I'll go with the states theory

 

[JusticeFever]

The question is, would you take a plea deal that required you to lie and say you did something that you actually didn't do in order to avoid jail time?

I know I wouldn't.

Only if you wanted to gamble with your life on the line. I would take the deal, do the time, knowing that someday I would be out, even if it meant admitting to something I did not do.
JMO

 

[minor4th]

Only if you wanted to gamble with your life on the line. I would take the deal, do the time, knowing that someday I would be out, even if it meant admitting to something I did not do.

JMO

I probably would too

 

[JusticeFever]

The "real" killer just happened to place his hand in that exact location while beating Michelle to death, but inexplicably failed to leave any DNA?

Nah, that makes no sense. I'll go with the states theory

But, thats all it was.......a theory. Jason lived in the house, there are a million ways his prints are going to be there. Were they in blood? No!! There just isn't a smoking gun in this case, there isn't that one big gotcha moment.

These would have been gotcha moments that could never be refuted:

Caught on camera at King or with a credible eye witness
Seen leaving the Hampton Inn parking lot at midnight
Seen pulling back in at the Hampton Inn in the morning
Having the night clerk/auditor finding the door unlocked, open or empty
Scratches, marks, scrapes from being in a struggle
Evidence in the SUV, fibers,hair
A murder weapon, bloody evidence
Jason's hair in Michelle's hand
Having CY scream at Jason when she saw him again

In this case, the state has based their theories on,
a bad marriage, a cheating husband
a camera that was tampered with (happened before)
a object placed to hold the exit door open( people do it all the time)
a missing shirt, shoes that weren't looked for until 2 years later

They got their conviction the 2nd time, but if it had been that strong of a case, they would have had it in the first trial, there would have been no need to include the information about a wrongful death suit, or custody agreement, and the chance of ever even hearing Jason Young's name again would be probably to hear he died in prison.

 

[Madeleine74]

But how do you explain the print SURROUNDED by her blood? It could have only gotten there during her murder.

Or, how do you explain blood going everywhere else on the wall as it spattered, but not on that exact area that coincidentally happened to contain evidence of JY touching that very spot. What was blocking that particular spot during the murder so that blood did not spatter there, a spot in which no one else's DNA or prints were found, and leaving only JY's DNA?

 

[JusticeFever]

I probably would too

Pleas don't come along easily or often in such high profile murder cases, (to my knowledge) which is why I am still shocked over Raven. Out of all these cases, Abaroa, imo, was the slam dunk. Now, he will walk in a few years, and one of these, Cooper or Young may be offered a deal. I am not a gambler, but I would take the deal and not look back. I would look ahead to the day I got out and in Brad and Jason's cases, seeing their daughters again.

 

[JusticeFever]

Or, how do you explain blood going everywhere else on the wall as it spattered, but not on that exact area that coincidentally happened to contain evidence of JY touching that very spot. What was blocking that particular spot during the murder so that blood did not spatter there, a spot in which no one else's DNA or prints were found, and leaving only JY's DNA?

There could have been anything there, even a pillow. I am pretty sure there was an unidentified print found on the sheetrock, I have been listening to testimony for the last few weeks, but I am not up to Galloway yet...If I find it I will post it, if I am wrong I will say that too.

 

[Tia]

For the life of me I can't understand what is so hard to understand that if ANYONE other than JY was there and took her from the home the Youngs would have told someone. After all, they took her away and kept her in Brevard until he gave up custody. You can believe GoJo and Kimmy would have blasted that all over the internet. I don't believe she was taken from the home. CY was very articualate for her age and it's not like she couldn't speak. Hence her trying to tell MF on the 911 call that someone was there. Now IF, it was MF who did this do you really think she would say "I think my neice is trying to say someone was here." I think CB is mistaken about seeing the car there. How is it you all discount GB but think what CB said is good as gold. Wasn't it said at trial that she was a busy body and inserted herself in this case? Guess we all see things different???

Also wasn't it said that daddy gave her fruit snacks that night?? How do we know what bed she was placed in? We don't.....Maybe the phone call is what woke her up? To me is speaks volumes that she was on JY side of the bed.

THANK YOU! I posted something similar, but no one seems to want to talk about it.

 

[SStarr33]

There could have been anything there, even a pillow. I am pretty sure there was an unidentified print found on the sheetrock, I have been listening to testimony for the last few weeks, but I am not up to Galloway yet...If I find it I will post it, if I am wrong I will say that too.

Can you give the link where I can watch the entire trial?

 

[JusticeFever]

Can you give the link where I can watch the entire trial?

Try here.....
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/9636865/

 

[MyBelle]

That's not true. If he touched that area at any time before this, it could still be present.

Correct. And it wasn't a full hand print, it was a partial print. There was NO testimony the print was "surrounded by blood" because common sense dictates part of the print was covered with blood. iow, the print was on the wall PRIOR to Michelle's murder.

JMO

 

[JusticeFever]

THANK YOU! I posted something similar, but no one seems to want to talk about it.

First off, I never heard that JY gave CY fruit snacks, never heard this story, is there a link?
And, CB lived in the neighborhood, on the same street (21 years) as the Youngs and drove past their house each day on her way to work. GB worked at 4 Bros for less than 3-4 months, per her testimony and had great difficulty describing JY without help. And, when she did it on her own, she was completely wrong. And, again where is the regular customer she said was there that day who witnessed the altercation? And, the list of questions I have asked about GB, no one has answers for either.

 

[MyBelle]

Pleas don't come along easily or often in such high profile murder cases, (to my knowledge) which is why I am still shocked over Raven. Out of all these cases, Abaroa, imo, was the slam dunk. Now, he will walk in a few years, and one of these, Cooper or Young may be offered a deal. I am not a gambler, but I would take the deal and not look back. I would look ahead to the day I got out and in Brad and Jason's cases, seeing their daughters again.

JY had the majority of jurors on his side the first time around. The second trial added the sensational, highly prejudicial element of the "slayer" designation and child custody lawsuit. Let's not forget that the new DA was a facilitator of that wrongful death lawsuit. I'll always question why she allowed it to be filed by Michelle's mother in the first place.

JMO