Jason Young to get new trial #3

[PrimeSuspect]

Is this the camera that was unplugged? It has cobwebs on it.:sleuth:

Whose handprint? Not JYs.

The camera Hicks said was turned up, it is close enough for a tall person to move.

 

[otto]

Didn't this camera pick up JY's movements to and from his room 421?

How to keep door propped open, JY supposedly did this.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/9746298/

Thanks for finding the photos. Is that the camera next to the elevator, or is that another camera?

If that's how the door was propped open, then the person that left the newspaper and the receipt had to be both blind and irresponsible.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Thanks for finding the photos. Is that the camera next to the elevator, or is that another camera?

Hmmm yes hard to tell where the elevator is from this pic, but I assume his room 421 would have been opposite the room 418 unless elevator located there?

If that's how the door was propped open, then the person that left the newspaper and the receipt had to be both blind and irresponsible.

This is how it would have looked from corridor propped open.

 

[MyBelle]

Hmmm yes hard to tell where the elevator is from this pic, but I assume his room 421 would have been opposite the room 418 unless elevator located there?

This is how it would have looked from corridor propped open.

Yes it was impossible for Jason to be on the fourth floor without being seen either in the stairwells or corridor and recorded. Which is pretty much the defense contention from the get go.

 

[MyBelle]

Hmmm yes hard to tell where the elevator is from this pic, but I assume his room 421 would have been opposite the room 418 unless elevator located there?

This is how it would have looked from corridor propped open.

Indeed. Hard to tell what people wanted who had already formed an opinion of guilty.

 

[Landonsmom02]

The appellate opinion refers to him as "Detective Spivey." Pg 13. The media mentions both but I do wonder why he didn't testify in uniform. If he was demoted, the jury should have been informed, imo.

Pg. 13, http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2014/04/01/13529333/April_1_2014_Appeals_Court_Opinion.pdf

Detective Richard Spivey of the Wake County Sheriff’s
Office (“Detective Spivey”) testified


WRAL story:
Sgt. Richard Spivey, of the Wake County Sheriff’s Office and lead detective on the case,

Read more at http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10761325/#OXK3upvtZeM0D3Xu.99

He was actually promoted and not demoted.

 

[Madeleine74]

LM, I hear an echo. ;-)

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[JusticeFever]

What is said during closing is "evidence?"

You are correct, opening and closing arguments have nothing to do with the actual evidence presented in court.

 

[JusticeFever]

Thanks for finding the photos. Is that the camera next to the elevator, or is that another camera?

If that's how the door was propped open, then the person that left the newspaper and the receipt had to be both blind and irresponsible.

How could Keith Hicks not see this and not once but twice....

 

[Madeleine74]

What is said during closing is "evidence?"

That's not why I indicated that BH discussed the camera evidence. If you look a bit upstream from my post, Minor4th said she didn't see anywhere the state went through the camera stuff and I included where she could find such a discussion by the state, which happened to be during their closing, which is the only place the lawyers can discuss and opine. Closing arguments are not ever considered evidence, but it's the state's summary of the evidence, which is what Minor4th was looking for, specifically.

The cameras were discussed during various witnesses testimony (Keith Hicks, Elmer, and that other woman who worked at the Hampton Inn).

 

[Landonsmom02]

I don't think that the Young's were experiencing financial difficulties. Both Michelle and Jason were fully employed and they owned two residences. Michelle drove a Lexus - not a vehicle for a family that is in financial trouble. Their debt load was probably no different than most professional couples with a young family.

Michelle was 16 weeks into a pregnancy, so there were another 24 weeks for Jason and Michelle to sort out Michelle's maternity leave. She was in the process of seeking approval to work from home part time after the birth of her second child, and I believe it was approved. Any plans to cut back on hours at work related to at least 6 months in the future, and most likely after her maternity leave was finished.

Michelle met with her friend to increase the insurance policy, not Jason. That cannot be attributed to Jason.

Jason's refusal to cooperate was that investigators wanted to photograph him and he didn't cooperate with that request.

It's another example of tunnel vision.

Didn't JY have multiple lines of credit open??

 

[Landonsmom02]

Or, maybe the convo went like this, hypothetically, of course..

Jason , what are you plans, where are you going to live? Do you plan on going back to Enchanted Oaks?

Jason......" I could never go back there, the place where my wife was killed. I don't know what I am going to do right now, I guess somewhere down the road I will sell the house, I just can't go back there, ever,
But, I really can't think of things like this right now. I do know the market is down, so I may not get what we put into it",,I will probably take a hit on the house."

But it didn't

 

[Madeleine74]

Incorrect.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/02/23/1878517/sorority-sister-says-michelle.html

RALEIGH — A former sorority sister of Michelle Young testified Thursday that Michelle's husband, Jason Young, pressed to buy $1 million life insurance policies for both of them shortly before her death.

From the witness stand, Fiona Childs said her friend considered the amount excessive. After Young died, Childs said she learned the policy was actually higher - $2 million with a rider stating that the amount be doubled in the case of accidental death.​

2. According to witness testimony during both trial 1 and 2, there were some financial strains occurring. More than 1 witness talked about MY's concerns about the spending of $$$, the added strain of cutting back her work hours, why she didn't want to have to hire help once the baby arrived ($$$) when her own mother was available, etc, etc. Finances and financial strain and pressure was one of the areas of conflict in that marriage.

 

[JusticeFever]

And, that is incorrect. After many search warrants issued for the Young's financial records, they were never able to find that they were in debt or that money was a problem or a motive in MY's death.

Also, Jason opened up some lines of credit of his own after MY's death.....

 

[JusticeFever]

But it didn't

But it may have.

 

[tarheellvr]

I don't think that the Young's were experiencing financial difficulties. Both Michelle and Jason were fully employed and they owned two residences. Michelle drove a Lexus - not a vehicle for a family that is in financial trouble. Their debt load was probably no different than most professional couples with a young family.

Michelle was 16 weeks into a pregnancy, so there were another 24 weeks for Jason and Michelle to sort out Michelle's maternity leave. She was in the process of seeking approval to work from home part time after the birth of her second child, and I believe it was approved. Any plans to cut back on hours at work related to at least 6 months in the future, and most likely after her maternity leave was finished.

Michelle met with her friend to increase the insurance policy, not Jason. That cannot be attributed to Jason.

Jason's refusal to cooperate was that investigators wanted to photograph him and he didn't cooperate with that request.

It's another example of tunnel vision.

Yes, tunnel vision.........JY's refusal to cooperate was NOT because of the photos. It was because he slaughtered his wife and din't want to speak with LE. As has been discussed many, many times he DID NOT speak with, interact with, help or aide, or inquire about his wife's murder.

Michelle thought the iinsurance policy was excessive.....she initiated increase??? again, tunnel vision......

So much has been misconstrued here....it's as if people think if they postr things long enough they will become truth/fact, but they never, ever will.
Yes, I am one who blatantly feels JY slaughtered his wife and unborn son. All the CE, JY's actions and non-actions, the many coincidences, the blood, Cassidy, the missing clothes/shoes, etc, etc, etc.........Like Donnie Harrison said, "We believe JY killed his wife" Like all the detectives in this case and their long diligent hours spent working on this case and their only conclusion, JY killed his wife, and the DA's office who prosecuted this case.
Everything points to one person and one person alone......JLY.

So much is also being made of his appeal....woohoo...he was granted an appeal based on what? ONE thing, let me repeat, ONE thing, admission of civil suit. Gee, what a lot!!! Gee, he must really be innocent!!

Yes, he is innocent just like the sky is purple and black!

 

[Landonsmom02]

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/02/10/4508366/20090210114743620.pdf

In this search warrant is talks about a certifed podiatrist looking at JY feet from the NTO and he states those "blister like irratations were consistant with someone who may have been wearing shoes to small for them."

Now, IMO, this is what I think about the shoes. He left the HI wearing those HP. Changed into the Franklins who purchased with cash. Wore those all the way home committed the crime, in the Franklins and left the print on purpose then when CY woke up he was in a state of oh crap and he mistakenly stepped in her blood wearing those HP. IMO, he did certain things to throw off LEO. He was very methodical, in the words of AF, from the same search warrant.

 

[Landonsmom02]

But it may have.

May have?? :facepalm: Bottom line it didn't. Remember sticking to facts in this case is best.

 

[tarheellvr]

May have?? :facepalm: Bottom line it didn't. Remember sticking to facts in this case is best.

But remember Landonsmom, if we stck to facts, there is only one logical conclusion isn't there? And so many want to avoid, change, or modify these facts because they want JY to be innocent.

 

[JusticeFever]

Here is a fact............A certified podiatrist never testified at either trial though and according to that link, this podiatrist also never personally examined JY's feet .