Jason Young to get new trial #3

[JusticeFever]

Anyone that had just lost a spouse would be under a lot stress and would not be thinking clearly. It sounds like his mind was racing through how his life would change now that he was alone with a young child. Where he would live, and how he would manage, would very definitely be a concern. It sounds like he very quickly realized that he could no longer live in his home. If he had murdered his wife for the insurance money, that would not have been an issue, as he would have been counting on the insurance money to cover the costs.

Exactly, and everything JY did afterwards was scrutinized a million times over, and this is exactly why people should see why you get a lawyer and to shut up !!

 

[JusticeFever]

It's a pretty big risk to take - relying on scotch tape to prevent a door automatically locking. Furthermore, tape might hold for the first five minutes, but over time, and under pressure, it tends to give.

A rock, a twig and scotch tape !! JY was really creative.

 

[otto]

Exactly, and everything JY did afterwards was scrutinized a million times over, and this is exactly why people should see why you get a lawyer and to shut up !!

It reminds me of how things go in a custody dispute. Everything that was a joke, or a dumb thing to do, is twisted into something really terrible and used as grounds to deny custody or visitation of children. In this case, everything that Jason has ever done, or said, is interpretted through a lens that only sees the negative interpretation.

 

[JusticeFever]

Didn't this camera pick up JY's movements to and from his room 421?

How to keep door propped open, JY supposedly did this.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/9746298/

Thanks for this, Prime Suspect, btw! Those doors and the lock can be seen quite clearly.

 

[otto]

A rock, a twig and scotch tape !! JY was really creative.

I did a similar tape experiment recently. I have a pocket door that came off it's track, so it doesn't open properly anymore. I wanted to see what it would take to hold the pocket door firmly in the wall ... as I'm considering framing the pocket door in the wall and installing a French door. I placed 16 pieces of duct tape, securing the edge of the pocket door to the door frame, in an attempt to hold the pocket door in the wall. The following morning, all of the strips of duct tape had given out and the door was again at a slight angle with the base of the pocket door pushing into the doorway.

 

[Tia]

That's just it though, the enitre conversation was mentioned. Who in their right mind thinks about selling a home hours after their wife was murdered???? What reason would LF have to lie about that. At that time they didn't think JY was responsible. Not the first day.

Scott Peterson thought about it and we know where he is.

 

[JusticeFever]

It reminds me of how things go in a custody dispute. Everything that was a joke, or a dumb thing to do, is twisted into something really terrible and used as grounds to deny custody or visitation of children. In this case, everything that Jason has ever done, or said, is interpretted through a lens that only sees the negative interpretation.

I agree, if this case was just based on all the selfish and immature things JY did, including cheating on his wife, then , yes, he is horrible.

But, I would need more that JY killed his wife, the why, the how, a timeline that works, and don't try to slide one by me that he stopped for gas, made a scene with a witness who has brain damage and a video security system that didn't or doesn't work on that particular day.. I am not going to convict someone based on that or a rock or a camera that had been tampered with before.
same camera. same stairwell.same hotel.

 

[Landonsmom02]

So, now JY had a roll of scotch tape, maybe he got it from the front desk when he checked in!

Unless, the doors are the same as the HI , and the locks are the same, it wouldn't work. Those doors are heavy, and a thin piece of scotch tape would not keep the door from completely closing.

Actually these doors here are very heavy. And it did work. The doors here have to be thick for privacy, you know with Hippa and all that.

 

[Nymeria]

I did a similar tape experiment recently. I have a pocket door that came off it's track, so it doesn't open properly anymore. I wanted to see what it would take to hold the pocket door firmly in the wall ... as I'm considering framing the pocket door in the wall and installing a French door. I placed 16 pieces of duct tape, securing the edge of the pocket door to the door frame, in an attempt to hold the pocket door in the wall. The following morning, all of the strips of duct tape had given out and the door was again at a slight angle with the base of the pocket door pushing into the doorway.

No offense , but not really the same thing.
Your tape was holding the weight of the entire door, correct?

The tape over the latch thing is easily done.

On another note, try packing tape, that stuff seems to hold better than duct (IMO and experience).

 

[Landonsmom02]

A rock, a twig and scotch tape !! JY was really creative.

But it could have happened, right?

 

[otto]

Scott Peterson thought about it and we know where he is.

Scott Peterson could afford to keep the house after his wife disappeared, but he approached a realtor about putting the house on the market while his wife was still missing.

Jason's wife had been murdered in their home and he stated that he would no longer be able to keep the house. I would expect that it would be fairly common for the surviving family members to move away after a family member had been murdered in their home.

 

[otto]

Hey ... it's my birthday today! I'm so much older and wiser than yesterday, and I still have doubt about Jason's guilt.

 

[MyBelle]

Michelle was an accountant. Both Michelle and Jason were well educated and fully employed. If they could afford a rental property, and a 2800 square foot home, then they were doing fine financially. They were not experiencing financial problems such that they felt it was necessary to sell their rental property, or downsize from a huge house to a more modest one. Furthermore, any financial changes related to the birth of the baby were more than a year into the future - at which time many decisions could have been made to manage their finances with two children and Michelle working 30 hours/wk (partially working from home). I think it was premature to state that because the family was in the process of balancing their finances for 24 weeks in the future (after the baby was born), that is a motive for murder.

It's not only premature, it is baseless, imo. It would be 30-weeks (7.5 months) because Michelle would be fully-paid for six weeks after the birth of the baby. They didn't live paycheck to paycheck.

Plus, there was testimony that Michelle was already discussing cutting back her hours with her boss. She was planning it because she knew what they could afford to do and planning is what responsible people do.

Jason was in a new job with potential for a fantastic salary + commission. The adaption of new data technologies was exploding in 2006 and still is.

It doesn't surprise me that one of the first things that Jason thought about was not being able to afford the house. His new job required overnight travel and it would be impossible for him to do that and also care for his daughter.

JMO

 

[tarheellvr]

That discussion is upthread.[/QUOTE

Yes it is.....but my point was it is being said here JY's motive was financial. With finances a part of his motive, there were OTHER rreasons why JY would slaughter his wife. Other considerations and reasons some want to downplay, omit, or analyze to the point of craziness.

That was the point I was attempting to make with my comment........

 

[Nymeria]

:bdscroll: OTTO

 

[tarheellvr]

hey ... It's my birthday today! I'm so much older and wiser than yesterday, and i still have doubt about jason's guilt.

happy birthday otto!!!

 

[otto]

That discussion is upthread.[/QUOTE

Yes it is.....but my point was it is being said here JY's motive was financial. With finances a part of his motive, there were OTHER rreasons why JY would slaughter his wife. Other considerations and reasons some want to downplay, omit, or analyze to the point of craziness.

That was the point I was attemoting to make with my comment........

There was no financial motive at the time of the murder. He seemed to be eating his cake and having it too in terms of girlfriends, travel, lifestyle, family, job and so on. Why would he throw all that away? That is, if we eliminate the allegation that finances was a motive, what is the motive?

 

[tarheellvr]

There was no financial motive at the time of the murder. He seemed to be eating his cake and having it too in terms of girlfriends, travel, lifestyle, family, job and so on. Why would he throw all that away? That is, if we eliminate the allegation that finances was a motive, what is the motive?

:banghead: welll for starters, he hated and despised Michelle.......

 

[Tia]

Scott Peterson could afford to keep the house after his wife disappeared, but he approached a realtor about putting the house on the market while his wife was still missing.

Jason's wife had been murdered in their home and he stated that he would no longer be able to keep the house. I would expect that it would be fairly common for the surviving family members to move away after a family member had been murdered in their home.

But the question was who thinks about their house immediately?

 

[MyBelle]

It's a pretty big risk to take - relying on scotch tape to prevent a door automatically locking. Furthermore, tape might hold for the first five minutes, but over time, and under pressure, it tends to give.

Plus, tape or not, he still would have been captured on the security video when he returned.

JMO