Jason Young to get new trial

[MyBelle]

I was just reminded of the fact that Michael Peterson needs to be added to this list of possible new trials.
So, that makes another one for the state of North Carolina to deal with. At the present time, all these convictions have been overturned, which leads to the BIG question of what is next? Will there be a bail hearing scheduled and in what amount? I know in the Young case, he was previously out on bond but returned for his court dates. What a mess in North Carolina.

Indeed it is a mess. I'm not sure they can avoid not granting bail if he was granted bail previously.

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, he did. Here are the results:
http;//www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726547/

Yep, his attorney cooperated fully without protesting the Order.

iirc, the cops seized his vehicle because on cop believed he saw blood inside.

No blood was inside. They were focused on Jason and only Jason from the very beginning.

 

[jova33]

Someone in another thread said MF was investigated. Was she? I haven't been able to find that info.

Edit: I know JY and his girlfriends were investigated, but who else was investigated? The only people investigated were to try and connect JY to the murder.
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[MyBelle]

Someone in another thread said MF was investigated. Was she? I haven't been able to find that info.

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MF's vehicle was seized because it was part of the crime scene but I don't believe they ever interviewed her as a suspect or issued a search warrant of her home or anything like that.

I don't believe anybody was cleared as a suspect. I think they did investigate Michelle Money but I don't know how seriously. Something said by investigators immediately persuaded his friends to believe their only suspect was Jason.

 

[Landonsmom02]

Something doesn't add up in the timeline without excluding the witness statement about the lights being on at 3:30-4AM. That statement came in right after the murder, so it was a fresh memory. The camera was tampered with between 6-7AM. Jason can't be responsible for both. At 7:30 he was on his way from the hotel to his meeting.

If he had an accomplice, then the gas station witness is mistaken.

Thanks Otto for looking up the info about the lights/time. Wouldn't it be possible that the light s were seen on at 3:30am , he left soon after 3:30, was spotted by Gracie at gas station and then made it back to his hotel by 6:45-700 ish, had to time to shower and change and be on his merry way?

 

[Landonsmom02]

Meredith told Jason to go to her house because police were at the crime scene and he couldn't enter the house. He wasn't hiding. He was advised by family friends to not speak with police until after he consulted with a lawyer, and he followed that advice. That is in the appeal decision: http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2014/04/01/13529333/April_1_2014_Appeals_Court_Opinion.pdf

Jason was a suspect, so police would not give him any information. He knew that, and we knew that. I don't see any reason to criticize him when we all know and understand the reason that he did not ask police for investigative updates.

Jason didn't hide at his mother's house. He could not afford the house, and had to sell. There was interference in terms of keeping his job and securing new employment opportunities. He and his daughter stayed with either his sister or his mother after the murder. What should he have done without a job and mounting legal bills?

BBM


IIRC, the police came to Meredith's house that night and tried to talk to him and he wouldn't even tell them no. MF had to go to the bedroom and tell him and he asked her to relay the message to the police.

 

[Landonsmom02]

The interior, exterior, and driveway lights were on between 3:30 and 4AM per a witness.

April 1 2014 Appeals Court Opinion; pg 15

If it was a five hour drive from the house to the hotel, then it couldn't be Jason, unless the gas station and camera movement times are excluded from the timeline.

I have to wonder if the Judge recognized that the timeline didn't work without excluding the witness for the lights, and therefore he included the possibility that Jason did not act alone.

BBM

I think it was 5 hours from Brichleaf to the actual meeting he had but only 2.5-3 hours from Birchleaf to the HI where he was staying.

 

[Landonsmom02]

GRAPHIC CONTENT

I was always under the impression that Michelle was dressed and awake when she was murdered (zip up hoodie), but this photo of the crime scene illustrates all the blood in the bed - with a blank spot where she may have been laying. Did she get up and was trapped by Jason's closet door, or was she actually in bed when she was attacked? Did she get up and was then propelled onto the bed? I was never clear about whether she was working on the computer, or the computer was on the bed beside her. Did we ever learn the time stamps on the last activity on Michelle's computer?

Did Jason phone her close to midnight? Is it a 5 hour drive, or a 2.5 hour drive ... one way?

If Jason left the hotel at midnight, he had to arrive at home at about 2:30-45AM, commit murder, settle his child for 30 minutes, and drive back to the hotel in time ... another 2 3/4 hours ... arrive at the hotel at 6AM, wait for someone to come out of the side door, grab the door, enter, turn the video camera to the ceiling, sprint to the room on the fourth floor unseen by all other cameras, staff, and guests, collect the receipt from the unlocked room, and be on the way to the appointment at 7:30AM.

After the murder, and after the child was awake and wandering through the crime scene, did Jason tell the child to stay on his side of the bed until someone returned. Did he then give her a couple of fruit snacks, and jelly beans in the kitchen, in case she got hungry?

Did she step in her mother's blood because he was in the shower and didn't realize that she was awake?

Sorry if this has already been discussed but I think it was said that she was sleeping and was attacked while in bed. Because of the violent attack she somehow rolled out of bed and her feet or atleast one foot was contourted/stuck under the bed. JY closet was closed during the attack, this is what the blood splatter showed. Whomever killed her had to move her body and open the closet door. IMO, the timeline is doable and he was very lucky he didn't get a speeding ticket. IMO, I think she was awoken during the attack and wittnessed some of it. I think while he was busy changing, staging the scence, CY stepped in her mother's blood. She was then put in the BR until he finished. Then she was cleaned and given the fruit snacks. I know her babydoll was found beside Michelle I can't remember off the top of my head but I think the computer showed she was working from her home computer close to midnight? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[otto]

Thanks Otto for looking up the info about the lights/time. Wouldn't it be possible that the light s were seen on at 3:30am , he left soon after 3:30, was spotted by Gracie at gas station and then made it back to his hotel by 6:45-700 ish, had to time to shower and change and be on his merry way?

The lights were on between 3:30 and 4AM.
The gas purchase was at 5:30.
It's a 45 minute drive from the gas station to the hotel.
The total trip is about 2H45M-3H.

It works if the house lights were turned off at 3:30AM, then the 2 hours to the gas station, he gets gas at 5:30AM, arrives at the hotel at 6:15AM. At 6:35AM, the camera was turned to the ceiling. It's a very tight timeline.

If the lights were turned off at 4AM, that places him at the gas station at 6AM and back at the hotel at 6:45 at the earliest - basically it doesn't work.

 

[JusticeFever]

IIRC, JY wasn't the only person they investigated. A young gentleman who lived in a trailor park behind the Young's were also looked at and eventually cleared.

I never heard of this so I have been searching the archives at WRAL and I have found nothing. Do you know his name or where I can find this article, very interesting,Thanks Landonmom!

 

[otto]

BBM


IIRC, the police came to Meredith's house that night and tried to talk to him and he wouldn't even tell them no. MF had to go to the bedroom and tell him and he asked her to relay the message to the police.

That was after Jason was told that he was a suspect and after he had been advised to remain silent. He had the right to remain silent, and he made the correct decision under the circumstances. I don't think that anyone should be criticized for following the advice of a lawyer.

Police wanted to interview him as soon as possible in order to nail down his story about the events of the night of Nov. 2. Their next step would have been to poke holes in his story. As it was, we had to wait until the second trial to see police attempt to poke holes in his story. They tried to prove that he doesn't smoke the occassional cigar, that he couldn't have reached a twig to prop open the door, that he's a liar.

 

[otto]

I never heard of this so I have been searching the archives at WRAL and I have found nothing. Do you know his name or where I can find this article, very interesting,Thanks Landonmom!

I remember a rumor that police tried to speak to people at the trailer park that is behind the Young property. Given that there were unexplained noises outside the house at night, and Michelle's guest believed that someone was lurking outside the house on the night of the murder, it would be natural to explore whether anyone in the trailer park saw, or heard, something. I don't recall that anyone at the trailer park was considered a suspect.

 

[JusticeFever]

I remember a rumor that police tried to speak to people at the trailer park that is behind the Young property. Given that there were unexplained noises outside the house at night, and Michelle's guest believed that someone was lurking outside the house on the night of the murder, it would be natural to explore whether anyone in the trailer park saw, or heard, something. I don't recall that anyone at the trailer park was considered a suspect.

A lot of this is coming back now, Otto, yes!! Michelle's friend said she felt like they were being watched and I think she even needed Michelle to walk with her to her car. You have a good memory!! I know between this and the Cooper case, there was a lot of conflicting evidence at times. But, Abaroa, I waited years for him to be charged and arrested, only to have him plead to a lesser charge.

 

[Landonsmom02]

I never heard of this so I have been searching the archives at WRAL and I have found nothing. Do you know his name or where I can find this article, very interesting,Thanks Landonmom!

No I don't know his name. Alot of info was on another forum that was started right after MY was killed. That forum no longer exist. I think that's where I got the info. So since I can't provide that link anymore, just ignore that. I know that RPD(name of a poster here) knows all the ins/outs of this. I don't think he has posted here in a while. He would be the correct one to ask all your questions to. Maybe with JY getting a new trial he will come back.

 

[jova33]

Ok, I've just spent hours watching parts of day 12 & 13 of the second trial, and I don't see anyone proving JY lied in his testimony. Just finished day 13 part 4.

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[Sophieandme]

I apologize for my emotions regarding this case. I lived very close to Michelle. I followed this case from day one, obtaining any and all info I could get my hands on.

I just become infuriated at comments, attitudes by those who haven't followed every inch, every tooth and nail of this case. It's all out there.....it's all obtainable.....I just wish those who so strongly defend JY would spend the time gaining knowledge, insight, and most of all FACT.

RIP Michelle......you and Rylan will have peace. I believe this with every fiber of my being!!

I understand tarheellvr. You don't worry, Michelle and Rylan will get justice (again) when he is convicted the second time around.

 

[MyBelle]

A lot of this is coming back now, Otto, yes!! Michelle's friend said she felt like they were being watched and I think she even needed Michelle to walk with her to her car. You have a good memory!! I know between this and the Cooper case, there was a lot of conflicting evidence at times. But, Abaroa, I waited years for him to be charged and arrested, only to have him plead to a lesser charge.

I think it is outrageous that he was allowed to take that plea. There was plenty of real evidence to convict that guy.

 

[MyBelle]

Ok, I've just spent hours watching parts of day 12 & 13 of the second trial, and I don't see anyone proving JY lied in his testimony. Just finished day 13 part 4.

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No proof whatsoever. It truly is a sign of desperation when a prosecutor tries to link the guy's aversion of cigarettes in his home to mean he's lying about smoking a cigar outside a hotel. Utterly ridiculous, imo.

 

[otto]

Here's another question about the prosecution theory: prosecutors want people to believe that Jason used a rock to prop open the side door. That door was always unlocked at 6AM. Jason, per the prosecution, left the hotel at midnight for a 6 hour round trip, placing him back at the hotel between 6-7AM. Why would he need a rock to prop open a door that would not be locked when he returned after 6 hours?

Another thing that has never been properly explained: the receipt was slipped under the hotel room door at 4AM, and the newspaper was hung on the door handle. The prosecution theory requires that Jason's door was unlocked and unsecured when this was done. If it was unsecured, the door should have swung open when anyone touched the door. It's another point that simply doesn't add up.

 

[tarheellvr]

Meredith told Jason to go to her house because police were at the crime scene and he couldn't enter the house. He wasn't hiding. He was advised by family friends to not speak with police until after he consulted with a lawyer, and he followed that advice. That is in the appeal decision: http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2014/04/01/13529333/April_1_2014_Appeals_Court_Opinion.pdf

Jason was a suspect, so police would not give him any information. He knew that, and we knew that. I don't see any reason to criticize him when we all know and understand the reason that he did not ask police for investigative updates.

Jason didn't hide at his mother's house. He could not afford the house, and had to sell. There was interference in terms of keeping his job and securing new employment opportunities. He and his daughter stayed with either his sister or his mother after the murder. What should he have done without a job and mounting legal bills?

But he DID hide in Meredith's bedroom....Le were there, wanting to talk to him....he wouldn't even come out of her bedroom. This is per testimony. In ANY case where a spouse is found murdered do you not think the FIRST person LE wants to speak with is the other spouse?

Jason left Raleigh immediately after Michelle's funeral, taking Cassidy and yes, he was indeed hiding with Mommy! What made him begin to limit visits with the ONLY family Cassidy had related to her Mother? Why were visits supervised for heavens sake????

What was he supposed to do????? An innocent man would have welcomed contact between his daughter and the grandmother and aunt she was used to seeing on a regular basis. Shame on him for this atrocity!!! An innocent man would have spoken to LE as the spouse has more info than anyone else regarding her habits, customs, etc not to mention the house. Yes, he had an attorney....yes that same attorney could have been present when he answered simple questions like MOST spouses would do. This is NORMAL protocol.

JY hoped to cash in on Michelle's million+ insurance....but he didn't.....couldn't. JY found other employment.....Jy attempted Nursing School. OH, and he played basketball...lots of basketball....."You came here for THAT?"

You ARE so right...MANY of us do indeed understand and know why JY stayed away from LE......he knew he was guilty of slaughtering his wife and unborn son!!