Jason Young to get new trial

[MyBelle]

I was in the army, and knew plenty of guys who smoked cigars but hated cigarettes. You don't inhale, or try not to, cigar smoke, so it's a different experience.
And you can use anything to prop those doors open.

It just seems like his fate shouldn't rest on him producing shoes he once owned three years prior to the murder, a timetable that had to be so precise, and some kids messing around with cameras at the hotel.

Sent from your mom's smartphone

Evidently in Wake County it is possible to introduce evidence that was never actually found.

 

[otto]

It doesn't make sense to me because anyone could testify what he told them and even if he said he was not guilty, they could testify about his demeanor and anything else that, to a jury, made him "look" guilty.

I'm still sorta flabbergasted at that piece of it. Since the State is going to appeal the court ruling, there might be an argument about that piece from the defense.

I would hope so. I agree that anything that Jason might have said to a new friend could have easily been twisted into something incriminating. Under the circumstances, the less said, the better. Silence, on the basis of legal advice, should not be interpreted as guilt under any circumstances, as it was not Jason's decision to remain silent, it was his lawyer's recommendation that he remain silent.

 

[MyBelle]

I would hope so. I agree that anything that Jason might have said to a new friend could have easily been twisted into something incriminating. Under the circumstances, the less said, the better. Silence, on the basis of legal advice, should not be interpreted as guilt under any circumstances, as it was not Jason's decision to remain silent, it was his lawyer's recommendation that he remain silent.

It could go all the way to federal court because it is a constitutional right to remain silent as is the right to an attorney. This phrase "Anything you say or do may be used against you in a court of law.
doesn't have exceptions that I'm aware.

I think most Americans' interpretation of "anything" is quite literal. The idea that the fact that you obtain an attorney and follow his advice can be construed as guilt is mind-boggling to me.

 

[otto]

Another point that I thought was unusual was the statement from the Judge that jurors could consider that Jason had an accomplice, but no evidence of an accomplice was presented. It appeared to be a back door reason to find him guilty of hiring someone to murder his wife.

 

[tarheellvr]

I was in the army, and knew plenty of guys who smoked cigars but hated cigarettes. You don't inhale, or try not to, cigar smoke, so it's a different experience.
And you can use anything to prop those doors open.

It just seems like his fate shouldn't rest on him producing shoes he once owned three years prior to the murder, a timetable that had to be so precise, and some kids messing around with cameras at the hotel.

Sent from your mom's smartphone

All of you on JY side should take the time to read/study/analyze EVERYTHING there is to view on this case.......from the very beginning all the way through 2 trials. It will take you some time, a lot of time to do so.

!. JY wasn't just silent....he HID from LE. He NEVER called/inquired about his wife's case.....again, NEVER.
2. He NEVER assisted LE in ANY way.
3. He kept Cassidy from her aunt and grandmother. They were FORCED to file the civil suit....they wanted to be in the life of Michelle's only living child. This is what the civil suit was about.
4. JY GAVE them this child he had so diligently kept from them.....why???? Why would he so easily give up Cassidy after YEARS of trying to keep them from her???? He didn't want to be questioned at trial.......the is no other reasonable, logical, intelligent answer. Rather than answer questions, he just handed her over.
5. ALL the circumstantial evidence.....take the time to study ALL of it. I won't take the time to list it all as there is MUCH of it. Then, put it all together and the pieces fit in a circle....the circle is complete.
6. Read the testimony of witnesses. The hotel manager who testified in ALL his years of working the lights had NEVER been turned around. The door WAS propped open....testimony attests to this fact. Where is the shirt? WHY did the shoe prints match the exact size of the rare orbitals JY owned...again view testimony about the number of shoes made. Read the testimony about the handbag print out. Read the testimony about the calls to Meredith. How did an unknown killer get past a big lab mix dog? Why were there no signs of forced entry? Why was there no robbery? Why was the hose running in the back yard? Why were trash bags left out on the counter? What about Cassidy?.....there is so, so much more. Please take the time to read it all.

JY is guilty, guilty, guilty. If you take the time to read it all, study it all, finally study Michelle's autopsy report. As the testimony showed, OVER KILL....Michelle was killed by someone with hatred/severe rage towards her. This was a personal slaughter, yes slaughter....Michelle was't killed, she was slaughtered.

Look at the video....."You came here for THAT?".......... this video shows you the REAL JY.

JY WILL be found guilty in this 3rd trial...he WILL. There WILL be justice for Michelle and her unborn son.

RIP Michelle....you are forever loved and remembered by so many.

 

[otto]

It's good to see comments from people that have closely followed the details of the case since Nov 2006.

 

[otto]

Another similarity we have between this case, and that of Brad Cooper, is that there was an earnest effort from some people in the community to see the husband arrested and prosecuted for the murder. It seems like the community makes a decision that "the husband did it", and investigators pursue relationships with those in the community rather than investigate the murder independent of community influences.

 

[seattlechiquita]

It's good to see comments from people that have closely followed the details of the case since Nov 2006.

Agreed. Some sleuthers have followed this since Day 1, and they have kept amazing records/notes of every little detail. We are lucky to have them.

 

[MyBelle]

It's good to see comments from people that have closely followed the details of the case since Nov 2006.

I hope the discussion isn't derailed with "details" that are rumor, innuendo and emotional but baseless accusations. Both the Cooper and Young cases had a ton of it.

I don't recall that Jason didn't ask about his wife. I think it is because it was a non-issue. He was told by his parents that his wife was dead. He knew his daughter was safe with her aunt. He was told by friends that police suspected him. He lawyered up. What exactly was he supposed to inquire about and to whom was he to inquire? I can't imagine my own reaction at receiving such news.

 

[otto]

I hope the discussion isn't derailed with "details" that are rumor, innuendo and emotional but baseless accusations. Both the Cooper and Young cases had a ton of it.

I don't recall that Jason didn't ask about his wife. I think it is because it was a non-issue. He was told by his parents that his wife was dead. He knew his daughter was safe with her aunt. He was told by friends that police suspected him. He lawyered up. What exactly was he supposed to inquire about and to whom was he to inquire? I can't imagine my own reaction at receiving such news.

Jason knew that he was a suspect. We know that police don't discuss investigative information with a suspect. If Jason had requested updates on the case, I doubt that he would have received useful, accurate information. He could read the news, like we did, and learn that police were stumped and had no evidence for three years.

 

[otto]

Agreed. Some sleuthers have followed this since Day 1, and they have kept amazing records/notes of every little detail. We are lucky to have them.

I'm at a disadvantage there, as I don't keep notes. My hope that my memory is intact, but I have definitely forgotten some of the details.

One of the first odd facts that bothered me about the case was that all the lights were on at the house in the middle of the night. This information was released within days of the murder, and was mentioned during trial. I still don't understand why Jason would do that, particularly since he could find his way in the dark without needing the lights. It's almost like someone wanted to draw attention to the house on the night of the murder. Who would do that, and why?

 

[Nymeria]

I'm at a disadvantage there, as I don't keep notes. My hope that my memory is intact, but I have definitely forgotten some of the details.

One of the first odd facts that bothered me about the case was that all the lights were on at the house in the middle of the night. This information was released within days of the murder, and was mentioned during trial. I still don't understand why Jason would do that, particularly since he could find his way in the dark without needing the lights. It's almost like someone wanted to draw attention to the house on the night of the murder. Who would do that, and why?

Maybe someone who wanted the body found fast so the toddler was not with it alone for long?
Just spitballin' here...

 

[MyBelle]

Jason knew that he was a suspect. We know that police don't discuss investigative information with a suspect. If Jason had requested updates on the case, I doubt that he would have received useful, accurate information. He could read the news, like we did, and learn that police were stumped and had no evidence for three years.

Very true. I think the public opinion environment has changed in just the last couple of years. People aren't going to leap to the conclusion the husband was guilty without real evidence. There haven't been any trials by media in a long time. We've seen far too many cases of wrongful convictions, coerced confessions, sloppy police work or worse, outright incompetence and outrageous behavior on the part of jurors. Seems to be epidemic. Ok, rant off. LOL

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe someone who wanted the body found fast so the toddler was not with it alone for long?
Just spitballin' here...

the lights being on wouldn't be a reason why someone would assume the toddler was in danger, would it? I don't see neighbors coming a knockin' at my door just because lights are on in the middle of the night.

 

[Nymeria]

the lights being on wouldn't be a reason why someone would assume the toddler was in danger, would it? I don't see neighbors coming a knockin' at my door just because lights are on in the middle of the night.

Well, Otto said "Why would someone want to draw attention to the house on the night of the murder?".

So I responded with a possibility.
Like I said, not familiar with the case.
Maybe the neighbors knew it would be odd for the lights to be burning all night long?
Matter of fact I may not read up on this at all.
A few of you posting seem so positive that he is innocent.
It kind of throws me off, not usual on this site.
Maybe I will wait for the trial and just judge it for myself.

 

[Nymeria]

OR....maybe someone left the lights on so a little one (CY) would not be scared?
Not that spending the night with your deceased mother isn't scary enough...

 

[JusticeFever]

ITA. What I didn't know is that not talking to family and friends per advice from your attorney can be perceived as evidence of guilt . That truly was news to me.

Catching up on some older news articles and this is the case where the sister of the deceased said she knew" where this was going from the time the officers arrived on the scene and started asking questions". This is the case where Jason Young's friends told him he needed to get a lawyer quickly as the police were asking all kinds of questions about him and he had not even returned to North Carolina yet. So, this part I understand. I don't know how cooperative he was in other areas there, but I did find a few things that stood out for me. One was that there was nothing on Jason to prove he was injured in any way, and another was that the daughter was not fearful to be in his presence at any time.
i truly believe had the little girl witnessed anything this brutal she would have shied away from her father upon seeing him again. JMO

 

[borndem]

Just looked that up and yes, there was a male doll. And, she did not choose that one.

IIRC, it was a doctor in scrubs, a mask and dark hair.

 

[tarheellvr]

I hope the discussion isn't derailed with "details" that are rumor, innuendo and emotional but baseless accusations. Both the Cooper and Young cases had a ton of it.

I don't recall that Jason didn't ask about his wife. I think it is because it was a non-issue. He was told by his parents that his wife was dead. He knew his daughter was safe with her aunt. He was told by friends that police suspected him. He lawyered up. What exactly was he supposed to inquire about and to whom was he to inquire? I can't imagine my own reaction at receiving such news.

I recall VERY well and FACT proves this to be true. JY HID at Meredith's house. He NEVER contacted LE about the case....never, not once! I find it extremely odd years would pass and not once did he inquire about his wife's case or murderer. What was he to inquire about??? His dead wife! I can imagine my reaction and the reaction of any innocent person I know.....I/they would want to know what happened, how the case is progressing and the ONLY way to do that is contact LE. A non-issue???? years pass and he NEVER once inquires about the case? Yes, I guess it was a non-issue to JY. He slaughtered her, hid at Mommy's for years, and thought in his warped mind time would pass and this case would grow cold. It didn't though......and it won't!!

I'm not comparing this case to BC...they are two entirely different cases. Yes, there was/is community support for Michelle and the TRUTH. But no, emphatically no was this case compromised in any way...again, read, study, look at the FACTS of this case.

JY slaughtered his wife and unborn son........LE knows he did, those involved with the FACTS of the case know he did, and JY knows he did!

 

[tarheellvr]

I apologize for my emotions regarding this case. I lived very close to Michelle. I followed this case from day one, obtaining any and all info I could get my hands on.

I just become infuriated at comments, attitudes by those who haven't followed every inch, every tooth and nail of this case. It's all out there.....it's all obtainable.....I just wish those who so strongly defend JY would spend the time gaining knowledge, insight, and most of all FACT.

RIP Michelle......you and Rylan will have peace. I believe this with every fiber of my being!!