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  • #501
No one is innocent. TA seemed usually focused on sex and immature about their relationship. But he doesn't come off as a controlling aggressive violent person.
As far as "likes", who knows what Jodi liked. On the sex tape she seems to feign liking pretty much anything he does. She never seems to have been honest about her likes. On the stand we hear her say she wanted to make him happy. She did this or that to make him happy. But it comes down to she wasn't happy doing these things.
The lies and long descriptions she creates ring as self serving exagerrations and tall tales. Her attempt to paint herself as an abused woman is insulting to anyone who has been thru it.
So, yeah, the truth of the story may fall somewhere between TA's side and JA's side but JA is off the scale dangerous. If she hadn't flipped out with him it would have been some other guy or their girlfriend. She is conniving, manipulative and down right evil.

From the behaviors she demonstrated and what his friends witnessed, it's clear that TA wasn't naive. He knew she was obsessed on some level, or at least could see that she was set on having his heart (how could you not know after her gushing on that call). I think the problem was, as demonstrated on the sex tape so loudly, that she just made everything too easy and available for him.

Maybe because of his sexual morality system (guilt for violating it) he felt some sort of responsibility when (if) she started tire slashing. I think maybe he felt a combination of difficultly resisting such easy sexual offers and some guilt for his *perceived* involvement in the creation this situation. Jodi loves to play the guilt game as well, perhaps he was stuck in such a cycle.

Just speculating, MOO
 
  • #502
When do you think he realized she was reading his email? I'm trying to think back to the text messages.... or even if anyone has testified that hinted at it, I just can't. I'm just wondering why, when he had the first clue that she was reading them, he didn't change his password.

Maybe the day after the recorded sex call as someone suggested on yesterday's thread?
 
  • #503
No, the BMW was in the shop June 4th. She had attempted to tow it back to Cali but left it in 1st gear iirc and burned up the motor? I believe this was after her car went back to the bank. Even tho she blew up the car she agreed to still pay TA for it. I still think the check they found in TA's desk from her (which she says was a car payment... and she asked about during questioning with Det Flores) was her excuse for stopping by to see Travis. He had made it clear that he didnt want to see her anymore just a week or two weeks before she went to Mesa. She probably talked him into allowing her to stop by and drop off the check and she used sex against him one last time.

I *still* believe she took something from the house after killing him. The roommates say nothing was missing. I don't believe it. I would bet on it that she took something that either meant something to Travis or a personal belonging. Whether she will ever talk about it or not is another story.. She is VERY sentimental. She didnt leave empty handed. (other than the weapons and bloody clothes)

It wasn't before her car went back to the bank because I just listened to her testify that when she left Mesa, she had her Infinity in tow. This is when Travis flipped her the "double bird"
 
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What? Is this when Jodi was explaining why she died her hair brown from blond? And she referenced Diana's story?

She made Diana's story her own and the date she dyed her hair was right after this blog.
 
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From that last email or text message he sent her on May 10, it sounded like he had caught her hacking his email/facebook/text messages a number of times.

Maybe he did change his password, but I'm sure she had enough info to figure out his new passwords and get back in to his accounts.

yep, that's the only time I can think of too, but sure seemed like he knew beforehand. I just think he could come up with a password that she couldn't figure out.
I do know that some email accounts will also lock up if you try them too many times with a wrong password. Not sure what he was using and I can't remember if they did this back in 2007-2008.
Just a few things that have made me wonder is all :)

Thanks minor, I know you are great with remembering the dates. And I feel dumber and dumber the longer I listen to Jodi testilie :)
 
  • #508
Here is another case JM prosecuted. The first 3 or so minutes is a clip of the jurors and it reminded me that our jurors don't have all the info we have (i forget that sometimes). However, I liked that one lady said she had a hard time deliberating bc she "only saw a tiny bit of who he [the defendant] was". Thankfully JA has run her mouth for 6+ days already so the jury should know her REAL well by now. I'm hoping that works in TA's favor!! Any thoughts??

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31005549/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/#.URyD_6WEEc8

ETA: You have to go to Part 12 (scroll on the right side of the video)
 
  • #509
She made Diana's story her own and the date she dyed her hair was right after this blog.

She said today she died it before she left Mesa, and after looking at her text messages, she said March 20th IIRC. So it was before the blog was written.


ETA: meant dyed LOL not died... see what JA is doing to me. Losing brain cells by the minute over here.
 
  • #510
YOU ALL NEED TO GO TO THE BLOGSITE ABOVE AND KEEP SCROLLING DOWN!!! OMG. LOOK!!! Scroll down past the September blog to April

Wow, that really makes you wonder - hair color, cookies, and how many other things did JA copy from Travis' female friends/girlfriends? Creepy! OMG!
 
  • #511
http://thekatiedid.blogspot.com/sea...-max=2009-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

Katies blog June 10, 2008

So many cookie nights at your house where you spent hours baking and we only ate a 1/6 of what you had made. Whatever did you do with all of those cookies?

Didn't we hear JA talk about cookies today???

We sure did. She used a commercial recipe and made too many. These stories belong to others and she makes them hers. Do yo think the guy lying in the bathtub might have given her the idea???
 
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No, the BMW was in the shop June 4th. She had attempted to tow it back to Cali but left it in 1st gear iirc and burned up the motor? I believe this was after her car went back to the bank. Even tho she blew up the car she agreed to still pay TA for it. I still think the check they found in TA's desk from her (which she says was a car payment... and she asked about during questioning with Det Flores) was her excuse for stopping by to see Travis. He had made it clear that he didnt want to see her anymore just a week or two weeks before she went to Mesa. She probably talked him into allowing her to stop by and drop off the check and she used sex against him one last time.

I *still* believe she took something from the house after killing him. The roommates say nothing was missing. I don't believe it. I would bet on it that she took something that either meant something to Travis or a personal belonging. Whether she will ever talk about it or not is another story.. She is VERY sentimental. She didnt leave empty handed. (other than the weapons and bloody clothes)

I was thinking the same thing too and I wonder if Travis had money stashed somewhere in his room and that's how she was able to pay back the guy who borrowed it to her for the trip there. Also if I were Travis, I would have told her to send the check in the mail. idk, maybe he did.
 
  • #513
We sure did. She used a commercial recipe and made too many. These stories belong to others and she makes them hers. Do yo think the guy lying in the bathtub might have given her the idea???

She is one scary women I know that, nothing would surprise me.
 
  • #514
She said today she died it before she left Mesa, and after looking at her text messages, she said March 20th IIRC. So it was before the blog was written.

I don't believe her text. Too coincidental that the blonde to brown story matched Diana's. I will have to look tomorrow at the testimony. I bet it was really in April. IMO, she does not have much original thought
 
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Correct, but then she ended up spending another night or two at Travis' before she left for Yreka. When she drove off in the Uhaul from Mesa -- she then had her own Infinity that she was towing behind the Uhaul.

Which is strange because she said her car had been repoed and that is why she had the BMW.
 
  • #517
Listen to the beginning of this video -- they are talking about her leaving Mesa, moving to Yreka, and this is after the BMW incident. She ends up taking her Infinity with her, towing it behind the Uhaul. So WTH was she going to do with the Infinity on her first attempt out of town when she had the BMW in tow?

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 18 - Part 1 - YouTube

Originally, the story was her Infinity was repo'd so Travis sold her his BMW. She then stated she left the BMW in gear (accidently??) and when she started towing it in gear it was ruined (rear end/transmission??).
Today I hear the story about her towing the Infinity to California. It came as a surprise to me because I thought it had already been repossessed.

HTH
 
  • #518
:moo: :cow: :moo: :cow: :moo: :cow: :moo: :cow:

Jodi disgusts me more now than she did before. It was a senseless killing of a young man in the prime of his life. There wasn't anything Travis did to cause his own death, IMO.

The idea to kill him because she was disappointed in their "dating" is preposterous, but that's what I'm hearing as some kind of lame excuse. She controlled where the relationship went. I don't believe for one minute she didn't have a hidden agenda all along.

Travis wasn't a pedophile, no way did I hear or see anything to support that. Travis wasn't isolating Jodi to control and abuse her; if anything Travis was too indifferent towards Jodi. She really was a stalker long before she met Travis.

Jodi could have stayed in Yreka, not made the secret trip to AZ to kill Travis. Each individual has free will and choices. Give her a make up brush, she doesn't think suicide, she thinks revenge. Being in power and control, not love, is what Jodi wanted. Jodi is like every other psychopath in that they will turn the tables to make the victim look like the crazy/bad/wrong one. She killed Travis, in a very cruel devious way, and she should get the harshest sentence.

This is just My Own Opinion and Cows.
 
  • #519
Someone was asking for a link to testimony regarding an objection and voir dire by Juan Martinez re: the email ja said she sent to Abe.
Here's the link:
[video=youtube;X_ki_SjxpbE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ki_SjxpbE[/video]

Starts at 49:00
 
  • #520
http://youtu.be/iHisZ8ZtWr0


Just because I love Elvis and thankful that I had the common sense to walk from a toxic relationship!

Dig it ladies! :rocker:
 
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