jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #64 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[shelley921]

Watching Dateline. It is really amazing how much Jodi has aged since she's been in jail.

I know. When first in jail she had the fresh faced look of youth. Now not so much. GOOD.

 

[KathrynL]

I am doing a crude layout based on photos... the path it took. Shower, to sink, down that hall with recessed lighting where that other photo was taken. Before the hallway photo was taken, there was the one where he is down and you see his shoulder. He may have fallen on his back from the sink and she stabbed him in the chest and hands as he tried to hold them up. Then she follows him only down this hallway, at the end of the Hall, the tile meets his bedroom carpet and he did not get any farther. That walk-in closet is the length of the hall. (there is a little linen closet in his bathroom you see next to the sink I think that is where he showed the box of paper on the floor with the horrible water stains absorbed into the box and they are red from blood. But there was no blood anywhere else.. He did not get far.

Thank you so much for that layout. I have had such a difficult time visualizing the layout for some reason, and how to picture what happened and what the creature claims. Your picture cleared it up. You rock!

 

[LizardQueen74]

This is a crime scene pic, and I didn't see any other crime scene pics with a full view of the camera.

ETA: It is definitely strange camera behavior and has puzzled me since the beginning.

ETA again: I don't think DSLR's usually come with a wrist strap.

I own a DSLR, although not the same one as Travis. I don't believe I ever saw one with a wrist strap while I was shopping around.

 

[minor4th]

Shanna Hogan on Anderson Cooper saying Jodi stole Travis' journals.

 

[lauraoh]

I'm worried about the jury! Since the Anthony case! I pray this jury is with it. I think the difference was that the Anthony jury was sequestered! The foreman had a cruise scheduled for the next day! I think they just wanted to go home period. Judge perry spent to much time trying to appease them with movies! Different resteraunt s! They forgot what they were there for. I swore I'd never follow another trial and here I am.

Another difference is that JA has lied directly to the jury. Over and over and over again.

 

[Lulu67]

Hi everyone, I know I'm late with this, but yesterday it was being discussed about how JA was laughing behind her hands during her testimony and someone was going to post a picture (I was waiting, but left the thread and then couldn't find it again). Can someone point me to the thread with the photo in it, if it was uploaded?

TIA!!!

 

[moonbird]

Sorry I couldn't find the link. Had to send a screen shot

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...-over-after-hearing-murder-suspects-testimony

 

[kscornfed]

Fortunately, Curious, I have grown children and my youngest son heard what happened and knew I would have to drive 500 miles for the funeral. He took leave from his job, came out and picked me up. Said he didn't want me driving alone.

That was so kind of him I have never forgotten it. My eyes were so swollen my eyelashes kept hitting my sunglasses. All my children (8) came and were there for me, as well as my exhusband, so I didn't have to put him in the ground with no support at all.

I forgave my mother and aunt in time but that's something you never forget. I honestly don't know what I would have done if any of his "friends" showed up that were responsible for his needless death. I can't imagine how his family must have felt this creature shows up for his memorial.

I don't know if you write, but IMO, you should.

 

[KBisMe]

Shanna Hogan on Anderson Cooper saying Jodi stole Travis' journals.

That doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure they told the REAL story about their relationship. Did she say when that happened?

 

[minor4th]

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...-over-after-hearing-murder-suspects-testimony

Moonbird, is that a picture of Travis in your av?

 

[Pink Panther]

The jury getting to asks questions is a big plus IMO. The only thing I worry about is the jury instructions, they sometimes can confuse a jury into thinking they have limited rights. The big difference between the Anthony case and the Arias case is they have a Cause of death and evidence of her being at the scene of the crime. Arias actually admitted to committing the crime. They just have to come to the conclusion if it was premeditated felony murder or intentional murder. The difference between first degree and second degree.

Did the judge instruct them accordingly? Their lame azzed question regarding the room mates ( fingerprints) would indicate that they either didn't understand their charge or that they were completely stooped. Xcuse me, but I've been here before following KC. Trials have become part of "reality tv" so someone should announce " She's admitted it, SHES SAID THAT SHE KILLED HIM, BUT SHE"S CLAIMING SHE DID IT IN SELF-DEFENCE"! Why on earth would they be asking about the room-mate's finger prints?

moo

 

[minor4th]

That doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure they told the REAL story about their relationship. Did she say when that happened?

No, and I thought somehow Sky Hughes ended up with Travis' journals because at some pre-trial hearing she was ordered to turn them over.

 

[paperwing]

O-T, but Anderson is my favorite journalist! Thanks for reminding me it's starting.....:blushing:

11 minutes in and I haven't seen hide nor hair of AC... :furious:

 

[megmono]

This guy says he's not sure who did it but after hearing her testimony, he thinks she did it. Umm. Has he taken the time to understand that she's already said that she did it?

moo

i think thats why he goes on to say she talked herself into the dp. phrasing here.

 

[G&AMom]

Fortunately, Curious, I have grown children and my youngest son heard what happened and knew I would have to drive 500 miles for the funeral. He took leave from his job, came out and picked me up. Said he didn't want me driving alone.

That was so kind of him I have never forgotten it. My eyes were so swollen my eyelashes kept hitting my sunglasses. All my children (8) came and were there for me, as well as my exhusband, so I didn't have to put him in the ground with no support at all.

I forgave my mother and aunt in time but that's something you never forget. I honestly don't know what I would have done if any of his "friends" showed up that were responsible for his needless death. I can't imagine how his family must have felt this creature shows up for his memorial.

When my husband died, my mother got so wound up that I finally told her not to come to the funeral. She would just have made it more difficult for me. Of course, she'd always been like this, so it was not really a surprise. And this was not my child, which is such a totally different experience, I'm embarrassed to compare them.

Because my husband died fairly young, a lot of people behaved strangely, my family, his family, our friends. Death brings out the worst in people.

Sending you a lot of cyber (((((hugs)))))

 

[minor4th]

11 minutes in and I haven't seen hide nor hair of AC... :furious:

Right? Where is he and who is this female narrator?

 

[Melly53]

Ok, i wondered about what side in the closet.. So he would not even have to walk, just reach and grab her

She claims that she ran down the hallway then turned right into the closet and slammed the door with TA chasing her the whole way. She claims that she ran to the far end of the closet and got the gun just as TA was opening the door she had slammed which would have been the door to the closet from the bedroom. She then ran back into the bathroom with TA still chasing her and once again instead of turning right and running down the hallway to the stairs and freedom, she ran further into the bathroom before turning and shooting him. By running farther back into the bathroom she would have had both exits, via the hallway or the closet, blocked by TA.

If she was truly afraid of being physically hurt and with TA chasing her, she would have chosen the stairs rather than to run into the closet (gun or no gun) which leads back into the bathroom. In doing what she did by running back into the closet she was leaving herself open to being cornered and trapped. Even with a gun, which she says she had never used before or was familiar with (she was afraid of guns according to her testimony) I've had to make those split second decisions before because my ex was very violent and physically abusive and I did run from him more than once. It is human nature to choose flight over fight especially when someone is bigger, and stronger than you and is angry. If she had run down the stairs and out of the house, it is highly unlikely that a wet and naked TA would have followed her regardless of how angry he was).

 

[kscornfed]

Another difference is that JA has lied directly to the jury. Over and over and over again.

The contrast between direct and cross is stark when it comes to the sex. With nurmi, she can barely talk about it. She was embarrassed, etc.

JM gets hold of her, she was into it all the way. She didn't even deny it.

 

[atthelake]

But during cross, JM got Jodi to admit that she injured her finger from the murder on June 4, 2008. It was a big win.

In case y'all wanna read it (Thanks to Ingra1327 who transcribed this), below or skim to next post! HTH

M: That's immediately, the shot takes him down and then creates a fog for you, is that what you're saying?
A: It begins creating a fog.
M: But you weren't struck by the shot, were you?
A: no
M: In fact, you don't have really injuries as a result of killing him do you, other than the one to your left ring finger, do you?
A: That's the only visible injury
M: Pardon
A: That's the only visible injury
M: I'm talking about visible injuries, right that's the only visible injury you have to your left ring finger, even though according to you he slammed you down, right when he got out of the shower and then he slammed you down again when he was coming at you and you had to pull the gun, according to you, right?
A: yes
M: And he's also grabbing at you while you're on the ground and he's not being gentle about it right?
A: That's correct
M: no bruising no anything, other than just the thing the injury to the left ring-finger, right?
A: I don't know if my skull was bruised
M: Pardon
A: I don't know if my skull was bruised
M: Aside from that , but uh, did you get medical care for that?
A: no
M: Did you seek medical care for your finger?
A: No I did not,not professional
M: well you do have an injury to that left ring-finger don't you?
A: yes
M: And so when you arrive out in West Jordan Utah and you see Mr. Burns, you do have an injury to your left finger, correct?
A: We're talking about two different injuries. No
M: Well ma'am you just told me when we were talking about this killing that you injured your left ring-finger, do you remember just telling me now, just no, no more than two minutes ago.
A: Yes I was referring to this injury (holds up left hand)
M: Ma'am were we really talking about this particular injury at that time?
A: I didn't know
M: Oh , you don't know we were talking about the killing at that time?
A: you talked about injury to my left finger.
M: Ma'am what have we been talking about this whole afternoon?
N: Objection, argumentative
J: Overruled
A: June 4th
M: Pardon
A: June 4th
M: Right, we haven't mentioned any other day , right?
A: Not to my recollection.
M: You've been here throughout these proceedings and you've been asking, or you've been answering questions, right?
A: Yes
M: And as we were talking about it just now, I asked you isn't it true that the only injury as a result of this incident was this injury to the left ring-finger and you said yes, do you remember saying that?
A: I might have, but that's not what I meant
M: well ma'am you did say it didn't you
A: I don't know
M: And in fact, I followed it up by saying and you didn't seek medical care, do you remember me asking that?
A: I thought you meant about my skull
M: No, do you remember me asking you that
A: Yes
M: And do you remember you said well, not professional medical care, do you remember that?
A: I'm referring to the splint Travis made for me.
M: I know that that's what you're telling me now, but the line of questioning before involved the shooting, that's what we were talking about, right?
A: Yes, but then you went to my left finger
M: Mr. Alexander was dead after that, wasn't he?
A: Not immediately after that,
M: No, he grabbed the knife that you stabbed him with, didn't he, so he wasn't dead immediately after that, right?
N: Objection, calls for speculation she said she doesn't remember
J: Restate the question
M: And we're talking about Mr. Alexander an individual you just shot, right? So it's not like we're talking about him providing any medical care for you, are we?
A: that's right
M: You're the person that's come in here at least we know that you've indicated that you did kill Mr. Alexander , correct?
A: Yes
M: the only incident where this could have happened was on June 4th, 2008, right?
A: Yes
M: So this issue of him providing a splint or splinting your finger really doesn't have anything to do with June 4th of 2008, does it?
A: No
M: And you did say that the only injury you received was to your left ring-finger on June 4, 2008, remember that?
A: I didn't say that
M: well, yes you did and in fact you used the word physical injuries do you remember that/
N: Objection, argumentative, she said she didn't say that
J: Sustained
M: And you also indicated well I may have had some injuries to my head, do you remember that?
A: yes
M: Those were the only injuries that you sustained on June 4, 2008, remember I asked you about that and you said yes
A: that's not how I understood your question
M: so then he's down ma'am and he's to your right What happens now?
A: I break away from him and he screams out “****ing kill you *****”

 

[snowcat]

That's the picture that shows that she cut his throat at the front of the hallway and then drug him down to the bathroom.

At least that's the way it appears to me. His arms are being raised above his head and the long blood streak is going down his back. I can't decide if he has been stabbed on his back yet or not, but I think he has which is why it goes from the long streak to covering his entire back area.

Anyone else see it that way?

I think you solved it, THX!