jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #64 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #661
Is there video (or does anyone know where to find it on the complete recordings of the day) where JA smirked after 'crying' into her hands? A few people mentioned it on the 'inside observers' thread.
 
  • #662
Vinnie Politan, Mike Brooks and a wrestler are having a great time trying to reenact JA's version of events with the linebacker issue with the gun. Could not happen. So good!

I thought it was great! Btw....that wrestler guy is also Harvard lawyer--not to mention hes easy on the eyes:blushing:
 
  • #663
Not a lawyer but I beleive that 1st Degree Murder is based on premeditation, and 2nd doesn't carry the DP, so I'd say yes.


I believe felony murder (also on the table) carries the same sentence, so the jurors have two ways to get there.
And the WILL get there,
 
  • #664
Now that is an interesting thought. This would make sense because she clearly had preparation and ideas in mind foe sex. I still do not understand why Travis took a picture of her naked bum close up unless to show off her great waxing job. Really weird.

I don't believe he did. I believe she did it herself with the timer.
 
  • #665
haven't seen the end yet - since it's aired 2 hours later here in AZ... I'll brace myself.

They haven't mentioned it yet - unless they did before I turned to it. Ugh.

At the very end if the show Jean C. thanks all of the behind the scenes people and then they show all of their names and photos etc.
 
  • #666
You don't see the blood pattern in the left row of images matching those in the right hand row of images? They are exactly the same - except there is more blood, it appears in the darker row (makes sense since it was taken after the one on the right).

I don't see how it can be anything but Travis' bare back in either of these photos. A white sheet would be visible and bright, with folds/draping and would likely appear light blue given the lighting in that photo. I don't see anything like that in either photo anywhere!

Amazing how we can see such different things looking at the exact same image - and we're both sure! Hahahhah! :) I was hoping my little set of photos would clear things up... guess not! :)

I'll try to do a better job next time - higher res images to work with would make a difference. Or more caffeine before I start. :great:

I do think it's possible that it's his back and not a sheet. But I see a bright white portion up in the very top left corner. And the shape of it doesn't look like a body but some sort of fabric. The more I look at it, the more I think it's possible it's just his back. But then part of me insists it's a sheet. :)

There is a chance I'm wrong, but I've only been wrong once - when I thought I was wrong but I wasn't.

:D
 
  • #667
Quick question since I have forgotten since Jodi has been on the stand for almost 3 weeks now. Is it redirect, rebuttal, and than jury questions?

This might take all next week! Though I can't wait for rebuttal, I for sure can't wait for the jury questions. Oh, I hope there are some!

The juror questions will be asked when Nurmi is done with re-direct.
Then on to the other DT witness, each of which Juan will get to cross, then after all DT witness are done, Juan's rebuttal, then the guilty verdict!!
 
  • #668
They do get recross you just rarely see it...BK also said this. ETA they could actually go back and forth a couple times if new things are brought out.

You are correct. This is what happened a couple of times in the CA case with a couple of witnesses.


eta - I've seen a few posts since I posted the above saying this isn't the case in AZ, so I guess who knows.
 
  • #669
At the very end if the show Jean C. thanks all of the behind the scenes people and then they show all of their names and photos etc.

That makes me want to cry. :(
 
  • #670
Is Premeditation the only verdict that can get her DP. Or can the degree of violence get her the same verdict. I am trying to figure out if it makes a difference which came first gun shot or stabbings. jmo

JA will be eligible for the DP if she is convicted of murder in the first degree. Murder 1 comes from either premeditation, or aggravating circumstances like torture, or by a death which results from the commission of a felony, like burglary which is what the state is arguing. (The argument being that she became a "burglar" when she started stabbing him.)

I think M1 was satisfied in all 3 ways, but let's see what the jury has to say.
 
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At the very end if the show Jean C. thanks all of the behind the scenes people and then they show all of their names and photos etc.

Also clips of some of the trials they have covered.
 
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The camera was brand new and the strap was found in the box.

After hearing about the remote I have to wonder if that was in her pocket and that's why the camera was snapping.

So did she drag him with the rope? And did she pour water on the tiles to make the floor wet so he was easier to drag?

Interesting about the camera remote. The thing is when she saw the images the camera took during the murder they would have been nearly completely black, the ones we can see (and they're bad quality) have been enhanced to make anything visible. If she used the remote to try and capture the crime, when she reviewed the pics she would have thought she hadn't achieved that.
 
  • #675
HLN soo good right now. They said in order for bullet casing to be where it is (on top of blood) means stabbing had to come first because shell casing has no blood on it. It is on top of blood.
 
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Correct but I learned today that JM can bring her up again on rebuttal.

I don't think that's true.
Can't remember where I read it - sorry.
 
  • #678
OT: Does anyone remember if the jury was instructed to consider lesser charges in the FCA trial? IIRC, it was a DP case. Was that the only option? TIA

FGS, they didn't even convict her with the neglecting a child charge as they said that they couldn't agree that Casey was the one responsible for her! :furious: :furious:
 
  • #679
I do think it's possible that it's his back and not a sheet. But I see a bright white portion up in the very top left corner. And the shape of it doesn't look like a body but some sort of fabric. The more I look at it, the more I think it's possible it's just his back. But then part of me insists it's a sheet. :)

There is a chance I'm wrong, but I've only been wrong once - when I thought I was wrong but I wasn't.

:D

LOL!! Not sure if this will help since I surely don't want to be the first person to prove you are wrong! :floorlaugh:

But I think what you are seeing, as has been pointed out to me during one of my questions, is the reflection of the light from the overhead projector.

These pics are from actual court footage, not released as actual photos like we are used to seeing on the internet. Does that make sense?

I had a hard time with these photos until I saw the enhanced lightened one with the sock, and was able to trace the same blood patterns and see where his body was in relation that way.
 
  • #680
And if she stabbed him first that's felony murder. Cruel and heinous. DP murder.
 
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