jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #65 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #821
Well that all depends on whether he was a part of her cover up somehow. We will see. She called five people after the murder. Travis, Leslie, Matt, Darryl and Ryan. We know Ryan and Leslie were not part of the cover up, well don't think so. She said she could not reach Darryl but she lies. Travis was dead and she left him a voice mail to cover her tracks, or she thought. That leaves DB and MM in question. IMO. And possible GS. Stupid men!!!

Even in her voicemail to him she invites him to a play after he's back from his "upcoming travels".
She mentions Cancun in her post mortem email to him. She was very focused on his travel schedule.
 
  • #822
I from Rotan, TX.....cattle and cotton. Tumbleweeds and sandstorms. Have about 1,200 acres of cotton farms and 1,300 acres of cattle/horse ranch.
Also have a beach house in the Galveston area. Visiting our son in Houston now for some fishing, BBQ cook off and Rodeo.

Mmmmm. Mmmmmmmm. Texas BBQ! I miss it!
 
  • #823
If she pulled a gun on him and it wasn't in self defense it would still be murder of some sort depending on the circumstances. She also has to explain all the stabbing and saying that a single gun shot didn't put him down and that she lost the gun in the struggle explains the use of two weapons in SD.
I agree that she murdered Travis and I think it was premeditated, but it seems to me that she would have looked more sympathetic if she had left the self defense out of it and just claimed it was an accidental shooting. Maybe she should have said they were role-playing and "I didn't know the gun was loaded and I'm so sorry, my friend". She could have stuck with the "fog" regarding the stabbing. My mind is working overtime.....sorry!
 
  • #824
Is it just me or has JA seemed to age about 5 years just in the course of this trial? I am in the camp of people who thought she was quite attractive (sorry) but now to me she is at best plain and at worst , well, herself.

The only day I saw a glimmer of her old "bombshell" self come out was the first day of cross examination and it appeared, to me she had more makeup on, her eyebrows were different, her hair was different and a little sexier and I think it was all for Juan Martinez' benefit in some kind of Jodi-style seduction attempt.

Yes getting ugly as she ages.

I am praying the jurors all snap and realize the knife wounds came first so they will convict her of felony murder. There has been so much discussion here about the knife or the gun and which came first. I don't want those arguments in the jury room.
 
  • #825
I am praying the jurors all snap and realize the knife wounds came first so they will convict her of felony murder. There has been so much discussion here about the knife or the gun and which came first. I don't want those arguments in the jury room.

I guess I am confused. She can't be convicted of felony murder if the gunshot was first? If not, why is that?
 
  • #826
Hi everyone,

This is my first post, so apologies in advance if this has been discussed already. But I believe Jodi had a more nefarious reason to buy the Neutrogena sunblock than hoping Travis would take her to Cancun.......

The Neutrogena UltraMist sunblock Jodi purchased was in a highly flammable aerosol can, not a tube. It has since been discontinued.....

The product was labeled Flammable.
.....

BBM and snipped respectfully

OMG - I didn't realize it was the spray kind, I thought it was the lotion kind....She used it as mace, to disable him when she attacked!!!!!( did we talk about this already when somebody compared the product skews?? )
 
  • #827
Well according to her she just wiped up in the bath across from the office after
anal sex. No mention of a shower before she got to Ryan's.
Icky icky icky?? Right?

EEEEWWWWW! Poor Ryan!
 
  • #828
So this is what Jodi looks like when she has been crying.

Would love a techie to post a side by side of this pic with the look she had on Thursday when she was supposedly crying.


She did have the same crossed arms.
She looks like she hates it when she cries, so she gets mad about it.
 
  • #829
I don't quite know where else to put this so putting it here.

I purchased two "Thank You" cards for Beth Karas yesterday. One from me and one from the WSers to give her on Monday.

I do think it's her last day working for In Session...I'm not sure what happens with her after that w/ this trial but I'll find out. Not even sure if she knew last Thursday.

I'm also driving to Sedona for the weekend and going to find her a beautiful necklace that represents AZ. Turquoise probably. She wears alot of necklaces so I'll find something that seems in her style. I will post a photo of it here after I get it.


If you guys want me to either make this a WS thank you gift or want me to pick up something else just let me know. I 'm ok going either way with it...I just need to have something special in my hand to give her on Monday. 19 years and the end of an era.

The card I got her for the WS community says this:

"The kindest hearts
expect no reward
and deserve
it all the more"

Inside:
"You give so much of yourself
in the kindness you show
and the lives you touch.
That's why you deserve a heartfelt "thank you"
and a wish that all the goodness you share
comes back to you"

Any ideas on how to sign this appreciated. I will just figure it out but want to capture the right sentiment.

Sigh....I'm in denial but I'm just so sad about this. I believe she will be snapped up somewhere but...dayum...

Is it ok for you to send me a pm and I could help on cost for card and gift? Think before answering because I don't want that stalker dude looking for you! Wish we could send it to you at courthouse. Oh yeah, the mail clerk there would love me for this!
 
  • #830
Respectfully disagree. I think he has potentially great (albeit maybe at the time unknowingly) involvement.

:moo:

ETA: Re-reading what you wrote, and perhaps you meant complicity?

I honestly don't think DB has any involment what so ever. The Defense called him, BUT he proved to be a much better witness for the State. e.g. gas cans, REMOTE
 
  • #831
OH i forgot the gun went off on its own when the camera was walking into the closet to see the knife that rolled 22' from the backpack to the bench. Crap, all these weapons walking around!

:floorlaugh:
 
  • #832
This is suppossed to be from a quote from Allyne Smithe regarding why so many gas cans

The reason for the 3 gas cans is it took 12 gallons of gas to fill up her car. The ones she got from DB's were 2 5 gallon cans. JM shows she had 3 receipts from same gas station. one for car, then one for 10 gallons (2 5 gallons cans) then 1 receipt for 2 gallons. = 12 gallons/ car fill up

Geez, this chick did the math about her route from Pasadena to Mesa to Nevada to calculate the amount of gas she would need. Then she got enough gas cans to hold that quantity. And maybe she didn't want the "red car" because its MPG were too high for her plan. Although probably, she determined the MPG upon renting the car, thus borrowing 2 cans from DB and then having to buy a 3rd.

Premeditation much?
 
  • #833
You know, I've wondered if the "reason" for her killing Travis on that day and at that time was because, in her twisted mind, she couldn't move on to the new relationship as long as he was alive. She was literally on her way to see her new man. It was her last goodbye -- sex, and then death. We'll never know.

Ding-ding-ding! I think you might be onto something! She emphasized during the trial that she was "monogamous", so her deviant sense of morality prevented her from moving on to sexy-time with other men as long as TA was still drawing breath.
 
  • #834
Geez, this chick did the math about her route from Pasadena to Mesa to Nevada to calculate the amount of gas she would need. Then she got enough gas cans to hold that quantity. And maybe she didn't want the "red car" because its MPG were too high for her plan. Although probably, she determined the MPG upon renting the car, thus borrowing 2 cans from DB and then having to buy a 3rd.

Premeditation much?

imo, very much!
 
  • #835
Originally Posted by SusieD
Looking at the collage picture I am struck by the timing at the end.

The last face shot, the one with "the look" was taken with the shower door closed, that's obvious in higher resolution pics. It was taken at 5:29:20. His posture indicates he is sitting in the shower, he is totally against the wall.

The next one was taken with the door open, the shower threshold is clear.
"There is no blood. IMO this is when she is going in for the kill. It was taken at 5:30:30 a full minute and 10 seconds after the face shot.

What the heck went on in that minute? That's an eternity in this situation.

Then the ceiling shot is only 45 seconds later. All hell must have broken loose.

It's only one minute later that the dragging picture is taken. IMO she had already cut his throat. All that stabbing and dragging, the coughing at the sink, happened in a minute.

It was a longer time between the face and sitting shots. Again, what went on then?

It's scary."


I think the Dateline show suggests the type of conversation that took place, so here's my guess:

We learn from the show that Travis had already been to the bishop to "set his life back on the right track." I suspect that he was counseled/warned but no action had been taken, meaning he had not been disfellowshipped or excommunicated. Now he has failed again to control himself because his succubus showed up. He is very disappointed in himself. You can see the disappointment and sadness in his face in the shower. This is not a man who is cheerfully posing for sexplay photos or even "one last time tastefully to remember you by" muscle shots. I am guessing he is running out of patience because he has repeatedly asked her to leave before his roommates get home...reminding her yet again that she is just his dirty little secret.

She asks for a couple of sitting shots and promises to be on her way. She take a couple of shots without the flash, crouching beside him. They are talking. He tells her he has been to the bishop after she left. He promised the bishop he would stay away from her. He tells her that the next level of discipline would be for the church to take action against his membership and he is unwilling to lose the thing that means the most to him in the world for her... and he gets stern. She is dressed, removed her luggage, and here she is back again when he specifically asked her to LEAVE. He tells her she has no respect for the wishes of others. He has violated his privacy again and again, he knows she is stalking him, slashed his tires, and he has never reported it to the police or the bishop, but now he is drawing the line. He tells her that if she contacts him again, he will report to the police the money she stole from his bank account. Get the hell out, he says, and I never want to see you again. She stands and (closes the door or not) and takes a last picture with the camera at waist level. He has a wtf look of fear on his face

because that's when he first sees the gun in her right hand. FLASH! She shoots him right in the face.

(two weeks ago a WS poster magnified his pupil and posted a photo which clearly shows her standing silhouette and the camera flash very clear at waist level, the camera being unmistakably in her right hand on the right side of her body... leaving her left hand to hold the gun. )

because she has only seen gunshots in movies, she is unprepared for him to react by lunging at her, screaming. He's lunging at the gun, not the camera. The camera shoots the ceiling because he's coming at her and she's taken by surprise, perhaps he is even coming in low like she demonstrated. He's supposed to collapse, dead on the spot and she's horrified. He's on the ground writing and screaming now, she tries to shoot him again, gun jams, she runs to get the knife. She comes back and he is at the sink saying "Call the neighbors." He doesn't realize even yet that he was shot on purpose. He is looking in the mirror but blood is in his eyes. He splashes water on his face.

She attacks him stabbing and we know the rest.





 
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  • #837
So this is what Jodi looks like when she has been crying.

Would love a techie to post a side by side of this pic with the look she had on Thursday when she was supposedly crying.

She certainly looked nothing like that during and after crying on the stand, that's for sure. It's all for show.
 
  • #838
It doesn't make sense to me that JA would shower off while TA's body was in the shower too.

Wouldn't she just take a bath?

I can't understand how she got out of that bathroom without tracking blood through the house.

IMO, shetook her socks off and walked through the closet, around the blood on the edge of the carpet and down the stairs.
 
  • #839
I agree. Is there anywhere that shows the actual distance from the shower to the door to the hallway?

Kelly

I think the tiles in the bathroom and down the hall are twelve inches each. There is one crime scene photo looking out of the bathroom towards the hall. Doorways are a standard measurements for bathroom doors are usually thirty inches. On the tile leading in to the closet has a good size puddle of blood on it.
 
  • #840
but then JA answered Juan saying it was to a DVD player, or tv....she couldn't exactly remember....that's when it hit me!

Well, you're way ahead of me! It took me a full 2 days AND this message board! :blushing:
 
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