jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #66 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[suzyq211]

Wow. Can this person be called as a witness?Or would it be considered heresay? I typed in the search words you suggested, but tons of videos come up. Do you know the exact title of the video?

It actually is titled something about the man who gave Jodi money (or something to that effect).

 

[RR0004]

Yikes! Blown margins!!

 

[DeAnnaMisrahi]

Arias testified that she had parked in the middle spot of the driveway on 6/4/08. Why didn't Zach Billings or Enrique Cortez (Travis' roommates) mention anything about the car in the driveway ? In Detective Flores' report, and according to Zach, he arrived home at 3:00 PM in the afternoon on 6/4 and left an hour later. Enrique arrived home somewhere around 6-6:30 PM.
Surely they would have mentioned the car had they seen it.

Also, if Travis was killed @ 5:30 - 5:35 PM on 6/4 and Arias knew that Enrique would possibly get home around 6 PM, she had very little time to clean up the crime scene and get out without being seen or heard. To me, that kind of negates the theory that Arias showered or bathed at the scene.

How did she manage to leave the house without tracking blood? I don't think she took a thorough shower where she was able to get spic and span, clean, but I do think she took the time to try to rinse off a bit. She had about 25 minutes, and I imagine she would have wanted to get out with time to spare. So, let's say she took 10-15 minutes to rinse off and try to erase her presence at the crime scene, I can see that happening.

She probably would have killed his roommate, if he had shown up, too. She still had the gun.

 

[rose222]

If in the very unlikely event that there is a hung jury or a not guilty verdict then I will leave Websleuths, stop boring everyone with my posts and never follow another case ever.

I'm saying this because I'm confident the parasite will be found GUILTY.

 

[cubbeegirl]

Congratulations! And be proud of yourself, cubbeegirl -- you did what you knew you had to do & found the strength to do it.

He worked & worked on you and somehow implanted (for lack of a better word) the fear & depencency, and that implant is not a part of you anymore -- but you still remember it and have become a better woman for having learned to rise above it. Impressive!

Thank you ! It took a very long time even after realizing what was happening to me to quit being drawn in. It is a very tantalizing game they play with you and you find yourself being drawn in again and again. Myself and my son are much healthier now and every day is a struggle but we are free of the manipulation and craziness.
I think that Travis had come to the realization of what Jodi was, from the e-mails he sent her it is obvious. But sometimes our hearts wont let us believe what our brains know to be the truth...hence the answer to the question as to why he kept up any contact with her at all. Sadly, it cost him his life .
Also I am on the side of I do not believe he had sex with her on the fatal day.That really pushed her over the edge...she lost all control over him.If Jodi was not going to have him then no one would .It seems simple to me ...but what do i know lol

BTW I absolutely believe she went there with the intent to kill him... I think his turning her down is what put her into the rage that ultimately led to her absolute slaughter of him...He was a dead man either way once she arrived at his home IMO

 

[Nali87]

Who else is NOT looking forward to Jodi spinning everything tomorrow?

 

[Plumeria5]

BBM Agreed, and why?

If you're going to take snaps as trophies you don't delete them then leave the camera in a washing machine. The 'photo session' (if he even knew she was there) was a means by which to lure him into a vulnerable and virtually defenceless position, nothing more.

Unfortunately, I can hear her little voice complimenting Travis, saying how buff he is and on and on, wanting to capture his sculpted physique and he bought it.

 

[Quester]

Arias Prosecutor Scrutinized for Intense Approach
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/arias-prosecutor-scrutinized-intense-approach-18642427

 

[paperwing]

... someone here did showing how the last two pics of TA alive could be put together to make one bigger, more complete, photo. It was posted within the last few days.

(Respectfully snipped)

I made a comparison of the last two photos - side by side - zoomed out on the bottom, then zoomed in once, then again twice to show how the blood flow matches in both images... 2 rows of 3 photos each.

I think that was yesterday - but it doesn't sound like what you're looking for.

I WISH I could get my hands on high resolution copies of any of these photos... a lot can be found/drawn out while still keeping the image true. Bet I'm not the only one here who would jump at such a chance.

If you (or anyone) finds large high res images - alert the masses (especially me!)

 

[Isabelle]

I believe Jodi made her first attack on Travis when he began to rise from the seated position in the shower. He would have had to use his arms and they most likely were out to his sides on the walls of the shower. That would have put him in a perfect position for a stab or stabs to the chest/heart!

 

[RR0004]

If in the very unlikely event that there is a hung jury or a not guilty verdict then I will leave Websleuths, stop boring everyone with my posts and never follow another case ever.

I'm saying this because I'm confident the parasite will be found GUILTY.

I hate to thank this post, but I get what you're saying (never boring anyone, though ).
It could be the last straw for me as well.

 

[robc]

in the 5:30:30 photo, what's the object in the lower right hand corner by travis's foot?

there's a larger version here:

http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/n...n-the-same-day-he-was-murdered#slide=57634201

 

[Nali87]

I hate to thank this post, but I get what you're saying (never boring anyone, though ).
It could be the last straw for me as well.

I left for a LONG while after the CA verdict. I felt physically sick that day!
If there's not a guilty verdict in this case...:banghead:

 

[Jimmynap]

I feel like there's too much focus on the sex in this case and I hope it doesn't distract the jury from the issue at hand. These two weren't the first to have anal sex or do costume play and they certainly won't be the last, even if the media is acting like this is the first they've ever heard of this crazy stuff.

Keep in mind some of the sex stories are a lame attempt to trash TA as some kind of abuser. What I see is a nice guy who likes sex - Wow imagine that! (imo) - There's a lot less sex going on (esp. oral/anal). I might add there's less of any relationship that may appear and a lot more stalking going on we don't know about.

 

[minor4th]

Yes, I think that was his one big mistake in cross. It seems he didn't like to bring up up texts that showed Travis angry. Although in this case it's righteous anger at someone doing him wrong. I think it was also important to motivation since it came just 2 days before the gun was stolen.

These texts were admitted as evidence, and I think they speak for themselves. We have all drawn the same conclusions from them, and I believe the jury will also.

It would not have been helpful for Juan to ask Jodi what she did to make Travis so mad because she would have just lied to her advantage. In fact, I believe she already said he was so mad about her talking to another guy and not telling him who told her that he was dating other girls.

Juan is limited in what he can ask Jodi about because whatever she says about Travis can't be challenged by Travis' own testimony.

 

[Sunny_In_AZ]

in the 5:30:30 photo, what's the object in the lower right hand corner by travis's foot?

Mr. Martinez's pen.

 

[RR0004]

Who else is NOT looking forward to Jodi spinning everything tomorrow?

I can't live through anymore Nurmi. OMG! Was his hope to lull the jury into submission, or what?! I heard testimony repeated over the weekend and had to turn off the radio. He's pure torture.

 

[krkrjx]

But, couldn't that have been when he lunged at her (a silly thing to do IMO, regardless of the gun's size) and when he was shot, he stumbled to the sink (where there was a massive amount of blood) to look in the mirror to see the damage? That's when she started stabbing him in the back? He must at one point tried to get away...perhaps crawling? Perhaps they both ended up on the floor at some time. What else would explain the stab wounds on the bottom of his feet?

That would be my thought if the gunshot wound had bled profusely, as would be expected from a head wound. But according to the ME, it didn't bleed much at all. Makes it sound like a post-mortem wound. Whatever injury he had while at the sink was bleeding alot, or causing him to cough up blood.

 

[anagrammy]

I don't buy Jodi's story about Travis telling her to come and see him while she was on the road. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he didn't even know she was coming, that she arrived at night/early morning under the cover of darkness and she was the one who was on his computer early in the morning. It's possible Jodi could have taken the pictures of herself with a timer, rather than Travis taking them. Travis doesn't look excited to have his pictures taken (pun intended). The only part that doesn't make sense is why would he consent to have sex with her that afternoon? Is it possible there really was no sex, just naked pictures? Would love to hear other theories as to how that time at Travis' house unfolded. How many people think Travis invited her? How many think he didn't? Did she surprise him like she had many times in the past? Did he consent or want a sexual encounter with her? It seems to me that after he had sent emails calling her a sociopath and more, that he really would not be comfortable around her anymore. The sad part is we will never know the whole story.

Travis having "gone to the bishop" casts a whole new light on the above. Once a sexually active single Mormon has "gone to the bishop," a whole process of repentence is started up. He has to name the partner and that partner's bishop is informed that an affair has been transpiring. The partner is called into their bishop's office.

The reporting person is considered the more righteous. Women are considered less culpable than men. A man who is reported for sexual misconduct (by neighbors, friends, etc) may be either disfellowshipped or sent up the ladder of authority to the stake level for an excommunication trial, which is called a "Court of Love." It looks just like an inquisition with 15 or so chairs in a half circle around the single chair of the accused in the
center. It is not really a trial (no witnesses or facts) just the all-male suits talking and the accused. A person may be excommunicated even if they are repentent and promise to drop the person.

At some point after Arias left Mesa, and after the phone sex, Travis went to the bishop, according to Dateline. He would have to go back and confess again if he had sex with Arias after the visit. He was able to avoid losing his membership or undergoing the embarrassment of disfellowship by promising to cut her out of his life completely. He bailed on his plans to see her but did not tell her he had gone to the bishop out of fear of retaliation (he knew who slashed his tires....etc)

I think Jodi found out he had gone to his bishop and began to realize that she had lost all those wonderful friends (actually Travis' friends) in Arizona and now she was going to be facing excommunication herself as the unrepentant person in a fornication case. The actions of those courts are announced in Mormon leadership meetings and become the fodder for gossip. My point: he was taking away her reputation by confessing and naming her.

Nobody takes anything away from Ms. Arias. I believe that's when she began assembling evidence--taped the sex phone call, tried to find anything incriminating and ruin his reputation in return.

If he was going to dump her and take away from her the connection to the Mormon Church and PPL (intertwined), how would she be able to jump from man to man posing as a sincere believer/insurance saleswoman?

It was a lot harder from her Yreka bedroom at Grandma's than it was to throw that chum out in the water and sucker in a rich guy at a conference in Las Vegas.

To back up my point-

SHE NEVER WORKED THE PPL, just went to meetings. She made a grand total of $1700 in a year-- and that was with personal help from Travis and weekly inspirational phone calls from Gus.

SHE NEVER LIVED LIKE A MORMON, failing to keep the most basic rules which were promised at baptism. Believe me, as a single bombshell, those rules were laid out to her in fourth grade vocabulary.

SHE NEVER SOLD A PHOTOGRAPH, choosing to "focus" on her interest in taking pictures and turning down a good-paying career as a wedding planner because that did not put her in proximity to rich eligible bachelors, rather put her next to women less pretty (in her view) than she was and they were getting married!

ROAD TRIPS were not vacations and she refused to allow them to be referred to that way. They were her work. Photography was a way to justify the road trips where she leaped from man to man to man, making bank deposits along the way.

SHe thought she had it made in the shade latching onto MOrmonism because it was a way she could APPEAR to be religious or good without being that way. And she could be among a ton of men eager to get married. Which was EXACTLY WHAT SHE WANTED It is far more effective for a maneater like Jodi to be Mormon because unlike other religions, it is considered to be unspiritual and slightly weird to be unmarried; therefore, the men are all looking for wives. Also, they are naive.

Utah is the multi-level marketing mecca of the USA. It is also the state with the most white collar affinity crime - Mormons on Mormons. Young men ages 16-24 in Utah have the highest suicide rate in the United States. Utah is the state with the largest consumption in the nation. The whole focus on not-masturbating creates tragedies and mental illness for many normal Mormon males. As a single attractive female convert in Mormonism, EVERY SINGLE MAN I dated asked me to marry him-- and quickly too! I soon realized this was not my charms in action, this was a cultural problem.

Against this backdrop crawls forth Jodi Arias. She must have thought she died and went to heaven at her first Mormon-loaded PPL meeting. To hell with you, Daryll, I found some MARRY-MINDED boys and I have what they want.

She saw herself as having something unique to offer--the kinks of the worldly experience with the absolution of baptism and now she's clean, childless and oh-so-available.

Travis' rejection was taking away from her his love and allowing another woman to have what she felt was hers. It was also taking away from her the entire stage of theater on which she was performing so beautifully. She went from bed to bed to bed and in the Prepaid Legal world, she could travel the country that way-- she might never need to work. Imagine how she felt when she acquired a BMW from Travis! She was SET!

Now he was going to not only take away his love, but take her reputation with him, and now she learns he's gone to the bishop. That is the real end of the relationship. The going to the bishop. Her masquerade was definitely over.

I don't believe he had sex with Jodi when she showed up. I think he forbade her to come. I believe she took photos of him staging sex with the kY tubes while he was sleeping and photos of herself.

 

[RR0004]

I left for a LONG while after the CA verdict. I felt physically sick that day!
If there's not a guilty verdict in this case...:banghead:

Only reason I stuck around (for Caylee)...still waiting for Casey to get hers.