jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #56 *may contain graphic and adult content*
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In the end, it would have been a relief IF you weren't just that into him.
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"It takes two to tango"
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Haha!!!! Her own words biting her again. Proven LIAR.
How many witnesses? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
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Let the other party know that you're not enjoying the oral or anal sex. Tell them. Duh!
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Text message . . . after some physical violence JA wrote this on 4/18 . . .I thank you for being such and amazing friend . . . love you dearly - same with way loved MM you loved TA? no more sexual attraction to MM . . .
you go onto say thank you thank you . . .
yes
not in line or consistent with who he was
yes but he could be mean
rise his voice
yes
once fog has lifted you thank him and tell him wht an inspiration he was . . .
yes
gave us 2 versions
of what
of TA
I think I have given more than 2 versions
he was mean and loud to you and used to grill you
yes
yet writings we have don't support that specifically #484 - this is at odds of what you are teling us about Mr. A;s portrayal . .. you wanted us to believe under diret exam
noI believe what I said
He flourished on compliments
are you giving him compliments
yes
sounds like you don't mean them you just give him compliments
sometimes they were a little over the top
where you are gushing over him . . . you said he flourished on compliments way it sounds you were not sincere on the compliment
well . . hmm . . I belive he was amazing, he was an inspiration to me, I wanted to express my gratitude
all of this true . . . I this one of th ones you are telling the truth?
yes
part of what happened after you killed TA - there was a memorialsrvice you attended in Mesa . . what time of day?
don't remember - daytime
many people attended ... including Mimi - you talked to mimi
yes I did
even though you say you are shy you approached her and talked about TA and first learned he was going to cancun with her . .
can't remember . . .another told me right before . . .I heard her name was Mimi but I don't know if it was Mimi Hall
it was @ his memorial you first heard about going to Cancun with somebody else.
I assumed
@ the memorial service . . .do you know the date
I think June 15th
I think I assumed it but I got solid confirmation from Det flores
you met Miss Hall then
I might have spoken to Miss Hall before Brenda . . . don't remember
definitaviley knew Mimi was the one
because of conversation with Brenda
you and he had discussed going to Cancun before
yes
he didn't ask you to go
that is correct
you knew he was going with somebody
yes
knew it on June 2 2008
I assumed it was a babysitter
did you know on that date he wasgoing with somebody . . knew he ws going to Cancun with somebody eles
yes
he was still talking to you about sex
yes
he was actually going t go to Cancun with somebody else
let me show you an exhibit
him going to Cancun with somebody else didn't upset you
Exhibit #485 - you recognize this
there was a photo album with photos . . . I think I emailed it to someone . . they put it in the book. .I didn't sign it I just wrote on it in the book .. . (JA says she didn't bring the picture with her)
Nurmi looks over exhibit
#485 Travis you are beautiful on the inside and ou you always told me that . . .
that is not true based on what you told us in court
I believe he is . . . it is true
you think that him masturbating to little boy pictures makes him beautiful on the inside
I don't think that makes him beautiful
you gave him a pamphlet . .. he needed help
I gave him 2, he did need help - he hated those parts of himself. .. not someone he wanted to be . .. I believed he could get better
im asking if someone beautiful on the inside could have these problems
object
I believed that he aspects of himself that ere beautiful and some were ugly just like I do . . .
so it's a qualified statement
it doesn't tell the truth
this is a memorial book
you didn't have to write in the book or go to the memorial service
that's right
even if the memorial service you would attend each other's even in Antartica - you had an agreement
it wasn't quite like that
didn't you tell us on direct exam . . .
I didn't go to his funeral I didn't make It
the memorial service
that was not part of the agreement
do you think he should have gone to your memorial service even if he had killed you
I told him I like his speaking skills I asked he would do the eulogy for me I knew it would edify me . . . .
and you told him same thing
don't think so
on direct exam you said you felt compelled to go because of this agreement
he would have gone to mine - the eulogy was the agreement
you and he had talked about it . . . felt compelled to go even in Antartica
he said he would
that is how far the commitment to attend each other's memorial service
don't know about commitment but I felled compelled to go
you made the choice to go
yes I did
always told me never stopped believing in you . . .always believed in me
even though he would get this mean look on his face
that is who he wanted to be
I didn't ask you that
even though he choked you
I believed in his potential
even when he was kissing another girl - you still believed in him - he was courting you at the time
we weren't dating but it certainly cheapened his efforts
perhaps it cheapened him
never stop believing in him . . . he wasn't getting any help
I don't know, he said he was but I don't believe he did
he's not doing anything about it
I belive he was doingthings - not seeking professional help but he said he spent a lot of time in prayer
do you believe he went to a Bishop
he did talk to a Bishop about his . . . I really don't know
Thank you for your generosity . . . the world was blessed . .
a blessing to the world but he did all you allege
he was a blessing to the world in ways
you and he had quite the relationship . . . .
private relationship
private for a reason
yes
nobody knew what your affairs were . . . complaining about that?
don't remember the context but I remember being upset about that
it upset you that activities were behind closed doors
what activities
you went out - he wouldn't hold your hand kiss you. . .
he would if we were nt on our own turf
he wsa very attentive when doors were closed or people not around
yu could have left . . . you chose not to til April 08
I made decision Xmas 2007
you told him you were going to go t Yreka
yes
you are free to go anytime you want
I was broke so not really
you have parents
they would have helped you . . . you asked your mom for help to move . . .she flew into phoenix . . . whatever happened she went on her way shortly after she came out here . . . your parents would help you anyway they could . . . you were not stranded
I don't know ifthey would help me until she responded
they wouldn't know you needed help unless you calld
for that kind o help
you calledyour Mom she agreed to help and agreed to load the truck
I think I got the truck and load it and move but I think she was going to come here to help . . .
you were not stuck in AZz
I don'tknow sometimes my parents were financially capable of helping
this time when you asked them they did help
you didn't want to staywith your parents
no bedrooms there - no I didn't - went to my Grandparents
I got a job . . . I did not get a job for awhile . . .got a job @ casa ramos . . .had your own money - nobody took it away from you - not lending or giving $ back to TA
I was giving back money I owed to him
not giving
terms were free and loose
very loose
he said pay $100 per month or pay more if you can
he was not putting pressure on you
yes he wsa
was an amount mentioned
yes
the car . . .he was trying to find out who was responsible on your behalf on the damage to the call.
he called lawfirm and I called one
he wasn't upset with you
no he wasn;t
he tried to do the best he could for you
yes
you called him your hero in your journal. . in Yreka - TA in Mesa . . . only tie is sexual bond . . .
that and the car
carwas loose bond
yes
you could paid him and never talk to him
yes
you could pay him in 1 payment and not continue
yes
you did have this sexual bond
yes
you wanted to be with him as much as he with you
thatwould be accurate
when you @ Sky & Chris Hughes house one week after met him . . . you had oral sex . . . you were pretty attracted to you
did you like it
no
did you tell him that
no
he sure knew what he was doing
yes
doesn't it take one to know one? . . . how does one know it was g ood if not experienced in prior relations . .. when you said that you didn't mean it to be a negative thing . . .
no
wasn't your cup of tea . . . youcould have stopped seeing him . . .first time being with him
no second
you had sexual contact with him before that
no
there was an interest but my desire was not that developed to that point
you were not attracted to him to have sexual relations
not yet to that level
you were not sexually attracted t him in that moment
I wouldn't say that
oh you were sexually attracted . . .
I wasn't enjoying it internally . . . myself didn't exactly enjoy but there was something missing. . .
but there is only the internal and external - you were not enjoying it
once it progressed to the oral sex I was not enjoying it
you never told him or let him know this was unwelcomed
that's right I think I acted like I like it
all we hve is your word
yes
no video to show us you were enjoying this activity
um - that's correct "looks to upper side"
you were uncomfortable with that
some what yes
if you were uncomfy first time you could hve stopped it on the 2nd time
yes
you made the choice to be with him 2nd time
yes I did
at some point - even if you felt that way . . . it would be your responsilibty to let that person know you didn't want to proceed
yes
I felt I liked and didn't want to hurt his feelings . . . remember that?
yes
saying no would have been a blow to his ego
if you told him no?
yes
you cared about his ego after knowing him for 2 weeks - strong feelings for him
yes
sexual activity
well I didn't stop it
takes 2 to tango - mutual
yes
you go onto say thank you thank you . . .
yes
not in line or consistent with who he was
yes but he could be mean
rise his voice
yes
once fog has lifted you thank him and tell him wht an inspiration he was . . .
yes
gave us 2 versions
of what
of TA
I think I have given more than 2 versions
he was mean and loud to you and used to grill you
yes
yet writings we have don't support that specifically #484 - this is at odds of what you are teling us about Mr. A;s portrayal . .. you wanted us to believe under diret exam
noI believe what I said
He flourished on compliments
are you giving him compliments
yes
sounds like you don't mean them you just give him compliments
sometimes they were a little over the top
where you are gushing over him . . . you said he flourished on compliments way it sounds you were not sincere on the compliment
well . . hmm . . I belive he was amazing, he was an inspiration to me, I wanted to express my gratitude
all of this true . . . I this one of th ones you are telling the truth?
yes
part of what happened after you killed TA - there was a memorialsrvice you attended in Mesa . . what time of day?
don't remember - daytime
many people attended ... including Mimi - you talked to mimi
yes I did
even though you say you are shy you approached her and talked about TA and first learned he was going to cancun with her . .
can't remember . . .another told me right before . . .I heard her name was Mimi but I don't know if it was Mimi Hall
it was @ his memorial you first heard about going to Cancun with somebody else.
I assumed
@ the memorial service . . .do you know the date
I think June 15th
I think I assumed it but I got solid confirmation from Det flores
you met Miss Hall then
I might have spoken to Miss Hall before Brenda . . . don't remember
definitaviley knew Mimi was the one
because of conversation with Brenda
you and he had discussed going to Cancun before
yes
he didn't ask you to go
that is correct
you knew he was going with somebody
yes
knew it on June 2 2008
I assumed it was a babysitter
did you know on that date he wasgoing with somebody . . knew he ws going to Cancun with somebody eles
yes
he was still talking to you about sex
yes
he was actually going t go to Cancun with somebody else
let me show you an exhibit
him going to Cancun with somebody else didn't upset you
Exhibit #485 - you recognize this
there was a photo album with photos . . . I think I emailed it to someone . . they put it in the book. .I didn't sign it I just wrote on it in the book .. . (JA says she didn't bring the picture with her)
Nurmi looks over exhibit
#485 Travis you are beautiful on the inside and ou you always told me that . . .
that is not true based on what you told us in court
I believe he is . . . it is true
you think that him masturbating to little boy pictures makes him beautiful on the inside
I don't think that makes him beautiful
you gave him a pamphlet . .. he needed help
I gave him 2, he did need help - he hated those parts of himself. .. not someone he wanted to be . .. I believed he could get better
im asking if someone beautiful on the inside could have these problems
object
I believed that he aspects of himself that ere beautiful and some were ugly just like I do . . .
so it's a qualified statement
it doesn't tell the truth
this is a memorial book
you didn't have to write in the book or go to the memorial service
that's right
even if the memorial service you would attend each other's even in Antartica - you had an agreement
it wasn't quite like that
didn't you tell us on direct exam . . .
I didn't go to his funeral I didn't make It
the memorial service
that was not part of the agreement
do you think he should have gone to your memorial service even if he had killed you
I told him I like his speaking skills I asked he would do the eulogy for me I knew it would edify me . . . .
and you told him same thing
don't think so
on direct exam you said you felt compelled to go because of this agreement
he would have gone to mine - the eulogy was the agreement
you and he had talked about it . . . felt compelled to go even in Antartica
he said he would
that is how far the commitment to attend each other's memorial service
don't know about commitment but I felled compelled to go
you made the choice to go
yes I did
always told me never stopped believing in you . . .always believed in me
even though he would get this mean look on his face
that is who he wanted to be
I didn't ask you that
even though he choked you
I believed in his potential
even when he was kissing another girl - you still believed in him - he was courting you at the time
we weren't dating but it certainly cheapened his efforts
perhaps it cheapened him
never stop believing in him . . . he wasn't getting any help
I don't know, he said he was but I don't believe he did
he's not doing anything about it
I belive he was doingthings - not seeking professional help but he said he spent a lot of time in prayer
do you believe he went to a Bishop
he did talk to a Bishop about his . . . I really don't know
Thank you for your generosity . . . the world was blessed . .
a blessing to the world but he did all you allege
he was a blessing to the world in ways
you and he had quite the relationship . . . .
private relationship
private for a reason
yes
nobody knew what your affairs were . . . complaining about that?
don't remember the context but I remember being upset about that
it upset you that activities were behind closed doors
what activities
you went out - he wouldn't hold your hand kiss you. . .
he would if we were nt on our own turf
he wsa very attentive when doors were closed or people not around
yu could have left . . . you chose not to til April 08
I made decision Xmas 2007
you told him you were going to go t Yreka
yes
you are free to go anytime you want
I was broke so not really
you have parents
they would have helped you . . . you asked your mom for help to move . . .she flew into phoenix . . . whatever happened she went on her way shortly after she came out here . . . your parents would help you anyway they could . . . you were not stranded
I don't know ifthey would help me until she responded
they wouldn't know you needed help unless you calld
for that kind o help
you calledyour Mom she agreed to help and agreed to load the truck
I think I got the truck and load it and move but I think she was going to come here to help . . .
you were not stuck in AZz
I don'tknow sometimes my parents were financially capable of helping
this time when you asked them they did help
you didn't want to staywith your parents
no bedrooms there - no I didn't - went to my Grandparents
I got a job . . . I did not get a job for awhile . . .got a job @ casa ramos . . .had your own money - nobody took it away from you - not lending or giving $ back to TA
I was giving back money I owed to him
not giving
terms were free and loose
very loose
he said pay $100 per month or pay more if you can
he was not putting pressure on you
yes he wsa
was an amount mentioned
yes
the car . . .he was trying to find out who was responsible on your behalf on the damage to the call.
he called lawfirm and I called one
he wasn't upset with you
no he wasn;t
he tried to do the best he could for you
yes
you called him your hero in your journal. . in Yreka - TA in Mesa . . . only tie is sexual bond . . .
that and the car
carwas loose bond
yes
you could paid him and never talk to him
yes
you could pay him in 1 payment and not continue
yes
you did have this sexual bond
yes
you wanted to be with him as much as he with you
thatwould be accurate
when you @ Sky & Chris Hughes house one week after met him . . . you had oral sex . . . you were pretty attracted to you
did you like it
no
did you tell him that
no
he sure knew what he was doing
yes
doesn't it take one to know one? . . . how does one know it was g ood if not experienced in prior relations . .. when you said that you didn't mean it to be a negative thing . . .
no
wasn't your cup of tea . . . youcould have stopped seeing him . . .first time being with him
no second
you had sexual contact with him before that
no
there was an interest but my desire was not that developed to that point
you were not attracted to him to have sexual relations
not yet to that level
you were not sexually attracted t him in that moment
I wouldn't say that
oh you were sexually attracted . . .
I wasn't enjoying it internally . . . myself didn't exactly enjoy but there was something missing. . .
but there is only the internal and external - you were not enjoying it
once it progressed to the oral sex I was not enjoying it
you never told him or let him know this was unwelcomed
that's right I think I acted like I like it
all we hve is your word
yes
no video to show us you were enjoying this activity
um - that's correct "looks to upper side"
you were uncomfortable with that
some what yes
if you were uncomfy first time you could hve stopped it on the 2nd time
yes
you made the choice to be with him 2nd time
yes I did
at some point - even if you felt that way . . . it would be your responsilibty to let that person know you didn't want to proceed
yes
I felt I liked and didn't want to hurt his feelings . . . remember that?
yes
saying no would have been a blow to his ego
if you told him no?
yes
you cared about his ego after knowing him for 2 weeks - strong feelings for him
yes
sexual activity
well I didn't stop it
takes 2 to tango - mutual
yes
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shes so full of crap like a porta john..
I thought it would be a blow to his ego if i told him no..
Who in the hell does she think she is a supermodel? Movie Star?
I thought it would be a blow to his ego if i told him no..
Who in the hell does she think she is a supermodel? Movie Star?
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She's been wearing more make-up beginning Thursday, in my opinion.
After all is said and done, do you think JM will talk openly about what he thought of Arias? I loved the recap of events so far on HLN. Arias' head feels scrambled....FOR GAWD'S SAKE did she think prosecution was supposed to be a walk in the park????? What was she expecting? compared to what she did to Travis, this IS a walk in the park!
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Her duping delight is coming out again this afternoon.
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Love for his bank account, his house, his life style . . . .
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I need to take a potty break, grab a drink and a snack. PLEASE Nurmi can't you quick object and sidebar PLEASE?!lease:
Kept think of doing kegels exercises
justice be served
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Am I imagining things or did Juan just answer the judge "yes, sir" and Jodi had to wipe her mouth to stop from laughing?
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