jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #57 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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OK, I am doing a 2:15 am review.........so bear with me. When I saw this for sometime before....which didn't have this entire photo on WS previously......I thought this was next to a ........what do you call it........ the board on the wall at the bottom of the floor and up......

Now, looking at it. It looks like the divider that lines either my sliding door to my closet, or the divider to my showers metal thingy.......in other words, I don't think it is the board on the wall to floor vertical....it is ON THE FLOOR horizontal. Does that make sense? therefore, all my trying to judge sizes were off it it was just a 1-2" piece flat to floor, vs. a 4" up down things that is on everyone's walls to the floor.

It looks like a baseboard to me but I'm trying to figure out where. It almost looks like it has to be in the bathroom because the wall and the floor are such similar colors and seeing the scene photos, the bathroom walls were a dark faux brown and the tile was a dark brown but I've also seen pics of what appears to be stained concrete in his house like I have in my own so who the heck knows.
Here's a pic of his bedroom.
Also, in the second pic down by his toes, I don't know if that's just color distortion in the pic or could it possibly be blood down the front lip of the shower meaning at some point she had to have drug him out of said shower stall already bleeding??? :waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:
 

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I don't know how to get the video link from You Tube over here for this on this IPad. It's so different than the PC. Sorry. But it comes right up in Google.

Pink

Please Don't Leave Me
Official version

Da da da da da, da da da da
Da da da, da da

I don't know if I can yell any louder
How many times I've kicked you outta here
Or said something insulting?
Da da da, da da

I can be so mean when I wanna be
I'm capable of really anything
I can cut you into pieces
But my heart is broken
Da da da, da da

Please don't leave me
Please don't leave me
I always say how I don't need you
But it's always gonna come back down to this
Please don't leave me

How did I become so obnoxious?
What is it with you that makes me act like this?
I've never been this nasty
Da da da, da da

Can't you tell this is all just a contest?
The one that wins will be the one that hits the hardest
But baby, I don't mean it

I mean it, I promise
Da da da, da da

Please don't leave me
Oh, please don't leave me
I always say how I don't need you
But it's always gonna come right back to this

Please don't leave me

I forgot to say out loud how beautiful you really are to me
I cannot be without, you're my perfect little punching bag
And I need you, I'm sorry
Da da da, da da

Please don't leave me
Baby please don't leave me
No don't leave me
(Da da da, da da)

YOU say I don't need you
But it's always gonna come right back to this
Baby please don't leave me

The video is UNreal. She really belts it out while acting out!!
 
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Okay, I've changed my mind now lol I think you guys are right and I'm wrong.

I do think the foot looks distorted though because she is stepping down when the picture is taken.

that filter did a good job of making it look like a foot in an x ray. jmo
 
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That might make sense, but on the "other side" of where he is being dragged/shoe is either carpeted or has that faux finish of his walls?

I have to admit that I haven't taken a close look at any of the evidence photos because I get yucked out easily seeing blood. Things like that stay with me and I already feel horrible enough about what happened to Travis and I never even knew the poor guy. But when I was looking at the pic you posted I wondered what the textured "wall" was too. He didn't, by chance, have a shower door that was textured? In my parents old house they had a shower door from the 70's that was textured so you couldn't really see through it. Kinda a swirly/bumpy pattern to the glass if that makes any sense.
 
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that filter did a good job of making it look like a foot in an x ray. jmo

Yeah it's kind of weird. Now I wonder if she was wearing socks and not shoes. I think it would kind of make sense because she'd just have to dispose of socks and not shoes too, but I sure wouldn't want to attack someone with a knife while only wearing socks. Okay so I wouldn't want to attack someone with a knife either way but...yeah....I don't know.
 
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There's those wavy lines on the baseboard
 

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Okay, I've changed my mind now lol I think you guys are right and I'm wrong.

I do think the foot looks distorted though because she is stepping down when the picture is taken.

Stepping down, yes. It looks like you can see the edge of the boot toe up in the air [it looks like boots to me].
 
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I'm sorry, but if Jodi is very intelligent, then she's a virgin too. Though I'm sure she will tell you she is both if she thinks that is what you want to hear.

She's not intelligent. She's stubborn as a stick, and she's cunning. That isn't intelligence. Sociopaths can be quite smart, and often they are brilliantly good at figuring out what people want to hear, then telling them that. I don't particularly see examples that she has a lot of talent in that area, even.

Sociopaths/psychopaths, in general, have huge blind spots. They don't have a long term plan, they do what they feel the urge to do in the moment. Some folks would find her fun and exciting to be around. She probably can be charming as all get out if she thinks she can schmooze her way into something good. She's got not one shred of personal integrity, so she'll do/say anything she thinks will help her. That still isn't intelligence.

Someone said that if you offer a psychopath the choice of $0.25 today or $5.00 tomorrow, they will take the quarter today. Every. Single. Time. Look at her. She murders a man simply because she is enraged that he is moving on, leaving her behind. She's not angry because she is so attached to him. She's angry because she has to win. And if he dumps her, she isn't the winner. So in a fit of spite, she kills a person. Not well planned. She can't think that far ahead. She can't recognize how everything she says lacks that resonance of truth. Everything points back to her. Within days she is locked up. And the best she can come up with is a story about bloodthirsty Arizona ninjas. A creative 5th grader can come up with a more plausible explanation.

Intelligence is the ability to adapt to changing situations. To learn from previous experience what does and doesn't work. On trial for her very life, she is unable to adapt to the way in which she has been cross examined. Don't get me wrong, Mr. Martinez is a hell of a prosecutor, and I certainly wouldn't want to go up against him in any situation. But she has had three years to do NOTHING but prepare for this. And she's killing herself because she can't stand to "lose" an argument. She has to try to look like the smartest person in the room, even though it's completely against her best interests in the long run. Sorry, no intelligence shining through there.

MOO, of course.

If this is true doesn't that mean it wasn't premeditated? I don't think it was a fit of spite. She may not think too far ahead but she thought enough to bring a gun and knife with her. She knew what she was going to do. It wasn't an impulsive act but a not so well thought out plan that she truly thought she could get away with by claiming to be on the road, lost, to Utah when it happened.
 
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OK, so I am catching up via you tube. Also have a rerun of JANE on which said court ended early. How early and is there court tomorrow?
 
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There's that wavy lines on the baseboard

It can't be the baseboard cause the white verticle thing on the right looks like a door that swings over it in the origional pic. Looks more like a carpet/tile divider to me..
 
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If this is true doesn't that mean it wasn't premeditated? I don't think it was a fit of spite. She may not think too far ahead but she thought enough to bring a gun and knife with her. She knew what she was going to do. It wasn't an impulsive act but a not so well thought out plan that she truly thought she could get away with by claiming to be on the road, lost, to Utah when it happened.

My opinion is it was premeditated, for the reasons that you stated and more. Look at how close she was to getting away with it. No one saw her. Nothing to put her at his house. I doubt he knew she was coming, so he would not have told anyone. No receipts, no cell towers pinging, --how would you prove it was her?

Just an act of God--snapping pictures, a camera carelessly left behind, a palm print and her blood deposited on one wall.
 
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It can't be the baseboard cause the white verticle thing on the right looks like a door that swings over it in the origional pic. Looks more like a carpet/tile divider to me..

It is a door. It's the door to the bathroom right next to the shower.
 
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I don't know what happened here but I can barely read this page anymore. Trying to read what I missed while typing but it's nearly impossible?

I also don't know if any one mentioned this but I was thinking about the supposed choking incident where JA had to wear make- up on her neck (yeah right) and didn't catch the date. I'm wondering because she takes so many pics and has so many taken of herself that I'm wondering if there are any around that time which could disprove that allegation?

Wouldn't that be something. But if there was a pic where her neck has none of the bruises she claimed, she would insist right there in the court room that they are there!

I noticed she's over using the DV key words today. Of course not. My state of mind. Etc etc
Makes me sick.

Can't see the print here anymore. What happened?
 
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My opinion is it was premeditated, for the reasons that you stated and more. Look at how close she was to getting away with it. No one saw her. Nothing to put her at his house. I doubt he knew she was coming, so he would not have told anyone. No receipts, no cell towers pinging, --how would you prove it was her?

Just an act of God--snapping pictures, a camera carelessly left behind, a palm print and her blood deposited on one wall.

I thought it was funny in one of the first interrogations with Flores she commented that she wasn't a murderer but if she were she would know enough to wear gloves. Then why didn't she? Was that one of the things she didn't think through until she was busted?
 
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I don't know what happened here but I can barely read this page anymore. Trying to read what I missed while typing but it's nearly impossible?

I also don't know if any one mentioned this but I was thinking about the supposed choking incident where JA had to wear make- up on her neck (yeah right) and didn't catch the date. I'm wondering because she takes so many pics and has so many taken of herself that I'm wondering if there are any around that time which could disprove that allegation?

Wouldn't that be something. But if there was a pic where her neck has none of the bruises she claimed, she would insist right there in the court room that they are there!

I noticed she's over using the DV key words today. Of course not. My state of mind. Etc etc
Makes me sick.

Can't see anymore here!

If there are pictures, you can bet JM has them.

But, a lack of pictures is just as much evidence to my mind. The professional photographer [Jodi] who photographs every orifice of her body, doesn't bother to photograph choke marks on her neck?

I don't think so.
 
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The "whats that" pic blew the margins.
 
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Has 'Ironic" by Alanis Morissette been added to the playlist yet?

Isn't it ironic that pics from the camera link the photographer to MURDER
And isn't it ironic, don't you think?

I want to add Fiona Apple - Criminal.

I've been a bad bad girl
I've been careless with a delicate man
And it's a sad sad world
When a girl will break a boy
Just because she can
Don't you tell me to deny it
I've done wrong and I want to
Suffer for my sins
I've come to you 'cause I need
Guidance to be true
And I just don't know where I can begin

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feelin' like a criminal
And I need to redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

Heaven help me for the way I am
Save me from these evil deeds
Before I get them done
I know tomorrow brings the consequence
At hand
But I keep livin' this day like
The next will never come

Oh help me but don't tell me
To deny it
I've got to cleanse myself
Of all these lies till I'm good
Enough for him
I've got a lot to lose and I'm
Bettin' high
So I'm beggin' you before it ends
Just tell me where to begin

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feelin' like a criminal
And I need to redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

Let me know the way
Before there's hell to pay
Give me room to lay the law and let me go
I've got to make a play
To make my lover stay
So what would an angel say
The devil wants to know

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feelin' like a criminal
And I need to redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feelin' like a criminal
And I need to redeemed
To the one I've sinned against

Because he's all I ever knew of love
 
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If this is true doesn't that mean it wasn't premeditated? I don't think it was a fit of spite. She may not think too far ahead but she thought enough to bring a gun and knife with her. She knew what she was going to do. It wasn't an impulsive act but a not so well thought out plan that she truly thought she could get away with by claiming to be on the road, lost, to Utah when it happened.

Planned. Not well planned. Srsly, ninjas did it? She can't see past that moment of gory glory where she gets her ultimate way. It is like she is running a script through her head. Vengeance, vengeance, I'll show Travis who he's dealing with...... but no understanding of how to not be caught afterward.

I don't know. People who can do such things, I think they give up their claim on humanity. I can say she probably has not had a happy life, but she really is a freak of nature. Looks like a human, but she's not. I feel bad for the person she could have been, if she was a human. Jodi herself? No, vicious little monster.

Makes the vicious monster part of me think, "Oh, you don't feel any pain from your conscience? Well then, lets see what kind of pain you DO feel."
 
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