jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 13TH DAY #62 *may contain graphic and adult content*
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Man, a wet slippery floor and Travis comes running at her in the bathroom. Jodi is in the center of the bathroom holding a gun with both hands on it. Travis, comes out of the closet door, and is able to run while wet, and on a slippery floor.
NOT so BELIEVABLE.
NOT so BELIEVABLE.
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So many coincidences! Feel your freedom slipping away JA
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A defining moment, that defines her.
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She is so frightening .. she looks more furious and dangerous than I've ever seen her.
You reach up and get this gun . . . you indicated the gun was in this corner here - pretty high shelf . . .no . . how tall are you? I believe I am 5'5" . . . this shelving goes to the roof - it is higher than the door - you @ 5'6" you can reach up and grab on top shelf . . yes or no
yes
it isn't situation you can get up with just one hand . . .you were somehow able to put one foot on one of these shelves - one foot up there one hand . . . - sitting way in the back - one corner- not way back - just the wall . . . put youer foot on one of these shelves without disturb anything else - nothing was disturbed - my foot went right on the edge - didn't disturb any shoes, pants, ties - nothing disturbed
d
exhibit #69 - further out view - includes the bench seat - nothing is disturbed - that is right
very angry man coming thru and coming after you - very angry about his camera and you were able to get his gun . . that is rigt . . . same gun you told Det. he didn't own - that right.
you initiated the contact with the Det. . .. yes - what are you telling us today is inconsistent with this statement - that is right . . . took years - yes years it took me . . .
answer is it came years later
yes
heated text messages - fighting arguing - no where does he ever threaten you physically
Nooooo he doesn't
I am trying to think I know we talk about it no threats
no police, or other individuals who come in to say he mistreat you
not physically
individuals said he mistreated you
yes
Dan freeman
trip to Havasupai . . .
I was mortified
he wanted it to be enjoyable . . .take out heavy products in backpack - you got mad @ him - no he got mad @ me . . .Dan Freeman or I thought you talk about Travis . . . he got mad backpacks get heavy .. . . somehow what dan freeman did you argued with TA . . . .way you phrased it it was TA's fault. . that time - it was yes
you were upset with someone . . . I wasn't that upstairs
your actions no way shape or form had no impact on what happened @ havisupai
no they did . . . . I don't know how it started
your actions started this whole fracus . . .you were there and know how fite stared - dan freeman got in your stuff and removed items . .. that is not when I would consider the argument beginning
TA never threatened physical harm - no . .. you did threaten him with physical harm
I don't think I ever
lets look @ your exhibit
it gets old . . . you have 27 hours and you are moaning about not making PC . . . you shouldn't hang up on someone . . . nor should you have to . .. . .
I wanted to tell you something about today - it is important and time is of the essense - toobad you should have not hung up on me. . . still not joking - still angry
it was for your own benefit not mine - I care for you . . .
only did this cuz you care for him - hanging up on him you really love him
indirectly
if I didn't love him his swearing would not be so bad - in an indirect way it could be construed that way - not the direct reason
you hung up because you love him yes or no
put plainly like that I would have to say no
he said whatever Jodi
16:53 until 16:57 roughly 4 min later - you guys were fighting in this conversation - yes we were arguing . . . not a joke not at this point . . . .
whatever you in the nose Travis . . .
that was his joke he used to say
you think that is the joke - I am trying to diffuse his anger
not what it says .. .
not if you know TA
you are wrong
look @ next message - just trying to help you - it is reasonable I shouldn't tolerate swearing . . I am trying to ameliorate the situation . . .
it was a joke . .
you grab the gun from this area here - without disturbing anything
that is correct
what do you do . . .
right as I reach for it . . .he follows me out the door
you are able to get the gun while he is opens the door
no contemporaneous with that
gun near the door?
when I grabbed it yes
when it is kept up here
he is able to get in the door in the closet - you have at least 11 or 12 foot headstart . . .
yes
you could have been out this door
yes
you chose to escalate it even though you had head start
no I tried to deescalate it
by getting a handgun?
yes
whatever in the nose Travis is a way to de-escalate
yes that was a joke
exhibit #172 - see closet door - the one you came out of . . . where did you go? into the bathroom - where do you stand? in the center . . . a little further away than this picture shows . . . . you ran in the bath you are in a hurry - you wanna get away . . . I want him to not get near me - you are going quickly - yes sprinting - not leisurely - definitely not . . . took a few steps and turned around . .. quick steps like running . . . get away from circumstances - yes - floor was wet and kind of slippery
you had socks?
I don't remember
see photo
that is your foot?
that is a sock?
yes it is a black sock
run in here . . . .and say it is wet . . . but if anybody is more wet it is him . . talk about slipping he is more wet . . not you - socks provide better traction - yes . . .
go in here and then pivot -turn around . . you run in here don't go that way - easier to ocme to the right than go to center - I don't know I wasn't thinking left right . . .
it is closer to go to the right than center of bath
I would say equal distance
you turn around - does take some time
which hand you have gun
both
both hands outstretched .
he is still not there - he is in the closet - he is coming in the door
how far away from the door/
don't know . . I was in middle of the bath - he was running at me . . . almost not give time to react . . don't know - he was running at me the time I turned around . . he was coming @ me . . . got down . . he was close right? he was closer than I wanted him to be in that moment - how close did you want him to be?
I don't know
how close is he to you?
objection - overruled
that distance was close - then you shot him .. . he got closer before you shot him = I think it was all simultaneous . .
no problem remembering this part
when you break it down that much
you said you never killed anyone - a highlight in your life
a defining moment
it will stick with you
the gun you brought from Yreka didn't you
no?
how far away was he
he was running toward me - distance varied . . . within 4 feet
I guess . . .don't know how long
take a look @ measurements here - it will tell us . . .
yes
it isn't situation you can get up with just one hand . . .you were somehow able to put one foot on one of these shelves - one foot up there one hand . . . - sitting way in the back - one corner- not way back - just the wall . . . put youer foot on one of these shelves without disturb anything else - nothing was disturbed - my foot went right on the edge - didn't disturb any shoes, pants, ties - nothing disturbed
d
exhibit #69 - further out view - includes the bench seat - nothing is disturbed - that is right
very angry man coming thru and coming after you - very angry about his camera and you were able to get his gun . . that is rigt . . . same gun you told Det. he didn't own - that right.
you initiated the contact with the Det. . .. yes - what are you telling us today is inconsistent with this statement - that is right . . . took years - yes years it took me . . .
answer is it came years later
yes
heated text messages - fighting arguing - no where does he ever threaten you physically
Nooooo he doesn't
I am trying to think I know we talk about it no threats
no police, or other individuals who come in to say he mistreat you
not physically
individuals said he mistreated you
yes
Dan freeman
trip to Havasupai . . .
I was mortified
he wanted it to be enjoyable . . .take out heavy products in backpack - you got mad @ him - no he got mad @ me . . .Dan Freeman or I thought you talk about Travis . . . he got mad backpacks get heavy .. . . somehow what dan freeman did you argued with TA . . . .way you phrased it it was TA's fault. . that time - it was yes
you were upset with someone . . . I wasn't that upstairs
your actions no way shape or form had no impact on what happened @ havisupai
no they did . . . . I don't know how it started
your actions started this whole fracus . . .you were there and know how fite stared - dan freeman got in your stuff and removed items . .. that is not when I would consider the argument beginning
TA never threatened physical harm - no . .. you did threaten him with physical harm
I don't think I ever
lets look @ your exhibit
it gets old . . . you have 27 hours and you are moaning about not making PC . . . you shouldn't hang up on someone . . . nor should you have to . .. . .
I wanted to tell you something about today - it is important and time is of the essense - toobad you should have not hung up on me. . . still not joking - still angry
it was for your own benefit not mine - I care for you . . .
only did this cuz you care for him - hanging up on him you really love him
indirectly
if I didn't love him his swearing would not be so bad - in an indirect way it could be construed that way - not the direct reason
you hung up because you love him yes or no
put plainly like that I would have to say no
he said whatever Jodi
16:53 until 16:57 roughly 4 min later - you guys were fighting in this conversation - yes we were arguing . . . not a joke not at this point . . . .
whatever you in the nose Travis . . .
that was his joke he used to say
you think that is the joke - I am trying to diffuse his anger
not what it says .. .
not if you know TA
you are wrong
look @ next message - just trying to help you - it is reasonable I shouldn't tolerate swearing . . I am trying to ameliorate the situation . . .
it was a joke . .
you grab the gun from this area here - without disturbing anything
that is correct
what do you do . . .
right as I reach for it . . .he follows me out the door
you are able to get the gun while he is opens the door
no contemporaneous with that
gun near the door?
when I grabbed it yes
when it is kept up here
he is able to get in the door in the closet - you have at least 11 or 12 foot headstart . . .
yes
you could have been out this door
yes
you chose to escalate it even though you had head start
no I tried to deescalate it
by getting a handgun?
yes
whatever in the nose Travis is a way to de-escalate
yes that was a joke
exhibit #172 - see closet door - the one you came out of . . . where did you go? into the bathroom - where do you stand? in the center . . . a little further away than this picture shows . . . . you ran in the bath you are in a hurry - you wanna get away . . . I want him to not get near me - you are going quickly - yes sprinting - not leisurely - definitely not . . . took a few steps and turned around . .. quick steps like running . . . get away from circumstances - yes - floor was wet and kind of slippery
you had socks?
I don't remember
see photo
that is your foot?
that is a sock?
yes it is a black sock
run in here . . . .and say it is wet . . . but if anybody is more wet it is him . . talk about slipping he is more wet . . not you - socks provide better traction - yes . . .
go in here and then pivot -turn around . . you run in here don't go that way - easier to ocme to the right than go to center - I don't know I wasn't thinking left right . . .
it is closer to go to the right than center of bath
I would say equal distance
you turn around - does take some time
which hand you have gun
both
both hands outstretched .
he is still not there - he is in the closet - he is coming in the door
how far away from the door/
don't know . . I was in middle of the bath - he was running at me . . . almost not give time to react . . don't know - he was running at me the time I turned around . . he was coming @ me . . . got down . . he was close right? he was closer than I wanted him to be in that moment - how close did you want him to be?
I don't know
how close is he to you?
objection - overruled
that distance was close - then you shot him .. . he got closer before you shot him = I think it was all simultaneous . .
no problem remembering this part
when you break it down that much
you said you never killed anyone - a highlight in your life
a defining moment
it will stick with you
the gun you brought from Yreka didn't you
no?
how far away was he
he was running toward me - distance varied . . . within 4 feet
I guess . . .don't know how long
take a look @ measurements here - it will tell us . . .
She isnt denying killing him. She just says she doesn't remember the stabbing, but remembers immediately before and after. She was shown a picture and she described what she saw.
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Correct, not during trial. Nothing mood altering. And this girl is only allowed 1 Advil at a time so she won't kill herself with it
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That's what I heard. She ran down the hall, made a right into the closet and slammed the door. TA, instead of coming through the bathroom door, took the same route.
She runs into the bathroom with him behind her. She turns with the gun. Okey dokey.
This is stooooopid, not believable and clearly not self defense.
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