jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 14TH DAY #69*may contain graphic and adult content*

[MeeBee]

You could be right, Brown....hard to say.

If I was a juror, it would effect me because she seems convincing when she defends him.

I found her interrogation interview very convincing too, even though I knew she was lying. It is so easy to believe people like Jodi because they have spent years and years honing their abilities. When do the lies begin and end? That's why I can't believe anything she says, because the lies just roll right out, just as easily as what she is saying now.

 

[seguek9]

No.
No.

*and a collective sigh is heard 'round the world"
:sigh:

 

[Nali87]

Yes DeAnna...I think that Travis used Arias for sex. He used her for the kind of sex he couldn't get with the good Mormon girls. He continued to see her even though he didn't care for her. And she did the same because she was in love with him. She was in love with him, even if he wasn't good for her.

He didn't pursue her in the classical sense. But I think he had a partial obsession with her too. He needed her sexually. The thought of her with another man in the way she was with him made him upset, even if he didn't love her.

This is just my concept...or what I get from what I have seen.

Jodi seems very clear - based on the interogation tapes and such/ 48 hours interview - that this was a "friends with benefits" (where you're not dating, but basically scratching an itch with each other) type of situation. You say Travis "used" her. But now a days it's pretty common for people to casually have sex with each other. (I mean, it doesn't work all the time but it's pretty normal.) I think Jodi went into this with her eyes wide open, tbh. She wasn't an innocent woman with no previous experience with men.

So when you say Travis used her for sex, I don't agree with that. I think the nature of their relationship became purely about sex. Maybe during their relationship Jodi decided she wanted more or she went into this hoping it would become more. We don't know. But I don't think it's correct to assume Travis was using her, just because they were having sex and nothing else.

 

[Rileyanne]

Her compassion for Travis? She allowed him to use her for sex. She was crazy about him. Perhaps this sent her over the edge...I don't know.

I have compassion for Travis. I feel terrible about the crime. I am not sure why he continued to see Arias if he didn't care for her.

I will say this, if it wasn't self defense then I feel sure it was pre-meditated.

Rarely post and I certainly respect your right to express your opinion; however I need only to respond to your statement regarding TA continuing to see JA if he did not care for her. The answer is simple: she was more than willing to participate in kinky sex and he was a normal 30-something young man with all the normal desires a man his age has...be he Mormon, Catholic, Methodist, Agnostic, Chinese, Caucasian, African-American.

It's as simple or as complex as that.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I have watched it and it does make me pause, Pink Potion. Her demeanor is very disturbing throughout.

My mother and I have both been interested crime for many years. She is in her 60's and I am in my 40's. We both feel the same. Very uncanny.

I find Arias more likable than I thought I would. If I look at this case without anything but what I have seen in the court, I have no doubt that I could not agree to the death penalty.

She offered to plead to 2nd degree for life in prison. Prosecution declined. Not sure that was wise. But heck, what do I know?

Thanks for your kind interest in what I have to say though...even if we disagree about things. I find your respect refreshing...as I am sure other quiet posters who agree with me appreciate also.

shefner,
I appreciate hearing opposing opinion, if only to figure out what the state needs to work on. Just wanted to ask you if you've had a chance to read the plea deal.
This is the link if you want to read it: Oct 26, 2010

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

 

[LinasK]

My high school English teacher assigned 100 SAT words every other day. My vocabulary is spectacular, my spelling...not so much. It's my opinion, she uses a vocabulary she picked up while reading romance novels. She doesn't know how to use or pronounce the words she uses. The purpose of her verbiage is to put forth a facade that she's educated and intelligent. IMO she is neither. It's as fake as everything else about her.

That's exactly what I think of when I hear the term 'ravish'. I think romance novel.

 

[Liebchenmutti]

To this day, Jodi admits Travis was a great person...and that she loves him.

This sounds like an abuse victim.

But I need some expert information....

She's so sweet! But she also "admits" that Travis masturbated to images of boys and girls (yet he still had a huge sexual attraction to grown women--something that PEDOPHILES don't have).

Travis was a great guy! He "jacked off" to pictures of little children and anally invated Jodi, even though Ms. Jodi's nether-regions look pretty well used by all the other men she grifted.

Jodi was the abuser--and like abusers that kill their partner, she takes every opportunity to disparage the victim by accusing him of the vilest thing that you possibly could--pedophilia. She paints him as a rapist--when SHE is the sexual aggressor.

You won't get "expert information" from people who take money to give certain opinions. Just read DV stories about women who are killed by men who "loved" them--and you'll see Jodi's picture right there. MOO

 

[BrownRice]

What time does court start tomorrow? ("Green Witch" time)

That did make me laugh today.

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

Yes DeAnna...I think that Travis used Arias for sex. He used her for the kind of sex he couldn't get with the good Mormon girls. He continued to see her even though he didn't care for her. And she did the same because she was in love with him. She was in love with him, even if he wasn't good for her.

He didn't pursue her in the classical sense. But I think he had a partial obsession with her too. He needed her sexually. The thought of her with another man in the way she was with him made him upset, even if he didn't love her.

This is just my concept...or what I get from what I have seen.

I agree that TA made a poor decision to keep having sex with JA, but she sure seems to have been a veritable circus of sexcapades and a young man with high testosterone doesn't always make the best choices. My goodness, the girl doesn't have the word No. in her vast vocabulary. I make no judgment of what they did together. I do, however, judge her actions against him. She had several choices and she chose to kill him and butcher him. And now, she would like to not be held responsible for what she did. She never came forward and confessed. Had LE not been on the ball and charged her, where would she be today? Living whatever life she wants, knowing that she savagely killed TA. All her actions up to prosecution were to avoid being held responsible. Hence, her actions since are the same. The DT is blanketing us with the sexual stuff and it's getting old. If it was self defense why not call the police, hysterical and sorry? Her actions after the murder tell you what she's made of.

 

[goldie finch]

And had a lot of time with Webster's Dictionary and a thesaurus in the last 4 and half years in her cell ...

Let's hope she doesn't get her hands on Bartlett's
Familiar Quotations. Shudder..

 

[TexMex]

Or it could be that there was no abuse, he really was a great person, and that's why she loved him.

And it's a couple of years of coaching by her lawyers, mitigation specialists and paid experts on how to answer questions put to her to appear to be in line with the classic profile of an emotionally, physically and/or sexually abuse victim.
Pretty much everyone else,including past girlfriends have testified Travis was a very good guy.

 

[Hatfield]

Her compassion for Travis? She allowed him to use her for sex. She was crazy about him. Perhaps this sent her over the edge...I don't know.

I have compassion for Travis. I feel terrible about the crime. I am not sure why he continued to see Arias if he didn't care for her.

I will say this, if it wasn't self defense then I feel sure it was pre-meditated.

Hello Shefner,

Just a question. Have you seen every day of testimony for this trial from the very beginning and especially her 7 days with Nurmi on direct?

The reason I ask is I have noticed that some people that can even remotely believe her story have not followed the case as closely as others.

For me at first, I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but as the trial wore on, it has become so obvious to me that she has made up her whole story of Travis attacking her.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Travis abused her physically in any way. And I cant take her word for it because she has proven herself to be a liar, a jealous person who is obsessive about it.

So much has been proven IMO that it throws her story totally out the window.

 

[Steely Dan]

JA hasn't been studying the thesaurus carefully, she chose the wrong word (Ravish), there is a inference of rape in her own words.

A defense attorney, IIRC, can't make up a defense story for the client. However, I wouldn't doubt that they can coach them on how to respond to their questions. Hopefully a lawyer on the board will respond to this.

What is likable about Jodi? I'm sorry... I just can't seem to seem to find one likable trait. I realize I am biased because I think she premeditated Travis' murder, but for those who see likable traits in her. What do you see? I'm asking this in a respectful way and am not at all trying to stir up an argument. I just don't see what you see and am trying to understand.

I have a little sympathy for her, but I think she's majorly culpable in all of this. Why I have some sympathy for her is that I feel that TA led her on in order to get sex without destroying his clean Mormon reputation. He never saw her as wife material, but may have led her to believe she was. The fact that he continued a sexual relationship with her makes me feel that he wasn't totally honest with her.

It's my belief that most women in a situation like that would eventually figure out what was going on and with many tears leave and put it up to a life experience that has made them wiser. Jodi is a psychopath and it's never her fault, it's always someone else. She seems to lack any culpability for her actions. JMO

 

[Turnadot]

There has been no evidence of "crime of passion" in the legal sense.

Right. But my only point is that Jodi is not claiming that it was a crime of passion and some have opined they believe it was.

IMO, if she were as bright as some believe, she would have went with crime of passion and come up with something more plausible as to why she did it.

I mean, allegedly bright Jodi said, 'He came at me like a linebacker and screamed at me."

Seriously. WTF?

'He told me I couldn't go to Cancun and I lost it because after all the sex I let him use me for, he betrayed me etc...'

Even that would have been more believable, IMO.

The only reason I can fathom that she would go with a self defense claim is she's making good on her threat that if the State didn't accept her plea for 2nd degree, she'd smear Travis during the trial.

IMO

 

[LinasK]

Everyone is criticizing Nurmi and his defense tactics but I'm a little concerned that he might be as dumb as we all thought Bozo (Baez) was. Who would have thought that Baez could get Casey an acquittal? Certainly not me. But he did!

Baez didn't get Casey an acquittal all by himself- the jury selection had alot to do with it, starting with the idiot woman who "refused to judge people"!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::furious:

 

[StephanieW]

When were the photos of the cuts on her hand that were shown today taken?
She I thought she said they were taken with her helio phone.... She also said same phone was lost a week after phone sex tape (May 10th) ?
Or am I missing something ... Can't listen to Nurmi for long before I zone out.....

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

The best judge of a person's character is what they do when they believe no one is watching....

Peeping.
Slashing.
Hacking.
Shooting.
Stabbing.
Bludgeoning.
Gun tossing.

And who knows the rest of what she really did before and after the killing. It might scare us even more.

 

[katydid23]

To this day, Jodi admits Travis was a great person...and that she loves him.

This sounds like an abuse victim.

But I need some expert information....

But He WAS a great person. EVERYONE has stories about what a kind and generous soul he was. Including his other ex girlfriends. NONE of them have any anecdotal abuse incidents.

The experts can only tell us what other victims of abuse act like that. But that does not PROVE that she was abused by Travis, imo.

She writes about what a great guy Travis was because he was in fact, very good to her. She loved him because he was the best thing that ever happened to her. And when they broke up, she became obsessed with getting him back. And when that didn't happen , she switched to getting back at him.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Omg! Chick on jvm worked with Jodi...said Jodi would end a shift at 11pm....and often drive the 5 hours to Travis's ....was obsessed .

 

[Nali87]

Based on everything we've seen from Jodi, the girl is a LIAR and a manipulator.

I can picture Travis going: "You know what? I'm freaking out over nothing! She explained it all, this girl wouldn't really harm me physically. And she's hot in bed!"

I mean, Jodi had no prior record. He probably ignored his misgivings and told himself he was blowing it all out of proportion. Who truely expects someone you've been sleeping with to actually want to murder you?