John Ramsey moving/media -merged-

[MrsMush99]

Well, my thought at the time was that for him to get remarried so quickly after Patsy's death, he HAD to have been dating the woman while Patsy was still alive.


Any ideas on how to get a definitive answer on his possible remarriage?

It was a rumor. John Ramsey has not remarried.

 

[close_enough]

Maybe he thought with Patsy gone, it would finally be over. Now, he sees, it never will be.



"Wood [said] he talked with Ramsey for an hour Friday night and his client said he was angrier over coverage this week than he has ever been."Kind of odd, since some of the past coverage was about him killing his daughter himself.

hmm, that is odd :waitasec:

heck, if him & Patsy had fully cooperated w/LE, from the get-go, the media wouldn't have been a real problem, IMO....the Ramsey's put a brick wall betw themselves & LE, but when they wanted to have a "press conference", or give an interview, it was cool....

 

[Backwoods]

If JR had nothing to do with JB's death (and I think he didn't), I can see why this most recent media frenzy would be hard to take. You would expect the focus to be mostly on Karr but, let's admit, there has been considerable rehashing of all angles. Another thing--for the first time in a while, there has been the constant replay of images of JB on hour after hour of broadcast--I even saw one "fade" where her eyes and Karr's eyes were combined into an image together. All this not long after Patsy's death...it would pall pretty quickly.

 

[MrsMush99]

Well he wouldn't be happy with everything that happened in the past, and neither would I if I were innocent. He has made himself a public figure since the murder, however, and did run for an elected office. I did just hear on the news that the incident was regarding following him to enroll his son in college. So, in that instance, yes, the media perhaps went too far.

I agree with you. Following him is one thing. But following him while his sending his son off to college is totally inappropriate. I think the media should lay low until we find out more information. I know, I know, fat chance of that happening.

 

[Texana]

I feel sorriest for Burke. He's finally heading off to college, it should be a happy and exciting time, and he has journalists following him about his sister's death.

 

[englishleigh]

I feel sorriest for Burke. He's finally heading off to college, it should be a happy and exciting time, and he has journalists following him about his sister's death.

Yeah, and his mom just died, too. I get the feeling that Burke's entire life, almost, has been about JonBenet, except the first three years he was alive.

 

[concernedperson]

Yeah, and his mom just died, too. I get the feeling that Burke's entire life, almost, has been about JonBenet, except the first three years he was alive.

That is worrisome as his life is defined by someone else. I believe Burke was totally innocent but is caught up in a tailspin.

 

[englishleigh]

That is worrisome as his life is defined by someone else. I believe Burke was totally innocent but is caught up in a tailspin.

I absolutely believe Burke to be completely innocent. I have never doubted that. I have always felt so bad for him.

 

[BlueCrab]

John Ramsey's passport should be cancelled until this John Karr thing shakes out. Lin Wood's comment about him leaving the country because of the publcity doesn't pass the smell test. When your attorney says his client may leave the country then you can count on it probably happening, and SOON.

For instance, an unusual comment by Mary Lacy during her "press conference" on 8/17/06 gets little notice in the press. Lacy said, "John Karr and John Ramsey are presumed to be innocent." Was that a slip of the tongue?

John Karr says, "I was with JonBenet when she died." Karr implies HE didn't kill JonBenet, so there had to have been someone else in the house who DID kill her.

Is something big about John Ramsey ready to be exposed by John Karr after he gets to the U.S? If so, does it involve familial incest or worse?

Is this the real reason why John Ramsey wants to get out of Dodge?

BlueCrab

 

[englishleigh]

John Ramsey's passport should be cancelled until this John Karr thing shakes out. Lin Wood's comment about him leaving the country because of the publcity doesn't pass the smell test. When your attorney says his client may leave the country then you can count on it probably happening, and SOON.

For instance, an unusual comment by Mary Lacy during her "press conference" on 8/17/06 gets little notice in the press. Lacy said, "John Karr and John Ramsey are presumed to be innocent." Was that a slip of the tongue?

John Karr says, "I was with JonBenet when she died." Karr implies HE didn't kill JonBenet, so there had to have been someone else in the house who DID kill her.

Is something big about John Ramsey ready to be exposed by John Karr after he gets to the U.S? If so, does it involve familial incest or worse?

Is this the real reason why John Ramsey wants to get out of Dodge?

BlueCrab

Oh, geez, BC...yikes.

I did just see a very old tabloid headline while doing some searching:

 

[southcitymom]

Yeah, and his mom just died, too. I get the feeling that Burke's entire life, almost, has been about JonBenet, except the first three years he was alive.

You're probably right - what a sad thought.

 

[MysteryAddict]

John Ramsey's passport should be cancelled until this John Karr thing shakes out. Lin Wood's comment about him leaving the country because of the publcity doesn't pass the smell test. When your attorney says his client may leave the country then you can count on it probably happening, and SOON.

For instance, an unusual comment by Mary Lacy during her "press conference" on 8/17/06 gets little notice in the press. Lacy said, "John Karr and John Ramsey are presumed to be innocent." Was that a slip of the tongue?

John Karr says, "I was with JonBenet when she died." Karr implies HE didn't kill JonBenet, so there had to have been someone else in the house who DID kill her.

Is something big about John Ramsey ready to be exposed by John Karr after he gets to the U.S? If so, does it involve familial incest or worse?

Is this the real reason why John Ramsey wants to get out of Dodge?

BlueCrab

Good catch--

"John Karr and John Ramsey are presumed to be innocent."

Why would Mary Lacy even mention John Ramsey
in that press conference?

Now he talks of leaving the country?

Makes one wonder doesn't it?

 

[HeartofTexas]

If JR could be indicted for his arrogance, he'd get the death penalty, IMO...

Good one, Cappucina! If there was an Arrogance Olympics, he would bring home the Gold.

And I bet John Ramsey wasn't complaining about media coverage when he was running for office, was he?

 

[newtv]

I think it says that a man is tired of the coverage, maybe he is grieving over his wife, doesnt like the fact his son cannot go to college without people following them. I also think he will forever grieve over JBR's death. That is just what I think it says. JMO

i agree- he has had 10 years of it-he lost a daughter and a wife and everything he had..i think i would head for the hills too-he doesnt need any more of it-being hounded is not fun and he will be hounded now in a whole new way and in the same way.
Birk doesnt deserve it either-he has had his whole childhood ruined..by loss and media.
I say "get outta dodge"...

 

[cricket]

Does this sound very odd to anyone else? :waitasec: Is he setting up an excuse for a quick exit for some particular reason?

"Meanwhile, a family lawyer, Lin Wood, said JonBenet's father, John Ramsey, is outraged by the intense media attention to the case. Ramsey is said to be thinking of moving out of the country."


Outraged?? Yes, it sounds like a very odd reaction to me!!

If he played no part in the death or cover up of his daughter's death, shouldn't he be happy to think that finally her killer may have been caught?

Outraged? NO!

Happy to put up with the media in hopes of finally getting
justice for Jon Benet would make more sense.

I would be outraged if I was taking my son to college and was being followed around everywhere with microphones. That poor kid - he's grown up in the shadow of JBR, and then even on a day that should be exciting - going away to college - he can't even escape.

John Ramsey made it very clear in his press release that he was not going to speculate or talk abotu the case. If he is innocent, then he, more than anyone else, knows what it's like to be falsely accused and dragged through the mud in the media.

I would be outraged too - the media should leave him and his son alone.

 

[cricket]

John Ramsey's passport should be cancelled until this John Karr thing shakes out. Lin Wood's comment about him leaving the country because of the publcity doesn't pass the smell test. When your attorney says his client may leave the country then you can count on it probably happening, and SOON.

For instance, an unusual comment by Mary Lacy during her "press conference" on 8/17/06 gets little notice in the press. Lacy said, "John Karr and John Ramsey are presumed to be innocent." Was that a slip of the tongue?

John Karr says, "I was with JonBenet when she died." Karr implies HE didn't kill JonBenet, so there had to have been someone else in the house who DID kill her.

Is something big about John Ramsey ready to be exposed by John Karr after he gets to the U.S? If so, does it involve familial incest or worse?

Is this the real reason why John Ramsey wants to get out of Dodge?

BlueCrab

BC - not trying to pick a fight, but I just read through the transcipt of Mary Lacy's 8/17/06 news conference that is posted on the Boulder County gov't website, and she did not say what you are attributing to her.

Here are the paragraphs from her new conference that address that topic. I have posted the link to the entire transcipt at the end of this post.

part of Mary Lacy's statement:

You all have many questions that you are anxious to have answered. John Karr is presumed innocent. We are rightfully constrained by the code of professional conduct and the presumption of innocence from answering those questions today.

What I can tell you in a generic sense is that in all serious cases, we work hard with law enforcement not to make an arrest until the investigation is substantially complete.

That optimal situation best protects the rights of the suspect. There are circumstances that may exist in any case which mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete. The primary reason is public safety. A secondary reason is fear of flight. In short, exigent circumstances can drive the timing of an arrest. I am not commenting on the particular nature of this investigation or arrest.

There is a great deal of speculation and a desire for quick answer. We should all heed the poignant advice John Ramsey gave yesterday. Do not jump to judgment. Do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course.



link to entire transcript:

http://www.co.boulder.co.us/da/pr2.htm

 

[SewingDeb]

Cricket,

Lacey did say it during the question and answer portion of the press conference. The questions and answers are not included at the link you posted.

 

[Hyatt]

Well....John.....I guess you can't control the media. They're there when you want them and there when you don't.

He wouldn't be moving to Thailand, would he Mr. Wood?

You're right about the media control and I was just thinking that in fact this Karr character may turn out to be JR's worst nightmare: finally a trial on the death of JonBenet - albeit a farce. Nevertheless it could still go digging in places JR would best like forgotten. I hadn't looked at it that way before. Maybe that's what Karr wants .... we know virtually nothing FOR SURE about this guy.

JMO

 

[Jayelles]

BC - not trying to pick a fight, but I just read through the transcipt of Mary Lacy's 8/17/06 news conference that is posted on the Boulder County gov't website, and she did not say what you are attributing to her.

Here are the paragraphs from her new conference that address that topic. I have posted the link to the entire transcipt at the end of this post.

part of Mary Lacy's statement:

You all have many questions that you are anxious to have answered. John Karr is presumed innocent. We are rightfully constrained by the code of professional conduct and the presumption of innocence from answering those questions today.

What I can tell you in a generic sense is that in all serious cases, we work hard with law enforcement not to make an arrest until the investigation is substantially complete.

That optimal situation best protects the rights of the suspect. There are circumstances that may exist in any case which mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete. The primary reason is public safety. A secondary reason is fear of flight. In short, exigent circumstances can drive the timing of an arrest. I am not commenting on the particular nature of this investigation or arrest.

There is a great deal of speculation and a desire for quick answer. We should all heed the poignant advice John Ramsey gave yesterday. Do not jump to judgment. Do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course.



link to entire transcript:

http://www.co.boulder.co.us/da/pr2.htm

She certainly did say it. Go here:-

http://www.courttv.com/news/ramsey/

Click on the DA's speech video and it's at approximately 11.40 minutes.

 

[Floh]

Relentless journalists infuriate JonBenet's father

An arrest that initially brought relief to the family of JonBenet Ramsey has since unleashed an onslaught of unwelcome attention that has incensed the slain girl's father, a longtime family lawyer said Saturday.
Even as authorities were preparing to extradite John Mark Karr, a teacher who admitted involvement in the 6-year-old's death a decade ago, her father was hounded by camera crews Friday as he took his son to college at Purdue University, attorney Lin Wood said.
''He cannot go back to his home in Michigan because it is surrounded by the media,'' Wood said. ''Last night, I've never heard him so angry. He is upset. He is worried about his son's physical safety . . . I'm not sure John Ramsey will ever speak to a member of the media after what happened to him yesterday.''

More: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-karr20s1.html

I would leave the country, although one can be pursued by the media anywhere in the world nowadays.

it isn't as though he has the resources to buy Namibia like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt did.

IF authorities really do believe Ramsay guilty, i'll bet they would put a grand halt to any attempts at his leaving the country, though.

and i think if he is guilty and there is a connection to JMK and he thinks authorities will use John Mark Karr to get him, then he would have left shortly after Patsy died as he knew the arrest of JMK was imminent.