John Ramsey on Oprah

[JMO8778]

Hi Tadpole

..in DOI,John's scenario is one person and one person alone carried out this crime.he said the intruder waited in the house while they were gone,'somehow' knowing they would be gone for awhile,familiarized himself w the house,wrote the RN while waiting for them to return,then stun-gunned JB after all were asleep,and so on and so forth.
he never mentioned he suspected that more than one person was in the house.never.
but like I said,read through some of the IDI posts here,and you'll see what I mean.I suspect he got the idea here,of multiple intruders (if he wasn't the one who later came up with it in the first place!).
John criticizes the net,so that must mean we're making an impact,enough for him to bother to orchestrate..along with Lacy..this lastest nonsense,even to the point of making an appearance on Oprah.

 

[JMO8778]

Thank you.

..this book is going to be a real keeper,IMO..when ppl see what the real truth and facts are,they'll all want their own copy! I have books,and I have books...those I would never part with,like Thomas' book...I have a feeling this one is going to be the same way!

 

[armywife210]

I knew that she was off her rocker, but didn't realize just how much, until John said that about that blue dress.

The blue dress had to be made up. Think about it, with all the years that passed, styles changed drastically. Do any of us really think that she bought a blue dress way back when and planned to wear it all those years later on TV? Naw, she cared way too much about being perfect on the outside to be outdated! She might have always had something that would make her look "stunning" incase she was put in the position to be on TV again... but she didn't have the same dress all those years. IMHO

 

[JMO8778]

I wonder specifically why he said it was a *blue dress..when he could have just said a dress..

 

[JMO8778]

You know...a person has to look stylish and fabulous when being interviewed about the capture of their daughter's killer... That's almost as bad as her comparing herself to Jackie Kennedy at JB's funeral.

..I don't think Patsy lived in the real world at all..she seemed disconnected from it...like life was all Hollywood,fame and fashion,etc.
who on earth would think of dressing like JK and even acting like her at their daughter's funeral?! she wasn't even in the realm of reality.

 

[Camper]

I watched yesterday. Wonder HOW blue the blue dress was? She wore Navy blue for her first interview on National TV. Must have purchased a different shade of blue one to lug about over the years.

As an artist myself, blue has the connotation of honesty. It is recommended to be worn for job interviews to give a visual mental impression to the interviewer of what a great addition to the company, the person being interviewed would be.

No doubt Patsy as an artist had learned the psychological benefits of BLUE in the world of art and perception.

Hmmm, on Pam, she was caught up into a web of horror by just being a blood relative.

JR has no lips to speak of. A very busy tongue.

Coverup for certain. Right up there with Jack The Ripper, historically.

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[Roy23]

Popularity means nothing to us. We want justice.

There's a lot more evidence against the Ramseys than there was against Scotty.

You are living in a fantasy world that you created concerning this case. In time, when the killer is caught you will cry conspirisy when you look like a major fool. In a way you are doing that now already. I respect the time you have studied on this case but somewhere you lost your sense of reasoning just like other numerous people who prostituted themselves to try and make a buck on fiction.

The Ramsey's might be guilty of a lot of things, but they did not physically kill JBR. The DNA is solid no matter what fairy tale things that are brought up here. And one day soon you will find that out.

 

[gaia227]

I heard him when he said that...and I thought...well, what about all of those PHOTOS, not just videotape of JB and her pageants? John said that they did not own any videos of JB doing ANY of those things, playing the violin, the piano, rock climbing...and I just find that hard to believe. Goodness knows they had enough pictures of her all dolled up. And that is NOT just the media.

I don't think it is that hard to believe. I come from a family who did not own a video camera and who never took pictures. I was a piano player for years and performed in many recitals and there is not one picture of me doing so. I also played softball and basketball and again, no pictures. There are not even any pics of me graduating high school. Don't get me wrong - I come from a good family who was supportive and loving - my mom just wasn't the type to take pictures and video tape. She isn't very sentimental I guess you could say.

Now, that being said - if the pics of JBR all decked out were taken by her parents then it turns into another issue.

And please don't get me wrong I am not defending JR - I think he knows what happened to his daughter and I think he was involved in some way. I think at this point he has convinced himself otherwise.

 

[Ames]

Yes, and that goes to show you just how much that perfect facade was to PR. That she could even think, let alone state in DOI, that she selected her funeral outfit because she recalled how elegant Jacquie Kennedy looked at her husband's funeral is just astounding. She's got a dead baby in a coffin, and she'd thinking about what color looks good on TV? They are BOTH cold as snakes and twice as slippery.

I never was a big Orca fan, but lately even less so.

I know, I am not a big fan of hers either. I only watched yesterday, to count how many times John licked his lips. LOL

She just did NOT ask the right questions AT ALL! So much for her being such a "wonderful interviewer" as some people think.

 

[Ames]

I don't think it is that hard to believe. I come from a family who did not own a video camera and who never took pictures. I was a piano player for years and performed in many recitals and there is not one picture of me doing so. I also played softball and basketball and again, no pictures. There are not even any pics of me graduating high school. Don't get me wrong - I come from a good family who was supportive and loving - my mom just wasn't the type to take pictures and video tape. She isn't very sentimental I guess you could say.

Now, that being said - if the pics of JBR all decked out were taken by her parents then it turns into another issue.

And please don't get me wrong I am not defending JR - I think he knows what happened to his daughter and I think he was involved in some way. I think at this point he has convinced himself otherwise.

My family did not own a camera or cam-corder either, so the only pictures that I have of me, are the ones that were taken at school. I have a few baby pictures that someone else took of me. Fact is, the Ramsey's DID own a camera and a cam-corder, and they DID take many pictures, alot of them can been seen on maketoast.com There are pictures of JB in the snow, with pigtails on a pier, playing in her room,etc. I have seen home videos too. One with Patsy and JB, and Patsy playing with JB's hair. So, they did take alot of film of their kids. So, where are the pictures of her at the piano, or her first recital? Rock climbing? Playing the violin? They say that the reason that they did not video tape Christmas morning, '96, is because the battery was dead. To charge the battery, you plug the cam-corder into a power cord, and the other end, into an outlet. You use the power cord also, when the battery has died...it serves a dual purpose.

 

[Ames]

You are living in a fantasy world that you created concerning this case. In time, when the killer is caught you will cry conspirisy when you look like a major fool. In a way you are doing that now already. I respect the time you have studied on this case but somewhere you lost your sense of reasoning just like other numerous people who prostituted themselves to try and make a buck on fiction.

The Ramsey's might be guilty of a lot of things, but they did not physically kill JBR. The DNA is solid no matter what fairy tale things that are brought up here. And one day soon you will find that out.

Until the experts can tell us WHO put that DNA there, WHEN it got there and HOW it got there, then IMO the fairy tale IS the DNA. NOBODY can say for sure if that DNA belongs to the killer. All we know is, that it doesn't match any of the Ramseys....or so they say. She could have gotten that DNA from sitting on a toilet, or had it on her from playing with other kids at the White's party...she went to the bathroom and the dna was transferred. If I shook your hand, your Touch DNA would be on my hand. If you touched an item, and I touched it after you....then I would have your Touch DNA on me. That's how easy it transfers from one person or thing, to another. The DNA found on JB's long johns...proves nothing. Now...IF that same touch DNA was found on the garotte, the broken paint brush, the blanket that she was found wrapped in...then and only then...can we for sure say that an intruder did this.

 

[Ames]

I watched yesterday. Wonder HOW blue the blue dress was? She wore Navy blue for her first interview on National TV. Must have purchased a different shade of blue one to lug about over the years.

As an artist myself, blue has the connotation of honesty. It is recommended to be worn for job interviews to give a visual mental impression to the interviewer of what a great addition to the company, the person being interviewed would be.

No doubt Patsy as an artist had learned the psychological benefits of BLUE in the world of art and perception.

Hmmm, on Pam, she was caught up into a web of horror by just being a blood relative.

JR has no lips to speak of. A very busy tongue.

Coverup for certain. Right up there with Jack The Ripper, historically.

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I don't know, but when my daughter went for her first photo shoot, her agent told me to buy her a powder blue shirt or dress to wear, because it shows up better on film.

That is FUNNY! ROTFL

 

[Ames]

The blue dress had to be made up. Think about it, with all the years that passed, styles changed drastically. Do any of us really think that she bought a blue dress way back when and planned to wear it all those years later on TV? Naw, she cared way too much about being perfect on the outside to be outdated! She might have always had something that would make her look "stunning" incase she was put in the position to be on TV again... but she didn't have the same dress all those years. IMHO

EXTREMELY good point! As fashion conscious as Patsy was...nope, I couldn't even imagine her lugging the same blue dress around all those years, which is exactly what he said (he didn't say that she bought new ones every so often). So, what John said, doesn't even make sense. Seems we (or you) have caught John in YET ANOTHER LIE!

 

[Ames]

indeed it does.that really leads me to think she got upset over JB not liking the mytwinn doll,since JR took the time to mention in DOI that she had shrugged it off.

I am sure that after she bought that doll for JB and paid good money for it..and JB didn't like it...it probably hurt her feelings. I don't believe John when he says that she just shrugged it off. I agree...this is probably why Patsy looks as if she had been crying...because she had been. She doesn't look very happy in that picture...and she looks like she has a firm grip on JB's arm.

 

[Solace]

You are living in a fantasy world that you created concerning this case. In time, when the killer is caught you will cry conspirisy when you look like a major fool. In a way you are doing that now already. I respect the time you have studied on this case but somewhere you lost your sense of reasoning just like other numerous people who prostituted themselves to try and make a buck on fiction.

The Ramsey's might be guilty of a lot of things, but they did not physically kill JBR. The DNA is solid no matter what fairy tale things that are brought up here. And one day soon you will find that out.

Yes they did - they killed their daughter, at least one of them did. The DNA is NOT solid, as has been reported by numerous forensics.

And one other thing, besides THE plethora of evidence implicating Patsy, there is the reaction of these two, which means nothing in a court of law, but it is there for us to see and NO. 1, John would NEVER, and I mean NEVER have called 911 if he believed this note. He NEVER would have taken such a chance. HE WOULD HAVE CALLED HIS LAWYERS and they would have taken control of the situation. Just as the father of Bobby Franks did when his son was murdered by Leopold and Loep. He called his lawyer and his lawyer got in touch with the police - his reasoning - I have the contacts and i will use them.

John has the gall to say he wished the police had been more discreet. But I guess it is okay if Patsy calling her friends over is NOT discreet.

Hey, Roy, your head is positioned squarely in the sand. :blowkiss:

 

[JMO8778]

I agree,and with Tricia also...someone is going to talk one of these days,it's inevitable.It may not be until after JR passes,and thus the threat of lawsuits shoved into someone or someones face is gone,but not us nor any RDI is going to look foolish.
Roy,you say they might be 'guilty of a lot of things'..can you be more specific?
may I ask what you mean by 'one day soon you will find that out'?

 

[Roy23]

Yes they did - they killed their daughter, at least one of them did. The DNA is NOT solid, as has been reported by numerous forensics.

And one other thing, besides THE plethora of evidence implicating Patsy, there is the reaction of these two, which means nothing in a court of law, but it is there for us to see and NO. 1, John would NEVER, and I mean NEVER have called 911 if he believed this note. He NEVER would have taken such a chance. HE WOULD HAVE CALLED HIS LAWYERS and they would have taken control of the situation. Just as the father of Bobby Franks did when his son was murdered by Leopold and Loep. He called his lawyer and his lawyer got in touch with the police - his reasoning - I have the contacts and i will use them.

John has the gall to say he wished the police had been more discreet. But I guess it is okay if Patsy calling her friends over is NOT discreet.

Hey, Roy, your head is positioned squarely in the sand. :blowkiss:

I think it is funny that you think my head is in the sand. The DNA in JBR's panties matched the touch DNA in a specified area that Professional's chose to test. Game, set, match. Too many books and other information have misled others and have created a frenzy of speculation and fiction. And this case will be solved.

 

[Solace]

I think it is funny that you think my head is in the sand. The DNA in JBR's panties matched the touch DNA in a specified area that Professional's chose to test. Game, set, match. Too many books and other information have misled others and have created a frenzy of speculation and fiction. And this case will be solved.

This case has already been solved. Patsy and John did a very good job of planting misinformation. There is no murderer out there, as John says, you know the one who would do this again and again. By the way, I haven't heard of any similar crimes, have you. Didn't think so. That is because there is only one Patsy Ramsey and she already did it - it was a one time thing. She is not the premeditating sort. This is a rage incident, ending in death. Happens all the time especially to children under 10.

Oh, and this DNA you are so fond of. Would not hold up in a Court of law.

 

[Ames]

I think it is funny that you think my head is in the sand. The DNA in JBR's panties matched the touch DNA in a specified area that Professional's chose to test. Game, set, match. Too many books and other information have misled others and have created a frenzy of speculation and fiction. And this case will be solved.

You apparently did not read post #91...scroll up and read it. The Touch DNA evidence means diddly squat.

 

[BBB167893]

The blue dress had to be made up. Think about it, with all the years that passed, styles changed drastically. Do any of us really think that she bought a blue dress way back when and planned to wear it all those years later on TV? Naw, she cared way too much about being perfect on the outside to be outdated! She might have always had something that would make her look "stunning" incase she was put in the position to be on TV again... but she didn't have the same dress all those years. IMHO

You miss the point, armywife210: her kid's been killed, and she's concerned about what to wear?