Jonah Shacknai Wants Investigation Reviewed

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  • #21
My thinking is that he is requesting that someone evaluate the investigative processes that were utilized in this case, not to re-evaluate the information gleaned in the investigation itself. That's my interpretation.

Thanks. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
 
  • #22
What would be the difference between a case being re-opened and being re-evaluated? Would it be the difference between an entire new team looking into this?
There's a huge difference. If the case was reopened, new conclusions could be drawn. What JS wants is merely for the current investigative findings to be validated or not. If they were found to be questionable based on protocols used, the AG could then determine whether or not to reopen the investigation.
 
  • #23
What would be the difference between a case being re-opened and being re-evaluated? Would it be the difference between an entire new team looking into this?
I think the difference is a whether a completely new investigation to be conducted with different eyes as opposed to going over the techniques and information from the first investigation. imo
 
  • #24
Good for JS, but now the Public wants some real answers. If Rebecca Zahau was murdered, then someone needs to be arrested.
 
  • #25
I never thought he was involved anyway. Good for him.
 
  • #26
big step in the right direction. Bravo to JS for stepping up !!!
hope this will eventually bring closure for everyone once and if the investigation is re-opened.
 
  • #27
Her family is not without resources. Her father was a big figure in Burmese politics, and their family members are working. They should easily be able to come up with funds to launch a private investigation. Like I've said before, they have hired Cyril Wecht, who does not come cheap. I think they were more about courting public opinion before going for a civil suit which would mean lots of money, but that's JUST MY OPINION.

Not so sure if I would believe that they could "easily" come up with funds for this type of investigation. I am no pro, and have no idea about how expensive this could be, but I've read articles about how the family had to flea Burma for religious persecution and I wouldn't imagine that being royalty from a tribe in Burma would mean that the family is well off. It seems to me that they are trying to raise funds so that they can pay for pro's such as Cyril wecht, which I believe is what they have stated on their website. I think that the average person would have problems raising these funds....
 
  • #28
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_18936208?nclick_check=1


Shacknai says he has no reason to doubt findings by authorities in San Diego County that Zahau killed herself at his Coronado mansion two days after Shacknai's 6-year-old son accidentally fell down while under her watch. Max Shacknai died days later.
 
  • #29
Not so sure if I would believe that they could "easily" come up with funds for this type of investigation. I am no pro, and have no idea about how expensive this could be, but I've read articles about how the family had to flea Burma for religious persecution and I wouldn't imagine that being royalty from a tribe in Burma would mean that the family is well off. It seems to me that they are trying to raise funds so that they can pay for pro's such as Cyril wecht, which I believe is what they have stated on their website. I think that the average person would have problems raising these funds....

If they are as well respected, as they claim, and every Burmese immigrant gave ten bucks, they'd be able to easily pull this off. Not to mention that this is a large family with all but the youngest working. Heck, on my salary alone I could pull this off and I'm not Burmese royatly.
 
  • #30
There's a huge difference. If the case was reopened, new conclusions could be drawn. What JS wants is merely for the current investigative findings to be validated or not. If they were found to be questionable based on protocols used, the AG could then determine whether or not to reopen the investigation.

Thank you for your response.

Would only protocols come into question, or the evidence itself?
 
  • #31
If they are as well respected, as they claim, and every Burmese immigrant gave ten bucks, they'd be able to easily pull this off. Not to mention that this is a large family with all but the youngest working. Heck, on my salary alone I could pull this off and I'm not Burmese royatly.


An investigation like this would cost hundreds of thousands if not more. so I disagree with you. Unfortunately, justice IS sometimes for the rich.
 
  • #32
Well, hmmm. I just read the letter from Shacknai. Reading between the lines, he is not really asking that the investigation be reopened. He is asking that LE's protocols and investigative techniques, their methods and conclusions, be evaluated. That is a little bit different.

For those who may feel he had something to do with it, his letter may seem quite self-serving. For those who don't, it may seem that, while he supports the findings, he wants their validity proven to a skeptical public.

He wants the "investigation" looked into, to satisfy the public. Sitrick must have seen this was not going away in its half-baked condition, so the best tack is to put JS out there as supporting a re-look at the investigation. It ought to re-open the door though to see how thorough LE's methods were. Hopefully there will be some sunlight finally after that abbreviated dog and pony show SD LE tried to pull. Interesting move though by Jonah, in any case.
 
  • #33
big step in the right direction. Bravo to JS for stepping up !!!
hope this will eventually bring closure for everyone once and if the investigation is re-opened.


Ok, call me a pessimist, but I think this is a ploy. I do hope it opens up the investigation, but if Jonah really wanted to help he'd ask them to make everything public like the search warrant and call for full cooperation with the Zahau family experts and full transparency - THAT is what he should be doing, not requesting for an evaluation of procedures and such which may show nothing.

Jonah should be requesting specific things we did not see such as full crime scene recreations, reanalysis of all evidence and a report on what was and wasn't investigated, advanced analyses on evidence (such as Rebecca's phone), and divulging any other pertinent information. Doing so, would tell me he is, in fact, interested in justice for Rebecca and honoring her family's concerns. He's not.
 
  • #34
Yeah, color me skeptical. He probably had to do something, especially with word that he immediately deemed Rebecca's death a suicide and that he was then happy with an investigation with so many loopholes and unanswered questions.

In my opinion, Jonah never figured it would get this much media attention nor that the Zahau family would be able to muster the resources to mount any legal challenge. He thought it would just go away. I suspect this latest move is just for show more than anything. And, again, he hopes it will fade. I also suspect he has already talked with the SDSD about making this move to take heat off of all parties.

I have a difficult time believing that JS was surprised by the media attention after both his son and girlfriend die. Especially considering how Rebecca was found and all the questions surrounding her death... If someone wanted this tragedy to fly under the media's radar they sure went about it the wrong way.
 
  • #35
JS requested a review of the investigation, not reopening of the case. These two are different. However, if the review of the investigation showed SDPD's investigation had serious problems, it opens the door for a case reopening.

JS did the right thing.
 
  • #36
To me this stinks, a very good excuse for the police not to release the items to the family, then over time the evidence will be missing. Wanna bet?

Her family has some high prominent experts that want to look into it. If there is an investigation of any kind in this case that gives an excuse not to let one expert in, not to release any evidence and open the window for police to come up with a new and improved theory that will match better.
 
  • #37
There's a huge difference. If the case was reopened, new conclusions could be drawn. What JS wants is merely for the current investigative findings to be validated or not. If they were found to be questionable based on protocols used, the AG could then determine whether or not to reopen the investigation.

Even if the methods and thoroughness of SD LE's are found faulty, it's way too late to re-process the crime scene most likely. Once the lax work was done when the scene was hot, the primary disservice was effectuated. That was my concern from the get-go. I'd still like to see Gore and Co. chastised for subpar work, if indeed that was the case. So much evidence would have been lost though that it may just end up like the Jon Benet Ramsey mystery. Jonah's maybe trying to get in front of this and make the best of it.
 
  • #38
Ok, call me a pessimist, but I think this is a ploy. I do hope it opens up the investigation, but if Jonah really wanted to help he'd ask them to make everything public like the search warrant and call for full cooperation with the Zahau family experts and full transparency - THAT is what he should be doing, not requesting for an evaluation of procedures and such which may show nothing.

Jonah should be requesting specific things we did not see such as full crime scene recreations, reanalysis of all evidence and a report on what was and wasn't investigated, advanced analyses on evidence (such as Rebecca's phone), and divulging any other pertinent information. Doing so, would tell me he is, in fact, interested in justice for Rebecca and honoring her family's concerns. He's not.

Posted in another thread but fits here as well.

Judge Orders Some Coronado Death Search Warrants Unsealed
http://www.10news.com/news/29243040...nd_break&tmi=sand_break_1_11010209202011&ts=H
 
  • #39
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_18936208?nclick_check=1


Shacknai says he has no reason to doubt findings by authorities in San Diego County that Zahau killed herself at his Coronado mansion two days after Shacknai's 6-year-old son accidentally fell down while under her watch. Max Shacknai died days later.

So he doesn't doubt the findings of suicide but wants the investigative "techniques" re-evaluated? That PR firm needs to prep him better. IMO, their efforts are failing.
 
  • #40
I have a difficult time believing that JS was surprised by the media attention after both his son and girlfriend die. Especially considering how Rebecca was found and all the questions surrounding her death... If someone wanted this tragedy to fly under the media's radar they sure went about it the wrong way.

I agree with you but also want to add that I think that he along with the le underestimated the fact that rz's family would have the resources to gain the professionals they have gotten to help them. These are immigrants from Burma and in my opinion maybe everybody thought that they would just go away. Jmo.
 
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