JonBenet Ramson letter - written before or after + linguistics

[Holdontoyourhat]

All I can say to him is if he thinks he can prove that, good luck! He's going to need it.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Your theory holds that PR accidentally killed JBR that night. With JR's help, they covered up the accidental death and the prior abuse. They used everything from a ransom scenario to a sexual assault scenario. Their own confusion and inexperience actually led to confounding LE. They bungled their way to safety. They used their money to avoid prosecution.

OK so far?

What does my theory hold, SD?

 

[KoldKase]

[From the peanut gallery:] That's one theory. I know of others equally compelling, with the evidence we know about. opcorn:

 

[BBB167893]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

That's what I'm here for.

Your theory holds that PR accidentally killed JBR that night. With or without JR's help, they covered it up. They used everything from a ransom scenario to a sexual assault scenario. Their own confusion actually led to confounding LE. They bungled their way to safety. They used their money to avoid prosecution.

OK so far?

Not bad at all!

What does my theory hold, SD?

I realize that by answering at all, I'm probably stepping into a trap, but here goes. Your past theories have always held that there were up to three men involved, though all of them may or may not have been at the house that night, from a foreign country, who tried to kidnap her for (if memory serves) use as a child bride while at the same time really sticking it to a "big bad Yankee" in the name of the glorious revolution. Along the way, for some reason, she wound up dead. Most likely one of them couldn't control himself. But lately you seem to gravitate more toward a sex ring idea. Again, several people involved, only this time the motive is pedophilic deviance. Either way, they got out of Dodge and most likely never came back.

That about cover it?

I really don't like to fly off the handle, but how does this prove you know more than me, anyway?

 

[KoldKase]

That's what I'm here for.



Not bad at all!



I realize that by answering at all, I'm probably stepping into a trap, but here goes. Your past theories have always held that there were up to three men involved, though all of them may or may not have been at the house that night, from a foreign country, who tried to kidnap her for (if memory serves) use as a child bride while at the same time really sticking it to a "big bad Yankee" in the name of the glorious revolution. Along the way, for some reason, she wound up dead. Most likely one of them couldn't control himself. But lately you seem to gravitate more toward a sex ring idea. Again, several people involved, only this time the motive is pedophilic deviance. Either way, they got out of Dodge and most likely never came back.

That about cover it?

I really don't like to fly off the handle, but how does this prove you know more than me, anyway?

Please tell me this is a bad joke.

The person who has been telling me I'm making things up, misstating evidence, believes this?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I realize that by answering at all, I'm probably stepping into a trap, but here goes. Your past theories have always held that there were up to three men involved, though all of them may or may not have been at the house that night, from a foreign country, who tried to kidnap her for (if memory serves) use as a child bride while at the same time really sticking it to a "big bad Yankee" in the name of the glorious revolution. Along the way, for some reason, she wound up dead. Most likely one of them couldn't control himself. But lately you seem to gravitate more toward a sex ring idea. Again, several people involved, only this time the motive is pedophilic deviance. Either way, they got out of Dodge and most likely never came back.

That about cover it?

I really don't like to fly off the handle, but how does this prove you know more than me, anyway?

I know more about the date of December 25th than you.

In your theory, December 25 has meaning only that PR was supposed to be stressed out with Christmas even though it was over. Is that right?

What meaning does December 25 have in my theory?

 

[Tadpole12]

if the coroner had referenced wood particles, slivers, shards, etc. in the autopsy report. He didn't, so it can also be 'reasonably guessed' that the presence of microscopic particles and the absense of larger visual slivers indicates the particles were transferred there by means other than assault with the broken end of a paintbrush. It is truly an assumption that it ever happened.

hmmm ... that's an intruiging take on the autopsy results, Hotyh.

hmmm ... what also got me thinking about what 'we don't specifically know' was another poster's mention that JBR may have been 'sexually assaulted' / penetrated with an object more than once that night.

 

[BBB167893]

I know more about the date of December 25th than you.

Why not just skip all this Mickey Mousing around? I mean, just what is your game here?

In your theory, December 25 has meaning only that PR was supposed to be stressed out. Is that right?

More or less.

What meaning does December 25 have in my theory?

If memory serves, by doing it on Christmas, a day which would have special meaning to two supposedly (I emphasize that strongly) devout Christians, it gives it that extra nasty edge.

 

[KoldKase]

Okay then! You can take it from here, Super Dave.

And may the Force be with you!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Why not just skip all this Mickey Mousing around? I mean, just what is your game here?

Hang in there, SD.

I think anybody who calls themselves an expert on the JBR case should be an expert on December 25. Something beyond what it says on a calendar.

Does April 19 mean anything to you?

 

[Tadpole12]

I know more than you.

saber envy?

 

[Tadpole12]

Hey Holdon ...

Y'all are so intellectually FIERCE today. Tyra Banks FIERCE!

One thing for sure Holdon, you are thought provoking, to say the least.
Or atleast you provoke my thoughts.

Victoire!
http://www.ameriquebec.net/actualites/2009/02/16-victoire.qc

It's fascinating, because even in the most heated 'debate' there's a trickle down of information and disinformation, sorta filtering through all those details and it does make for? clarity.

I know y'all have rehashed these points almost to infinity and for years.... but it hasn't lost it fervour.

I respect that. It's a rare quality, and you oldschool posters have it .... the ability to be passionate.

 

[Tadpole12]

ty for the NE link: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/new_suspects_jonbenet/crime/63477

Smit’s suspect list is crucial to that renewed effort.
Pick up The ENQUIRER for a look at the prime suspects on Smit’s list!

 

[azwriter]

the 118k doesn't necessarily refer to JR's bonus.In fact,I don't think it does.It was also the amt Jeff Merrick settled with AG for..and if you read the interview,you will also find out who the three ppl (the 'SFF') were in the note (that JR helped write,IMO)...JM and friends were used because JM was known to have been upset with JR,and JR used him to try and set him up in the note.
Thomas repeated mentioned that JR kept bringing up JM's name..and he wanted to know why.It wasn't until the so-called RN was released that he was able to put 2 and 2 together..

http://www.acandyrose.com/20060830BoylesGuestJeffMerrick.htm

remember that as soon as JB's body was 'found',JR already had an explanation formed..that it was an 'inside job'.he already KNEW whom he was going to set up,and it all started in the note.

and BTW,IMO Patsy GAVE AWAY the method they used to write the RN in their book..(DOI)..when she said that she and JR both wrote a version of the liturgy of the day,which they merged together into one..and the final version contained the words 'and hence'.
Gotta love Patsy..she just never could stop confessing![/QUOTE]

Good point, it's also the way they wrote Death of Innocence. Her one chapter, him the next.
Of course as a former journalist, the first time I saw a photo of the ransom "letter" I recognized it was handwritten by someone who was familiar with writing for a publication. Its lay-out resembles a press release format. There are examples of AP style (the type of rules used for newspaper writing) throughout the "letter."
jmo

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

...really sticking it to a "big bad Yankee" in the name of the glorious revolution.

Who, or what type of person would see JR as a big bad Yankee and would do it in the name of the glorious revolution?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Hey Holdon ...

Y'all are so intellectually FIERCE today. Tyra Banks FIERCE!

One thing for sure Holdon, you are thought provoking, to say the least.
Or atleast you provoke my thoughts.

Victoire!
http://www.ameriquebec.net/actualites/2009/02/16-victoire.qc

It's fascinating, because even in the most heated 'debate' there's a trickle down of information and disinformation, sorta filtering through all those details and it does make for? clarity.

I know y'all have rehashed these points almost to infinity and for years.... but it hasn't lost it fervour.

I respect that. It's a rare quality, and you oldschool posters have it .... the ability to be passionate.

The expression "Victory!" = confrontation or competition i.e. military, political, sports

The expression "not the country that it serves" = geopolitical

"Victory!" + "not the country that it serves" = geopolitical or military confrontation, not sports

Your example uses Victory! in the geopolitical or military context.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Unlearn what you have learned.

 

[Tadpole12]

The expression "Victory!" = confrontation or competition i.e. military, political, sports

The expression "not the country that it serves" = geopolitical

"Victory!" + "not the country that it serves" = geopolitical or military confrontation, not sports .

Yes.

Your example uses Victory! in the geopolitical or military context.

Hello! That's why I posted it fer ya, Holdon.

I understand Victory! factions, crazies and terrorism, mon chum!
No probs there.

 

[KoldKase]

Pam Paugh told a reporter, when Patsy died, "Patsy has her victory."

Is Pam in a foreign faction? Maybe she did it!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Cmon SD you can do it. There's something I knew about December 25 trivia that you didn't, right?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Yes.



Hello! That's why I posted it fer ya, Holdon.

I understand Victory! factions, crazies and terrorism, mon chum!
No probs there.

How about you Tad, do you know any December 25 trivia? Am I the only one?