Jose Baez rejected by Florida Bar on first try (Orlando & Miami News Articles)

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  • #141
Hmmm! Why am I not surprised? This sounds like something that would be right up JB's alley!
:waitasec:

Seriously! The only thing that REALLY surprises me is...That It Took So Long To Put It All Together!!!
He is just what he appears to be imho...a SHADY SHYSTER :loser: Being Hispanac has NOTHING whatsover to do with anything and JB should be ashamed of himself for even trying play that card! :hand:
 
  • #142
Quote from the OS article -- "According to the Supreme Court summary of the case, the Board of Bar Examiners filed formal allegations against J.A.B. in September 1998. In addition to unpaid child support, a personal bankruptcy and default on a student loan, the investigators said he left out parts of his history, including that he wrote a bad check and entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction."

If JB entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction for a "bad check", doesn't it make sense that this was a little more than a simple NSF? I've mistakenly written a few NSF's in my time, and nobody ever mentioned trying to convict me of anything. Kinda makes you wonder just what was he about to be convicted of?

This is very true...hmmm..it does make you wonder, doesn't it?
 
  • #143
Bold by me.

Excellent points, Paintr.

I'm reminded of so many little indignities just within in the court itself: being mouthy with Ashton and saying, 'Are you mad?'; the pen incident; the smuggled bracelet incident, etc.

I'm sure there are many defense lawyers who are not pleased to be lumped in with the likes of JB - personally or professionally.


Yep...so many indignities! I know two wrongs don't make a right, but JB irritates me so much that the spiteful part of my personality wants to say to him "Are you MAD (about this article coming out)?" :croc:
 
  • #144
Seriously! The only thing that REALLY surprises me is...That It Took So Long To Put It All Together!!!
He is just what he appears to be imho...a SHADY SHYSTER :loser: Being Hispanac has NOTHING whatsover to do with anything and JB should be ashamed of himself for even trying play that card! :hand:

ITA!!!! Why did it take so long????
 
  • #145
I don't see what Hispanic population has to do with anything. Yes, JB is Hispanic. So are alot of people in Central Florida. A good chunk of CF is Hispanic. Folks here can care less that he is Hispanic.

However, if he wanted to make race an issue, the could try to save the "white" woman. And blame it on the unfound Hispanic woman.. and take the case to the Rural, racist areas of FL. And yes, we do have such backwater places. Around 2000 there alot of talk about a town in the Panhandle that still practiced segeration.

Yep...sadly it's alive and well here in the Panhandle of Florida. There are some extremely rural and backwoods areas up around here. It's a whole different culture up in some places. However, our Hispanic population has increased due to all the hurricanes we've been hit with in the last few years. Workers from Mexico and Central American came for work to rebuild after hurricanes Ivan, Dennis, and even Katrina hit (half of them illegal) and lots of them stayed after the rebuilding was completed and have set up home and had families. In all honesty I think the trial should be moved up here somewhere (wishful thinking on my part) because while we do get news out of CF, our news stations and local paper rarely cover anything anymore regarding this case. Lots of people around here know very little about this case actually (I'm in NW Florida).
 
  • #146
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,3439656.story



For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other "financial irresponsibility" up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law."

I have absolutely no sympathy for Mr Baez. Considering what has come to light since this case began (mostly from his own actions and statements in public), he still shows mo respect for the Judge, the court, other lawyers or people in general. I doubt if his playing the 'race card' endears him to other Hispanic people.

If Mr Baez wants to be reviewed favourably by the courts, fellow Hispanics, the media and the public in general, perhaps he should concentrate on doing his job, quietly, with dignity, and to the best of his ability.

A legal trial that ends in a life or death decision for the client has no room for grandstanding, personal ego, extravagant financial advancement, or games.

Hopefully the Florida Bar Review will take care of Mr Baez's problems and defense lawyers everywhere can breath a sigh of relief that no one is making their jobs even harder.

Amen sistah! (I think?) Great Post :clap:
 
  • #147
Quote from the OS article -- "According to the Supreme Court summary of the case, the Board of Bar Examiners filed formal allegations against J.A.B. in September 1998. In addition to unpaid child support, a personal bankruptcy and default on a student loan, the investigators said he left out parts of his history, including that he wrote a bad check and entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction."

If JB entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction for a "bad check", doesn't it make sense that this was a little more than a simple NSF? I've mistakenly written a few NSF's in my time, and nobody ever mentioned trying to convict me of anything. Kinda makes you wonder just what was he about to be convicted of?

If a check is written on a closed account, it's far more serious than a simple NSF check. It shows intent to defraud. I have a feeling that's what he did.
 
  • #148
I don't see what Hispanic population has to do with anything. Yes, JB is Hispanic. So are alot of people in Central Florida. A good chunk of CF is Hispanic. Folks here can care less that he is Hispanic.

Because he brings up the fact that he is Hispanic any chance he can and tries to use that as a crutch for being picked apart. People probably could care less that he is but according to him they do based on how often he plays that card. Basically, he is making it a bigger deal than everyone else. I know that CF has a large Hispanic population but Miami is known for having one of the largest. From what I know there has never been a Hispanic lead attorney on a high profile case (I could be wrong tho) and I think in his weird little mind he is hoping his fellow Hispanics will want to help him win it. So that's what I think it has to do with.
 
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Doesn't it make you wonder a few things?

1. Was TL so confident that the DP wouldn't be put back on the table that he just put himself and his articles right out there?
2. Does he regret not being able to sit now?
3. Even if he could step back in to first chair, would he? Especially after being exposed to JB's 'ethics' first hand?

I wish the bar could depose two people in regards to JB:

Mark Nejame & JB's ex wife. :D :D :D

I would imagine that the BAR could very easily depose MN. he is a respected member of the bar in good standing who has had direct non adversarial contact with JB, yet has not been under any contracts or agreements with JB. So he is not bound by any priveleges. Remember MN worked for the A's, NOT KC. It has long been speculated that a major reason for his departure was they were expecting him to act in KC's interests and not G and C's. MN could and probably would freely answer any and all questions the bar puts to him regarding what he witnessed of dealings in the KC case, so long as it does not directly relate to his clients G & C. he probably has a strict obligation to do so as a member of the bar.

One other thought regarding JB's mysterious non profit charities. Does anyone know if any tax documents have ever been filed for them? Non profits and not for profits have much higher tax filing requirements, and much of those filings are public record. A non profit cannot have secret or private income. By its nature it must be subject to some degree of public revue. While you would not be able to get detailed accounting, you could at least determine if they filed in any of the given years, and what their rough net worth of income and assets were. To be a non profit and gain the tax benefits, you have to be willing to publicly say what you are doing with the money.
 
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Wow! I just read part two!

Quote from part two of the OS article:

"In refusing to be interviewed, Baez issued a statement chiding the Sentinel for writing about him. Commenting on recent coverage, it said "your discrimination against a young, hard-working Hispanic lawyer who represents a high-profile client borders on racism. I wonder what reactions this profile on a prominent Hispanic lawyer will have on your readership."

O M G!! UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE! I'm at a loss for words here! WHAT IS THIS GUY'S PROBLEM?
 
  • #153
Wow! I just read part two!

Quote from part two of the OS article:

"In refusing to be interviewed, Baez issued a statement chiding the Sentinel for writing about him. Commenting on recent coverage, it said "your discrimination against a young, hard-working Hispanic lawyer who represents a high-profile client borders on racism. I wonder what reactions this profile on a prominent Hispanic lawyer will have on your readership."

O M G!! UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE! I'm at a loss for words here! WHAT IS THIS GUY'S PROBLEM?


to much kool-aid..and i JUST bet he didnt make it on the first try.. now we know why...
andddddddddddddd

Gypsy Road

cinderella was a great hair band.. now i have that song stuck in my head... :clap:
 
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Old interview Baez did back in August 2008

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl-3H2chev0
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MZHB2IDc4

In Part 2 he clearly says "he past the bar first try".

Maybe he did. He's likely referring to the Florida Bar EXAM. Not only does one have to pass the actual TEST you have to be investigated and deemed acceptable by the Florida Bar Examiners. That part must have been the hitch.

Strangely enough, when I first heard that it took him 8 years to be accepted I ASSumed he just did not pass his written test (remember John John Kennedy took multiple tries to pass his State's Bar). To hear that the Florida Bar Examiners and the Florida Supreme Court declined his admission due to the reasons mentioned is even worse (in my opinion) than failing the written test.

To put it personally, if I failed a written test I would feel STUPID. If I was told I did not have the proper moral character I would feel SHADY.
 
  • #157
Baez has characterized the scrutiny and criticism he faces as an unavoidable consequence of his job. He also describes himself as a standard-bearer for future Hispanic lawyers.

"And I will not embarrass those that come after me by doing something as foolish and as unethical as what ... I've been accused of," he said outside the courthouse in January.


I wonder if the future tense here is used in error. :)
 
  • #158
to much kool-aid..and i JUST bet he didnt make it on the first try.. now we know why...
andddddddddddddd

Gypsy Road

cinderella was a great hair band.. now i have that song stuck in my head... :clap:

Yup...and the Cat is out of the Bag! Now we know the REAL reason there was such a huge time lapse (8 years) from when he graduated law school until the time he was admitted to the Florida Bar! I wonder if he did indeed pass the exam on the first try? I mean, who wouldn't when you have eight years (!!8 YEARS PEOPLE!!) to study for it? :crazy:

P. S. Gypsy Road was the song blarring from my stereo when I signed up here at WS. When I couldn't think of a hat off the top of my head - I stole the title for my name. At the time I only had one Cinderella CD (I never really listened to them much in the early 90's for some reason although I always have liked their songs and had their 2nd CD) - Since then (only a few months ago) I've bought all 4 studio versions and all of their live CD's. I'm a Cinderella late bloomer I guess! Sorry O/T!:blowkiss:
 
  • #159
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,3439656.story



For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other "financial irresponsibility" up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law."

I have absolutely no sympathy for Mr Baez. Considering what has come to light since this case began (mostly from his own actions and statements in public), he still shows mo respect for the Judge, the court, other lawyers or people in general. I doubt if his playing the 'race card' endears him to other Hispanic people.

If Mr Baez wants to be reviewed favourably by the courts, fellow Hispanics, the media and the public in general, perhaps he should concentrate on doing his job, quietly, with dignity, and to the best of his ability.

A legal trial that ends in a life or death decision for the client has no room for grandstanding, personal ego, extravagant financial advancement, or games.

Hopefully the Florida Bar Review will take care of Mr Baez's problems and defense lawyers everywhere can breath a sigh of relief that no one is making their jobs even harder.


(Bolded by me)- Well said, I couldn't agree with you more. :clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #160
Your probably right the the great sleuthers here would have probably figured that out by now:crazy:. I still think they knew each other before this i just wish i knew how.MOO:banghead:

Nevermind the great slueths here, some big mouth would have already spilled the beans ..

If Casey were an escort, you can be sure that's a secret that someone would have blabbed!
I don't think Casey and Baez knew each other, I think Baez just wiggled himself into her life ..
He needed a case .
 
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