Judge issues restraining order to not let BC sell assets

[RaleighNC]

Since NC is an at will employment state - Cisco needs no reason to fire him. Additionally, it appears that he never returned from the office and only worked from home. Cisco has a responsibility to their OTHER employees, too.

With the current economic conditions, why would you put someone on leave and continue to pay their medical / life and disability insurances, contribute to their 401K and even pay a portion of their salary? It's quite possible that his job being eliminated would save someone elses that actually has to support themselves or their family.

If you are unable to show up for work for months - and it's not a medical or "family leave" type situation, then just because you are white collar, I don't understand why he should stay. If he were digging ditches, this would have been a no brainer and he'd have been gone on day 2 of his incarceration.

I am sure Cisco is doing the HR and Legal CYA mambo, but this one should be pretty clear cut.

 

[CyberPro]

Since NC is an at will employment state - Cisco needs no reason to fire him. Additionally, it appears that he never returned from the office and only worked from home. Cisco has a responsibility to their OTHER employees, too.

With the current economic conditions, why would you put someone on leave and continue to pay their medical / life and disability insurances, contribute to their 401K and even pay a portion of their salary? It's quite possible that his job being eliminated would save someone elses that actually has to support themselves or their family.

If you are unable to show up for work for months - and it's not a medical or "family leave" type situation, then just because you are white collar, I don't understand why he should stay. If he were digging ditches, this would have been a no brainer and he'd have been gone on day 2 of his incarceration.

I am sure Cisco is doing the HR and Legal CYA mambo, but this one should be pretty clear cut.

Raleigh,

All other considerations aside, BC is a CCIE for VOIP. This is a very hard certification to attain, and they do not just grow on trees. This COULD help explain why they are keeping him on the payroll.

CyberPro

 

[ncsu95]

A PI too don't forget. Dunno Star -but he sure has rung up a bill and in doing so the Rentz's have as well. Considering he now sits in jail, I suspect they are entitled to re-coup their costs from him instead of letting him pith it away or give it away.

Why are they entitled to recoup their costs?

 

[ncsu95]

What right does Cisco have to fire BC? Perhaps he is on administrative leave where he collects a portion of his salary only. Cisco is certainly treating this situation as "innocent till proven guilty" in my opinion.

It's a right to work state. They don't need a reason to fire BC.

 

[ncsu95]

Wondering... how is he going to pay his lawyers? What amount did he rack up with them? Did he attempt to pay them and that is what the Rentzs are referring to his having spent?

I agree with you...he spent quite a bit defending the custody case. Was that unreasonable?

 

[ncsu95]

I like the way the Plaintiffs stated that Brad "currently has no living expenses". LOL That must have raised his blood pressure when he read that! haha

I found that funny too.

 

[ncsu95]

Since NC is an at will employment state - Cisco needs no reason to fire him. Additionally, it appears that he never returned from the office and only worked from home. Cisco has a responsibility to their OTHER employees, too.

With the current economic conditions, why would you put someone on leave and continue to pay their medical / life and disability insurances, contribute to their 401K and even pay a portion of their salary? It's quite possible that his job being eliminated would save someone elses that actually has to support themselves or their family.

If you are unable to show up for work for months - and it's not a medical or "family leave" type situation, then just because you are white collar, I don't understand why he should stay. If he were digging ditches, this would have been a no brainer and he'd have been gone on day 2 of his incarceration.

I am sure Cisco is doing the HR and Legal CYA mambo, but this one should be pretty clear cut.

Seems to me that most people on here would want Cisco to keep paying him. If they fire him, there goes the insurance and child support the Rentz family wants.

 

[ohiogirl]

I wonder why the parents never asked for support $$ during the custody hearing.
Also, wondering if the reason he was arrested so quickly was because he was liquidating assets in order to leave the country. JMo of course

 

[SleuthyGal]

The only wrinkle with Cisco is that their worldwide headquarters are in San Jose, CA and they might be going with that state's rules in determining how and when to terminate. Either way, he's going to eventually lose his job, it's just a matter of time. There's also a company code of conduct, and while it doesn't specifically talk about murder, I'm pretty sure that being indicted for first-degree murder is against their code in some way.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I wonder why the parents never asked for support $$ during the custody hearing.
Also, wondering if the reason he was arrested so quickly was because he was liquidating assets in order to leave the country. JMo of course

There was a financial stipulation in place where he was to reimburse certain expenses. He gave the Listers (or sent them) a cashier's check and they discussed during the custody hearing that the check had not yet cleared (but that it was indeed a cashier's check and not a personal check, so it wasn't his fault the check funds had not yet gone through). I don't know if he paid for everything he was supposed to pay for or not (they didn't get into that level of detail).

 

[SleuthyGal]

Seems to me that most people on here would want Cisco to keep paying him. If they fire him, there goes the insurance and child support the Rentz family wants.

I'm not sure people on this board have a particularly strong feeling about that either way--it's up to the company to make the call. However, I bet the other Cisco employees would have an opinion about this since the company often goes through hiring freezes and occasional RIFs.

 

[raisincharlie]

Why are they entitled to recoup their costs?

Considering Brad agreed to pay half the cost of travel and expenses on July 25th - he didn't and the check didn't clear - he is responsible to uphold the agreement he made. Civil court often results in the one that loses pays the bill - normal.

 

[ncsu95]

Considering Brad agreed to pay half the cost of travel and expenses on July 25th - he didn't and the check didn't clear - he is responsible to uphold the agreement he made. Civil court often results in the one that loses pays the bill - normal.

We don't know that the check hasn't cleared. We do know it hadn't cleared a month ago.

 

[raisincharlie]

We don't know that the check hasn't cleared. We do know it hadn't cleared a month ago.

True enough - quess we'll find out. Most unusual for a cashiers check to not clear since it is drawn on a bank not a person.

 

[jumpstreet]

Most unusual for a cashiers check to not clear since it is drawn on a bank not a person.

Perhaps in today's economy times... the reliability of a cashier's check just ain't what it used to be...

 

[raisincharlie]

Perhaps in today's economy times... the reliability of a cashier's check just ain't what it used to be...

Are you suggesting banks are not honoring drafts against them after they have taken the payment for said draft? I don't think so, even today.

 

[jumpstreet]

Are you suggesting banks are not honoring drafts against them after they have taken the payment for said draft? I don't think so, even today.

Don't panic RC... (and note the smiley on my initial post)...
Otoh... who knows... desperate times... desperate measures, and all that jazz...

 

[Albert]

Raleigh,

All other considerations aside, BC is a CCIE for VOIP. This is a very hard certification to attain, and they do not just grow on trees. This COULD help explain why they are keeping him on the payroll.

CyberPro

Yes, instead of outsourcing support to India for VoIP perhaps Cisco could save a ton of money for shareholders by now being able to outsource to the Prison system. I am not sure how many VoIP CCIE's are in prison but it takes just 1 to start training their fellow inmates.

 

[jumpstreet]

Yes, instead of outsourcing support to India for VoIP perhaps Cisco could save a ton of money for shareholders by now being able to outsource to the Prison system. I am not sure how many VoIP CCIE's are in prison but it takes just 1 to start training their fellow inmates.

I like this proposal on several levels...
... the income stream remains, so the family might get more of the child support $ they seem to be in need of...
... the incarcerated can continue to keep their skills sharp, and contribute productively to society (beats making license plates)
... teleworking infrastructure will need to be installed in the prison systems, which would help the bottom line of a company which makes networking equipment...

It's a great idea Albert... genius!

 

[reddress58]

I like this proposal on several levels...
... the income stream remains, so the family might get more of the child support $ they seem to be in need of...
... the incarcerated can continue to keep their skills sharp, and contribute productively to society (beats making license plates)
... teleworking infrastructure will need to be installed in the prison systems, which would help the bottom line of a company which makes networking equipment...

It's a great idea Albert... genius!

It IS a great idea for all the reasons Jump mentioned. I know there are a lot of USELESS thugs in prison; but there are also talented ones...so why not put them to work helping society? After all, we tax payers are spending to keep them alive; this would be their way of paying us back.