Judge Orders Bush Administration to Resume Paying for Katrina Housing

[2sisters]

Back to the subject at hand. Instead of just paying people to stay away(that's what I get out of it when I hear FEMA is paying your rent in other cities) why not give that money instead to get people back. Get people out of FEMA campers. We are supposed to have sever weather tonight, every time this happens those FEMA trailer residents are told to leave their trailer for someplace safer. Leave and go where? Get the schools cleaned up. Last week a few schools were closed b/c the didn't have heat. Get energy costs more affordable, do something about the crime. To me New Orleans is completley unappealing at this point.

 

[Marthatex]

Are you kidding me? you are kidding right? It hit blacks disproportionately hard?!?
Blacks didn't suffer more than any other race. you have no idea what you are talking about. The suffering and loss was felt by all races equally. I do not have the demographics but St. Bernard and Plaqumines the majority of people are non black. Harrison county MS I think has a pretty even number, hancock I would say is majority white. In the end it all evens out.

But other socioeconomic groups or races may have had more ability to RECOVER - bounce back.

Many elderly were devasted by Katrina. Do we want to take away their little trailers too? Maybe we should ask the recipients whether they want to stay in a trailer a while longer or not?

 

[2sisters]

But other socioeconomic groups or races may have had more ability to RECOVER - bounce back.

Many elderly were devasted by Katrina. Do we want to take away their little trailers too? Maybe we should ask the recipients whether they want to stay in a trailer a while longer or not?

I am saying to get them in better housing in New Orleans. I am not saying they need to be kicked out and on the street living in a box. The trailers are dangerous and a joke. See my above post about people being asked to get out of their trailers for tonight

 

[Nova]

Back to the subject at hand. Instead of just paying people to stay away(that's what I get out of it when I hear FEMA is paying your rent in other cities) why not give that money instead to get people back. Get people out of FEMA campers. We are supposed to have sever weather tonight, every time this happens those FEMA trailer residents are told to leave their trailer for someplace safer. Leave and go where? Get the schools cleaned up. Last week a few schools were closed b/c the didn't have heat. Get energy costs more affordable, do something about the crime. To me New Orleans is completley unappealing at this point.

These sound like good suggestions to me, 2. I hope somebody is working on this. (Of course, people have to have something to come back to; otherwise, they will have to stay in temporary quarters elsewhere.)

 

[Marthatex]

I am saying to get them in better housing in New Orleans. I am not saying they need to be kicked out and on the street living in a box. The trailers are dangerous and a joke. See my above post about people being asked to get out of their trailers for tonight

Well, good. I'm all for it. But the Judge is saying FEMA needs to do a better job.

The above is not what I thought you said in your original posts on this thread; but I'll re-read.

 

[2sisters]

Well, good. I'm all for it. But the Judge is saying FEMA needs to do a better job.

The above is not what I thought you said in your original posts on this thread; but I'll re-read.

I don't feel like rent needs to be paid still and I feel that the FEMA trailers need to be gone and replaced with permanent housing, or do more to get them back in the old houses they lived in. Jsut to give you a little summary

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

This may be a stupid question that everyone else already knows, but I haven't really read anything on this.

Does anyone know what the trailer park residents do during the day? I have no idea how many are elderly, families with small children, disabled and abled. Just a thought - does the local gov't or anything have any types of programs available to transport (assuming most don't have cars? I really don't know) a group of able-bodied workers to local areas to do some of the inner-city improvements, etc. ? I was thinking something along the lines of a community-based program similar to Habitat for Humanity, where the community is helping the community at large with improvements? Kinda sweat equity in their own community?

If not, I would think that would be something that is a possibility. I've known church groups here that have sent people down there for weeks at a time (as others have posted as well, I believe)...and many of the homeowners have been so very thankful just for clean-up help, etc. It would be nice to know if those that could help, that can't find a local job, could help out in that area. Or...take some rundown buildings (i.e., old warehouse turned into residential lofts, that are becoming more and more common), clean them up, and "earn" sweat equity and get several month's rent free because of it? Ya know, help others in order to help themselves?

Okay, just throwing it out there! May sound silly...or it may already be done. Has anyone heard anything of any similar projects (or...what was Brad Pitt's idea?)

 

[windovervocalcords]

This may be a stupid question that everyone else already knows, but I haven't really read anything on this.

Does anyone know what the trailer park residents do during the day? I have no idea how many are elderly, families with small children, disabled and abled. Just a thought - does the local gov't or anything have any types of programs available to transport (assuming most don't have cars? I really don't know) a group of able-bodied workers to local areas to do some of the inner-city improvements, etc. ? I was thinking something along the lines of a community-based program similar to Habitat for Humanity, where the community is helping the community at large with improvements? Kinda sweat equity in their own community?

If not, I would think that would be something that is a possibility. I've known church groups here that have sent people down there for weeks at a time (as others have posted as well, I believe)...and many of the homeowners have been so very thankful just for clean-up help, etc. It would be nice to know if those that could help, that can't find a local job, could help out in that area. Or...take some rundown buildings (i.e., old warehouse turned into residential lofts, that are becoming more and more common), clean them up, and "earn" sweat equity and get several month's rent free because of it? Ya know, help others in order to help themselves?

Okay, just throwing it out there! May sound silly...or it may already be done. Has anyone heard anything of any similar projects (or...what was Brad Pitt's idea?)

It's a good idea. It is hard to pull off. We have been trying to get something going in our own community.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

It's a good idea. It is hard to pull off. We have been trying to get something going in our own community.

Yes, monumental to say the least. But I figured they could "start small" and build from there. Some incentive for rebuilding, etc...and pride of ownership, etc.

I wish your community luck on any programs they have, as well. Even in our area, some areas need help. I know our City has a program for first-time homeowners with incentives to "work off" some of the down payment $$$, etc. I just thought it would be great to see those in FEMA trailers (and other hurricane victims) who really do want and need some assistance, to have opportunities.

 

[windovervocalcords]

actually looks forward to the trip.

"I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I speak the truth, and they never believe me."
Author: Di Cavour

 

[Marthatex]

This may be a stupid question that everyone else already knows, but I haven't really read anything on this.

Does anyone know what the trailer park residents do during the day? I have no idea how many are elderly, families with small children, disabled and abled. Just a thought - does the local gov't or anything have any types of programs available to transport (assuming most don't have cars? I really don't know) a group of able-bodied workers to local areas to do some of the inner-city improvements, etc. ? I was thinking something along the lines of a community-based program similar to Habitat for Humanity, where the community is helping the community at large with improvements? Kinda sweat equity in their own community?

If not, I would think that would be something that is a possibility. I've known church groups here that have sent people down there for weeks at a time (as others have posted as well, I believe)...and many of the homeowners have been so very thankful just for clean-up help, etc. It would be nice to know if those that could help, that can't find a local job, could help out in that area. Or...take some rundown buildings (i.e., old warehouse turned into residential lofts, that are becoming more and more common), clean them up, and "earn" sweat equity and get several month's rent free because of it? Ya know, help others in order to help themselves?

Okay, just throwing it out there! May sound silly...or it may already be done. Has anyone heard anything of any similar projects (or...what was Brad Pitt's idea?)

Your questions aren't stupid, and you're not silly. Well, not very often.

If you PM me, I'll give you Brad's number.

 

[Marthatex]

actually looks forward to the trip.

"I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I speak the truth, and they never believe me."
Author: Di Cavour

He he; I thought the first part of diplomacy was really listening to the question, my self.

 

[windovervocalcords]

He he; I thought the first part of diplomacy was really listening to the question, my self.

I must acknowledge, once and for all, that the purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis. ~Star Trek, Mr. Spock

 

[windovervocalcords]

He he; I thought the first part of diplomacy was really listening to the question, my self.

Diplomacy is not an end in itself if it does not advance U.S. interests.
John Bolton

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Your questions aren't stupid, and you're not silly. Well, not very often.

If you PM me, I'll give you Brad's number.

Oh good, PM's on it's way
I'll tell Angie you said hello and sent your regards :crazy:

 

[2sisters]

Ok, back on the topic of housing, not making fun of other posters guys. be nice. Give some good suggestions about N.O., lets please get back on track.

 

[Marthatex]

Nope, Wind, go look it up in another book.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Nope, Wind, go look it up in another book.

What?
For general interest...this is one of those dumb are you a racist tests.
http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=12925561706718549677

 

[Marthatex]

Oh good, PM's on it's way
I'll tell Angie you said hello and sent your regards :crazy:

Ha ha.

Actually I thought Bush Sr./Clinton were supposed to be the authority on all this.

Actually maybe I will call my friend who owns and Bed & Breakfast on Napolean Ave. and she could update me on all the goings on. I do have an information pipeline, I just haven't been connected of late.

 

[Marthatex]

Ok, back on the topic of housing, not making fun of other posters guys. be nice. Give some good suggestions about N.O., lets please get back on track.

You know what; I will If I knew that much about it , which I really don't.

However, I think I will call up my pipeline. Back to you tomorrow. I'm very serious. I don't like to propose Ideas I know nothing about, or who's doing what down there.

How much Federal monies haven't been used yet, and is there an outline for using them?

Are insurance companies coming through with their payments to owners yet; I know that's been a hangup - hence delay in declaring federal monies for certain projects.

How much was raised by charities and what is it being spent for?

Are the levees being repaired properly and will they hold? Is it worth it to rebuilld the houses?

Are the houses and buildings being redesigned and rebuilt for higher ground?

Are job training programs being offered to those displaced from their jobs in New Orleans? Are jobs being recreated?

Are families being encouraged to stay together, rather than be displaced to other cities where they may not be able to make a living or adjust?

Are people who lost their famlies being given psychological treatment; are the elderly being placed in appropriate facilities?

Are hospitals and other facilities being rebuilt and reopened?

Why haven't many neighborhoods or ruined homes been even cleared out?

Why on earth hasn't more been done in 18 months?

I thank the Lord every day I didn't live in New Orleans when Katrina struck; but who knows, something could happen to me, we have tornadoes here all the time.