Just the facts, ma'am.

[Patty G]

Bumping up!

 

[NancyA]

Thanks for the welcome back! Has it really been that crazy and confusing?! I think I've managed to pick up the following facts:

- CS out, with a public explanation that she and JT didn't see eye to eye; she still believes parents are innocent
- New guy in (forget his name), has commented about case in press prior to being retained; he is prestigious
- MW confirms Jersey is her ex boyfriend (there's an odd couple lol)
- MW has phone taken by FBI
- DBs brother PN is confirmed as grocery store brother
- PN may or may not have been sleeping it off at the Irwin/Bradley home the night of the disappearance

Are all these true? Anything else I missed?

You didn't miss much and summed it up all very nicely too thanks!

There have been conflicting accounts about/from the drinking buddy neighbour and when/if she and/or her daughter saw the baby that evening, another neighbour came forward with more info about Jersey's movements that evening re sprinklers being left on late etc, the info from MW stuff about the time of the phone call and DB having the number written on her hand are her word only as yet ie unconfirmed by LE.

 

[Gardenlady]

Ah yes, the sprinklers. I can't figure that one out! Can someone give just the facts on the sprinklers, the neighbors (who, and which house), and Jersey?

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Ah yes, the sprinklers. I can't figure that one out! Can someone give just the facts on the sprinklers, the neighbors (who, and which house), and Jersey?

I'll test my memory and see how bad I am!

Neighbour 1= Mary Hurt? She saw Jersey earlier on the Monday during the day attending to the sprinklers. They were still on when she went out on a errand(9:30PM?) and when she came back(11:00PM?)they were off.
She assumed Jersey came back to switch them off.

Neighbour 2=The Watson's? The house with the sprinklers. They were out of town at the time but came back a day or two later and allowed LE to search the house and take footprint casts.

The location of the above neighbours is I think the opposite side to DB and a bit further down the street in the direction of N Brighton.

This all from memory though! I could be as bad as Motorcycle guy seems to be.:floorlaugh:

 

[Gardenlady]

You both did great, thank you! Much more helpful than motorcycle man! :tyou:

 

[nursebeeme]

credit goes to mountain kat for finding this snip in the below article from today:

detectives did admit each search done had recovered evidence helpful to the investigation.
Police have not said what evidence they found.


Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...ter-still-no-sign-of-Lisa-irwin#ixzz1cjzpLcYd

 

[Mountain_Kat]

credit goes to mountain kat for finding this snip in the below article from today:

Just trying to earn myself some "bad girl" leniency, Nurse.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Okay, here (at the 4:11 mark) we learn that the Watson home is, in fact, the "sprinkler house". And that house is not on N Lister, but on N Chelsea:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK91LdOmE40"]Lisa Irwin: Prime News 11/1/11 - YouTube[/ame]

ETA: Hi Nursie...see what I did there?

 

[Elley Mae]

The reason you are confused is because people are asserting things without providing links.

IF Mrs. Watson is the sprinkler house, then she lives on N Chelsea. IF Mrs. Watson is the next door neighbor of the sprinkler house, then the sprinkler house must still be on N Chelsea.

If someone wants to post a link to Watson's statements, that would be extremely helpful in clearing up alot of the confusion.

Mountain Kat I found this

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK91LdOmE40"]Lisa Irwin: Prime News 11/1/11 - YouTube[/ame]

At 4:40 they talk about Mrs. Watson and the sprinklers

 

[nursebeeme]

dumpster confiscation:

local poster indamiddle says the dumpster has not been seen since
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7308668&postcount=123"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Dumpster Fire - related to Lisa's disappearance?[/ame]

 

[Nore]

Ok, we have a lot of speculation, a lot of rumors and some facts mixed in. It's getting kind of hard to tell the difference with all that has been 'reported', misreported and speculated. What do we know are the actual FACTS of this case so far?

1. Baby Lisa is missing

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wvjules; you are so right. Amen!!!! :seeya:

 

[nursebeeme]

peeps.... this thread was started for the facts.. so I am going to move all the dumpster sleuthing to the dumpster thread... and when you guys get a firm fact you can bring it here... thanks peeps.. you all rock!

 

[Madeleine74]

FACT

1. Lisa's biological parents are DB and JI.
2. Lisa's parents claim Lisa is missing.
3. A cadaver dog brought into the DB/JI home 'hit' on an area near the parents' bed.

 

[Wendy101]

So many rumors around here are my 2 truths so far.

1. Lisa Irwin is missing.

2. DB is the mother of Lisa Irwin.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Regarding JB (the husband of SB):

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-says

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

 

[Wendy101]

Regarding Jersey

Kansas City Police Department spokesman Steve Young said he could not discuss investigators interviews with Wright. However, Young did say the man known as "Jersey" has been interviewed and cleared of any involvement in the baby's disappearance.


"We spoke to him and are moving on," Young said.



http://www.kctv5.com/story/15919668/womans-cell-phone-connected-to-search-for-missing-baby

 

[Jacie Estes]

As of 11/15/11 JI/DB have not been charged with a crime.

 

[krimekat]

remember this thread?

Do these "facts" still hold true?

 

[Donjeta]

remember this thread?

Do these "facts" still hold true?

There has been very little new news since the thread was active so IMO even if the "facts" had changed we probably wouldn't know.

 

[In da Middle]

Regarding JB (the husband of SB):

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15953146/neighbor-says

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

Regarding Jersey

Kansas City Police Department spokesman Steve Young said he could not discuss investigators interviews with Wright. However, Young did say the man known as "Jersey" has been interviewed and cleared of any involvement in the baby's disappearance.


"We spoke to him and are moving on," Young said.

Well this came after so I guess this has changed.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/16017789/baby-lisas-first-birthday-and-still-few-clues

Steve Young said Friday that no one has been cleared in case new information arises that warrants a review.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15919668/womans-cell-phone-connected-to-search-for-missing-baby

As of 11/15/11 JI/DB have not been charged with a crime.

And as of at this time on 12/20/2011 nobody has still been charged.