Keith Urban Sues Keith Urban

  • #41
My point is that this case is and will be about intent. If you go to www.keithurban.com and read the site in its entirety, I think a reasonable person could get the idea that the artist Keith Urban is trying to profit fom the singer Keith Urban's notoriety. That is the issue at hand -what was artist Keith Urban's intent?

I just don't see it. There's not one mention of music, musical instruments, songs, lyrics......anything to do with music at all. Even the paintings, which are quite good, have nothing to do with music. What do you see on the site, aside from the artist's name, that gives you the idea he's trying to profit off the singer's notoriety?
 
  • #42
Mabel said:
I just don't see it. There's not one mention of music, musical instruments, songs, lyrics......anything to do with music at all. Even the paintings, which are quite good, have nothing to do with music. What do you see on the site, aside from the artist's name, that gives you the idea he's trying to profit off the singer's notoriety?
What I see is

1) a domain name of someone who MOST people associate with a popular country music singer. Many people who wanted to find the site of this singer would type in this domain name

2) "You have reached the site of Keith Urban

To Those Who Don't Know, Oil Painting

Is One Of My Hobbies. To View Some
Of My Work Please Enter My
Virtual Gallery.

[font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]As of now none of my paintings are for sale.
However, due to rising inquiries in the sale of my oil paintings,
I have decided to offer a very limited edition of prints for each
painting to the first one hundred art enthusiasts that are interested.
I have arranged for the production of prints for each
painting as I select them.
[/font][font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]One of the best fine artists and computer graphics artist today.[/font] [font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]For production reasons the print will not be the exact size as the painting,
however it will be as close to the original size of the painting as possible.
The print will be autographed and numbered on the back and also comes with
a certificate of authenticity that is also autographed and numbered.
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[font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]I will try to answer all my email.
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[font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]After reading this, some people could very well think that this is the country singer Keith Urban selling limited editions of his oil paintings that he does as a hobby.[/font]
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[font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]3) Four links at the top of the page that take you to the country music singer Keith Urban's albums and shows, etc...[/font]
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[font=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Please know that I could also make an argument that this is obviously NOT the singer Keith Urban's site, but that doesn't stop me from seeing how some reasonable people could think that it is. I don't think it's a stretch to see that, but if you don't see it, that's fine by me.[/font]

Additionally, I don't know what's behind the scenes with this suit. For example, did someone email [email protected] and ask him if he was the singer Keith Urban and get lied to?

This artist may be totally on the up and up or the artist may be trying to get over on people and profit from someone else's fame. The latter scenario is illegal.
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  • #43
We might as well agree to disagree, southcitymom, because I don't see anything at all that Keith-the-painter did to 'hitch a ride' on Keith-the-singer's fame. Painter Keith only used his name on his website, he didn't 'load it' with Singer Keith references to attract the keyword monster, and he has free choice of where to 'put' his site. Nowhere in Google's rules does it state that people who share a name with a 'celebrity' aren't allowed to use Google sites.
 
  • #44
JanetElaine said:
We might as well agree to disagree, southcitymom.....
I've no problem with that at all!;)
 
  • #45
Doesn't he have more important things to worry about? Like staying sober and faithful to his wife? :loser:
 
  • #46
samhoney said:
Doesn't he have more important things to worry about? Like staying sober and faithful to his wife? :loser:
Well, I doubt he's worrying about it. That's what people pay lawyers to do!
 
  • #47
southcitymom said:
I've no problem with that at all!;)
Me either. :D

I was in the process of editing my post yesterday when I was kicked offline (we loooove our cable company - not). It was written in a bit of a hurry and it didn't 'sound' the way I intended to, hence the try at editing, but I'm glad you didn't feel offended or anything. ;)
 
  • #48
samhoney said:
Doesn't he have more important things to worry about? Like staying sober and faithful to his wife? :loser:

Has he been unfaithful to his wife? i gathered he was running an affair before he married, but i idn't know he was doing so after they married?
 
  • #49
southcitymom said:
By "Google only does what it's told", I mean Google wouldn't have pulled to anything if HE (the owner of the site) hadn't set Google in motion. I know Google is powerful, but it still needs us to get the ball rolling.
SCmom that is not true...
I never contacted google and yet I see a google bot on my site daily.
Google scans the internet on its own.
Also it should be noted that for the artist to himself to put up a link for the singer may be a consideration for those looking for the singer and accidentally clicking on the artist. I have been to sites that were not the correct one and they had links to the site I was really looking for..
 
  • #50
JanetElaine said:
Me either. :D

I was in the process of editing my post yesterday when I was kicked offline (we loooove our cable company - not). It was written in a bit of a hurry and it didn't 'sound' the way I intended to, hence the try at editing, but I'm glad you didn't feel offended or anything. ;)
No, not at all, JanetElaine!
 
  • #51
Amraann said:
.....Also it should be noted that for the artist to himself to put up a link for the singer may be a consideration for those looking for the singer and accidentally clicking on the artist. I have been to sites that were not the correct one and they had links to the site I was really looking for..
This may well be true (although when I have been to sites that weren't the correct one, they were usually very clear and said something like - "This may not be the (insert famous person, place or thing here) website you're looking for - if you are looking for (insert famous person, place or thing here)'s website, click here...) just as it may well be true that he was trying to dupe people. I don't really have an opinion either way.

My only opinion is that I think a reasonable person could look at his site and be fooled into thinking it was the musician Keith Urban's site.
 
  • #52
Mabel said:
I just don't see it. There's not one mention of music, musical instruments, songs, lyrics......anything to do with music at all. Even the paintings, which are quite good, have nothing to do with music. What do you see on the site, aside from the artist's name, that gives you the idea he's trying to profit off the singer's notoriety?
I think in this case it's more a case of what you don't see. On most artist sites you will see a little bio giving a few facts about the artist, name location, when they started painting etc... I think that he would want people to know where he is from, but if he put Podunk, Iowa then that would tip people off that he was not 'the' Keith Urban. That fact that he left any pertinant info regarding himself off of this site to me speaks volumes.
 
  • #53
curious1 said:
I think in this case it's more a case of what you don't see. On most artist sites you will see a little bio giving a few facts about the artist, name location, when they started painting etc... I think that he would want people to know where he is from, but if he put Podunk, Iowa then that would tip people off that he was not 'the' Keith Urban. That fact that he left any pertinant info regarding himself off of this site to me speaks volumes.
Terrific post. I agree with it wholeheartedly - the last line in particular.
 
  • #54
I am familiar enough with other musician's sites, that if I went to keithurban.com I would wonder if I mis-type something. There are usually pictures, bios, upcoming album information, tour information. The sites are much fancier that what I see at the painter's site.

Again, I believe that Keith the singer's marketers realize that when most people go to look for a website they start with .com. Thus the .net site is not getting the hits they would like. I think this is an attempt to forcefully take the painter's site.

I am sure the painter knows the above info. and that is why he won't give it up. It is not his fault he purchased the domain name and that the singer is more popular. Regarding the limited edition prints, lots of painters, photographers, etc have limited edition prints. That is what makes them more valuable and collector's items.

Just as someone stated, if I made a website on Google and stated that my favorite artist was Celine Dion, favorite hotel to stay at was Hilton, I loved Disney World, etc., Then ads for those places would show up on my site.
 
  • #55
2luvmy said:
I am sure the painter knows the above info. and that is why he won't give it up. It is not his fault he purchased the domain name and that the singer is more popular. Regarding the limited edition prints, lots of painters, photographers, etc have limited edition prints. That is what makes them more valuable and collector's items.
But don't you think that a painter who was trying to sell his limited edition autographed prints would include some information about himself on the website. I mean it takes some time to get all those oil paintings onto the website - don't you think he could take the extra 10 minutes to write a little bio on himself? That parts seems a bit dodgy to me - this lack of direct information.

I'll go so far as to say I am not convinced that those are his oil paintings at all. I don't trust the guy - just based on the website!
 
  • #56
I sell homemade soap and soy candles online, it took me many hours to set up my site. No where on the site is there any biographical information.
 
  • #57
Mabel said:
I sell homemade soap and soy candles online, it took me many hours to set up my site. No where on the site is there any biographical information.
That doesn't bother me at all - you don't share a notorious person's name and you don't have 4 links to that notorious person on your site. Your site is clear (and well done!) - his still raises my hinky meter!
 
  • #58
southcitymom said:
That doesn't bother me at all - you don't share a notorious person's name and you don't have 4 links to that notorious person on your site. Your site is clear (and well done!) - his still raises my hinky meter!

Actually, I do share a name with a little known actress from the 80's. Thanks for the compliment about my site. I'll be working over the next few days to replace all the pictures and make them uniform. What a pain.
 
  • #59
I love Keith Urban's music and from everything I have heard about him I don't think he is in anyway a trouble maker. I think there is more to this story then we are reading.

It is offensive to me for people to talk so nasty about him just because he has had drug problems and has recently been back to rehab. At least he had the good sense to return to rehab when he became aware of where he was headed. There are a lot of people who post on here that are in recovery and if you haven't been one of the people who have been there then thank God instead of being so offensive. I'm not in recovery so that isn't why it offends me but good people get involved in drugs and alcohol and become addicted. I give a lot of credit to the people who go into rehab because they don't want to remain where the drugs/alcohol have taken them. It is one heck of a ride getting clean.

We don't know that Keith Urban was having an affair before he got married to Nicole Kidman. I doubt it though because I think Nicole would have ended their relationship as soon as she was aware. She isn't a person that was desperate to find a man to marry her. I also thinks that she loves Keith enough to stand by him while he was in rehab. I hope that they have many years of happiness together.
 
  • #60
Mabel said:
Actually, I do share a name with a little known actress from the 80's. Thanks for the compliment about my site. I'll be working over the next few days to replace all the pictures and make them uniform. What a pain.
It IS a pain. I used to have a little online business and I remember. I really do like your site - wasn't just saying that...;) I promise not to sue you and try to steal your domain name! :)
 

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