Did his brother give a time? I thought he said that he and his family "arrived at 230 and PF sometime after that."
I do not recall an exact time in the initial testimony, but I do not think he said that PF was very late
Did his brother give a time? I thought he said that he and his family "arrived at 230 and PF sometime after that."
was there any mention of whether PF actually had any prior history with Mr. Bentley? to attempt this conspiracy with a total stranger seems even more irrational than with some one he might have known in some capacity.
Ok, thxNope.
Judge said it would take quite a bit of time to go over those with jurors, so decided to wait until Monday.
GotchaNope! My understanding is that had been the original plan, but the judge wanted to get the jury home before 5pm as that has been important to him.
Something to ponder: while PF was drafting his Bountiful Confessions, careful to include only the most sensitive information, JD was apparently streetwise enough NOT to answer in kind. He must have answered in spoken fashion, because with what we know, there's only one author of the Moron Chronicles. You can't make up that kind of stupid.
MOO
Yes, I totally expect a quick verdict!
Elect a foreman = 5 minutes
Take an initial vote to see where everybody stands = 5 minutes
Foreman says, "Oh, gee, we've only been here 10 minutes. We can't just walk out there and say Guilty. Anybody got cards? Texas Holdem okay with everybody? Who wants to deal?"
IIRC Sam told us they just made a connection in the jail over having been in rodeos.was there any mention of whether PF actually had any prior history with Mr. Bentley? to attempt this conspiracy with a total stranger seems even more irrational than with some one he might have known in some capacity.
Question:
I’m confused on the jury instructions. I thought they’d been given to the jury on Friday or maybe that was just deciding on what the instructions (and charges) would be without the jury present. I was under the assumption that we only had closing arguments left for tomorrow. I’m sure someone can tell me ..... thank you!
Drew Peterson, a murderer who was convicted quickly, adding years onto his sentence by trying to hire a hitman, is one that should give us confidence about Patrick's future.I'm learning a lot about requirements legally to prosecute murder-for-hire and solicitation. Oxygen channel has a television program on right now called murder-for-hire.
Some similarities to this case. Someone that he was working with started working with the government and then he was put into jail. Then he put out a hit on the three witnesses from jail, including the person that helped put him in jail and his wife, and one of the law enforcement guys.
5:00 PMI do not recall an exact time in the initial testimony, but I do not think he said that PF was very late
Here are my detailed notes from Sam on this from Friday:
Noon lunch break.
1:07 p.m. - State rested case when they came back from lunch.
1:09 p.m. -
Then the judge gave PF his advisement. He asked PF if he understands he has the right to testify. PF says, “Yes, your honor.” Asks if he understands he’ll be the subject of cross examination on ANY relevant info, and also be subject to jury questions. PF says, “Yes your honor.” Ask if he knows it’s only his decision, PF says, “I do.” Asked if he knows he has the right not to testify, PF says, ‘I do.” Asked if he had questions, PF said “No, sir.” When asked, PF said he did not need more time. And then when asked, PF said, quote, “I will remain silent.”
- Defense tried arguing the felony murder robbery charge. The robbery would have happened after the presumed murder so he doesn’t think the charge is being correctly applied.
- Lead prosecutor said there is testimony that PF took KB’s phone. Doesn’t matter if was before or after the murder. She asked the court to recognize the substantial evidence she says supports it.
- Judge said the prosecution has the burden of establishing sufficient evidence for that charge beyond reasonable doubt. Said the People have presented that evidence.
- Judge denied the motion for acquittal on that.
Jury re-entered at 1:16 p.m.
Defense rested their case without witnesses.
Judge told the jury he was cautiously optimistic to have closing tonight, but he said it will have to happen on Monday because they were not done with jury instructions. He did not want to keep them around, just kind of sitting on their hands for almost two hours, so he sent them home then.
Judge said, “It’s my responsibility that there be a fair trial, not the fastest trial.” If they went on, he wouldn’t get them out by 5:00 p.m., which has been very important for him.
So jury filed out and judge stayed with the attorneys to pan out the jury instructions. Judge didn’t want to keep jury waiting while they did this.
Colorado law requires the judge to read the jury instructions out loud verbatim after closing arguments. But he did say, “We’re in the home stretch here.”
Once jury was out, defense tries to get one of the first degree murder charges dropped..
Ashley Porter for the defense attempted to argue that basically the state's case lacks real definitive evidence. She says it all basically comes from Krystal Kenney who has been untruthful toward several parties already. She also cites no cause officially of death.
Instead, Jennifer Viehman, prosecution, said no, it's quite the opposite, we have a lot of evidence, it's up to the jury to decide, not in the jury instructions.
Essentially it's decided that if the jury doesn't charge him with first degree, it gives the jury option of a lesser charge, wants to keep that on the table, doesn't want appeals down the road, wants one trial altogether.. judge says obligated to include option of lesser charge...
- Closing arguments will begin first thing Monday morning. each side gets a maximum of 90 minutes.. They do not have to take all of that time.
Patrick requested that Krystal bring coffee to all the jurors.Will the jury get time for a coffee break before 10am, or will they already be in deliberation?
If you were defense who would you have put on as a witness and for what purpose?
Also thank you so much again for sharing your expertise as a prosecutor. You uniquely know more than any of us about how this all works.
Question:
I’m confused on the jury instructions. I thought they’d been given to the jury on Friday or maybe that was just deciding on what the instructions (and charges) would be without the jury present. I was under the assumption that we only had closing arguments left for tomorrow. I’m sure someone can tell me ..... thank you!
So how did he get the information then?I don't think visitors can pass papers to inmates.
I'm not aware of any history between the two of them. I just think he is that delusional and he thinks he is so important that anyone will jump when he says jump and ask how high.
The body is irrelevant at this point. We know she's dead, and if that tooth is hers, and we know it is, well, she's dead. I don't think anyone is even arguing that at this point. If his attorneys get up tomorrow and try to say she took off and there's not enough forensics to indicate incompatibility with life, I'll laugh. So the death isn't an issue at this point.
It's clear from the evidence the jury knows this woman is dead and this man is responsible for it. He's buried himself. So at this point, the only thing they CAN do is try to get him a lesser sentence via a lesser level of homicide.
Thank you, riolove, for your perspective on Kelsey's case.
You bolster our confidence that this can only turn out well for the Berreths and all the people on Patrick's hit list.
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