KidFinders ~ Have the EVER found a kid?

[zadari]

Also another reason IMO that many here have said to be careful of where people donate. This group is not ACTIVELY searching for Caylee (whether alive or dead). I question this business' motives...plain and simple.

im wondering if the anthonys are giving them money ? mabey they are duping them ? my god mabey the a's are being played bigtime and this whole mess is because of that kfn

 

[EmMomma]

There really is no sense in spending time on this, imo. The best have already done the work and their efforts to do the right thing were not rewarded.

The question was have they ever found a kid? My question is: Did they ever look?!

Did they turn info into LE or media?
Either way, I hope that EVENTUALLY any wrong doing will be punished.
As for your question...my answer is "NO!". They are too busy selling t-shirts and raffle tickets to physically LOOK for anyone...JMO, as usual...

 

[FloridaKatz]

There really is no sense in spending time on this, imo. The best have already done the work and their efforts to do the right thing were not rewarded.

The question was have they ever found a kid? My question is: Did they ever look?!

Don't ya know that if they had ever found a kid, the A's would be shoving it down our throughts, saying we are working with KFN because of their proven abilities, yada, yada, yada !!

 

[RR0004]

There really is no sense in spending time on this, imo. The best have already done the work and their efforts to do the right thing were not rewarded.

The question was have they ever found a kid? My question is: Did they ever look?!

Thanks, SS. We've traveled down this path before. Those who need to know have been made aware of this group.

 

[RR0004]

IF KFN is collecting donations for billboards and t-shirts, why do they have to SELL the tshirts? And how can they call themselves kidFINDERS when they do nothing to find children?

Very good question. They pray on the heartstrings of others.

 

[FloridaKatz]

Also another reason IMO that many here have said to be careful of where people donate. This group is not ACTIVELY searching for Caylee (whether alive or dead). I question this business' motives...plain and simple.

Agreed, which is why my "mantra" has always been, if you're going to donate, either go with the local school systems that hold charity events (like food drives, car washes and stuff) your church, or go with United Way.

Business Motive = hop on the A' publicity train. Thing is, they may get more than they had hoped for, now that everyone knows they are crooks and felons. They don't seem too smart in my book.

 

[whiteangora]

Thanks, SS. We've traveled down this path before. Those who need to know have been made aware of this group.

I know we've been down this path before, but nothing has happened! Do we really know for sure that those who "need to know" are aware?
What harm could it do to contact the news magazine shows I mentioned earlier from ABC,CBS,& NBC?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I know we've been down this path before, but nothing has happened! Do we really know for sure that those who "need to know" are aware? Yes.
What harm could it do to contact the news magazine shows I mentioned earlier from ABC,CBS,& NBC? They are aware, too.

Like I said, it has already been addressed.

 

[whiteangora]

Like I said, it has already been addressed.

Okay. So are we all just supposed to act like this thread never happened?
Like so many of the others? You would think that the more attention this gets from people the quicker something might be done............ or is that just my wishful thinking?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

As near as I can tell...the answer is Yes to all three questions.

 

[Paladine]

Oh...so it was NLH and not KFN.
The names...the initials...the acronyms...
My brain used to be a sponge...now it's a sieve. :crazy:
Thanks!

LOL!

...for me it's "too old too soon, too smart too late"...

 

[shotzie]

I don't know if this has been posted about milstead, but interesting
Dennis W. Milstead is a real jerk, especially after taking those flowers



I cant post all the info - but follow this link and put his name in. How many times can one person be sued??

http://courtcon.co.palm-beach.fl.us/...h_option=party
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[ellieit]

That's great! I know many people check out the Rip off Report for all kinds of reasons. Thanks to who ever tipped them off.
I think sending this stuff to Dateline could be the best thing to do, they love the investigative stories and hidden cameras and exposing the scum, this bunch of con-artists is right up their alley.

actually sending this information to the IRS to look into is very effective.
I have seen the IRS go after these people and shut them down PRONTO!
You really have to follow strict guidlines with a 501c3. On the IRS website there should be the info on who to send it to they have special investigators that look into these matters...WHy not put our tax dollors to work....

 

[RR0004]

Okay. So are we all just supposed to act like this thread never happened?
Like so many of the others? You would think that the more attention this gets from people the quicker something might be done............ or is that just my wishful thinking?

Well, all I can say, if there's power in numbers I don't see what it could do to hurt. It's very frustrating to say the least.

 

[Monkey's mom]

there really is no sense in spending time on this, imo. The best have already done the work and their efforts to do the right thing were not rewarded.

The question was have they ever found a kid? My question is: Did they ever look?!

exactly.

 

[RR0004]

actually sending this information to the IRS to look into is very effective.
I have seen the IRS go after these people and shut them down PRONTO!
You really have to follow strict guidlines with a 501c3. On the IRS website there should be the info on who to send it to they have special investigators that look into these matters...WHy not put our tax dollors to work....

I agree. There's a reason why they're still out there operating. Maybe there hasn't been enough voices expressing their outrage.

 

[reefshadow]

Here are the laws regarding raffles in Florida:

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/in...e&Search_String=raffle&URL=CH0849/Sec0935.HTM

If the description we've seen of the tickets is accurate, they broke the law right there.

"(3) All brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks used in connection with a drawing by chance shall conspicuously disclose:

(a) The rules governing the conduct and operation of the drawing.

(b) The full name of the organization and its principal place of business.

(c) The source of the funds used to award cash prizes or to purchase prizes.

(d) The date, hour, and place where the winner will be chosen and the prizes will be awarded, unless the brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks are not offered to the public more than 3 days prior to the drawing.

(e) That no purchase or contribution is necessary.

(4) It is unlawful for any organization which, pursuant to the authority granted by this section, promotes, operates, or conducts a drawing by chance:

(a) To design, engage in, promote, or conduct any drawing in which the winner is predetermined by means of matching, instant win, or preselected sweepstakes or otherwise or in which the selection of the winners is in any way rigged;

(b) To require an entry fee, donation, substantial consideration, payment, proof of purchase, or contribution as a condition of entering the drawing or of being selected to win a prize. However, this provision shall not prohibit an organization from suggesting a minimum donation or from including a statement of such suggested minimum donation on any printed material utilized in connection with the fundraising event or drawing;

(c) To condition the drawing on a minimum number of tickets having been disbursed to contributors or on a minimum amount of contributions having been received;

(d) To arbitrarily remove, disqualify, disallow, or reject any entry or to discriminate in any manner between entrants who gave contributions to the organization and those who did not give such contributions;

(e) To fail to promptly notify, at the address set forth on the entry blank, any person, whose entry is selected to win, of the fact that he or she won;

(f) To fail to award all prizes offered;

(g) To print, publish, or circulate literature or advertising material used in connection with the drawing which is false, deceptive, or misleading;

(h) To cancel a drawing; or

(i) To condition the acquisition or giveaway of any prize upon the receipt of voluntary donations or contributions.

(5) The organization conducting the drawing may limit the number of tickets distributed to each drawing entrant.

(6) A violation of this section is a deceptive and unfair trade practice.

(7) Any organization which engages in any act or practice in violation of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. However, any organization or other person who sells or offers for sale in this state a ticket or entry blank for a raffle or other drawing by chance, without complying with the requirements of paragraph (3)(d), is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable by fine only as provided in s. 775.083."

The tickets didn't have any relevant info

There is no contribution necessary; they could request donations but would have to give tickets away for free if asked. A required donation or purchase would make it a lottery which is totally illegal.

I personally don't believe they gave away any prizes at all.

 

[RR0004]

Here are the laws regarding raffles in Florida:

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=raffle&URL=CH0849/Sec0935.HTM

If the description we've seen of the tickets is accurate, they broke the law right there.

"(3) All brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks used in connection with a drawing by chance shall conspicuously disclose:

(a) The rules governing the conduct and operation of the drawing.

(b) The full name of the organization and its principal place of business.

(c) The source of the funds used to award cash prizes or to purchase prizes.

(d) The date, hour, and place where the winner will be chosen and the prizes will be awarded, unless the brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks are not offered to the public more than 3 days prior to the drawing.

(e) That no purchase or contribution is necessary.

(4) It is unlawful for any organization which, pursuant to the authority granted by this section, promotes, operates, or conducts a drawing by chance:

(a) To design, engage in, promote, or conduct any drawing in which the winner is predetermined by means of matching, instant win, or preselected sweepstakes or otherwise or in which the selection of the winners is in any way rigged;

(b) To require an entry fee, donation, substantial consideration, payment, proof of purchase, or contribution as a condition of entering the drawing or of being selected to win a prize. However, this provision shall not prohibit an organization from suggesting a minimum donation or from including a statement of such suggested minimum donation on any printed material utilized in connection with the fundraising event or drawing;

(c) To condition the drawing on a minimum number of tickets having been disbursed to contributors or on a minimum amount of contributions having been received;

(d) To arbitrarily remove, disqualify, disallow, or reject any entry or to discriminate in any manner between entrants who gave contributions to the organization and those who did not give such contributions;

(e) To fail to promptly notify, at the address set forth on the entry blank, any person, whose entry is selected to win, of the fact that he or she won;

(f) To fail to award all prizes offered;

(g) To print, publish, or circulate literature or advertising material used in connection with the drawing which is false, deceptive, or misleading;

(h) To cancel a drawing; or

(i) To condition the acquisition or giveaway of any prize upon the receipt of voluntary donations or contributions.

(5) The organization conducting the drawing may limit the number of tickets distributed to each drawing entrant.

(6) A violation of this section is a deceptive and unfair trade practice.

(7) Any organization which engages in any act or practice in violation of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. However, any organization or other person who sells or offers for sale in this state a ticket or entry blank for a raffle or other drawing by chance, without complying with the requirements of paragraph (3)(d), is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable by fine only as provided in s. 775.083."

The tickets didn't have any relevant info

There is no contribution necessary; they could request donations but would have to give tickets away for free if asked. A required donation or purchase would make it a lottery which is totally illegal.

I personally don't believe they gave away any prizes at all.

Very early this morning IIRC someone found that tax-exempt organizations don't have to abide by the same rules. The question truly is- does the NFLH have charitable status. Also, isn't MN somehow connected to this organization? How did all these players appear on the scene. If the As were solicited by them, then they may not have a clue as to what's really going on. This information needs to be made public then for many reasons. JMO

ETA: there has to be a way we can find out if the prizes were awarded. I would imagine the car co. would take photos of the prize winners. Local media might want to do a follow-up with them (SA). Anyone with any connections down in Florida?

 

[RR0004]

Don't ya know that if they had ever found a kid, the A's would be shoving it down our throughts, saying we are working with KFN because of their proven abilities, yada, yada, yada !!

What if they truly don't know about this organization? I now they're defensive, but if they see "proof" maybe it would get to through to them. Did MN get onboard perhaps to secure they wouldn't know?

 

[Gaia713]

Here are the laws regarding raffles in Florida:

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/in...e&Search_String=raffle&URL=CH0849/Sec0935.HTM

If the description we've seen of the tickets is accurate, they broke the law right there.

"(3) All brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks used in connection with a drawing by chance shall conspicuously disclose:

(a) The rules governing the conduct and operation of the drawing.

(b) The full name of the organization and its principal place of business.

(c) The source of the funds used to award cash prizes or to purchase prizes.

(d) The date, hour, and place where the winner will be chosen and the prizes will be awarded, unless the brochures, advertisements, notices, tickets, or entry blanks are not offered to the public more than 3 days prior to the drawing.

(e) That no purchase or contribution is necessary.

(4) It is unlawful for any organization which, pursuant to the authority granted by this section, promotes, operates, or conducts a drawing by chance:

(a) To design, engage in, promote, or conduct any drawing in which the winner is predetermined by means of matching, instant win, or preselected sweepstakes or otherwise or in which the selection of the winners is in any way rigged;

(b) To require an entry fee, donation, substantial consideration, payment, proof of purchase, or contribution as a condition of entering the drawing or of being selected to win a prize. However, this provision shall not prohibit an organization from suggesting a minimum donation or from including a statement of such suggested minimum donation on any printed material utilized in connection with the fundraising event or drawing;

(c) To condition the drawing on a minimum number of tickets having been disbursed to contributors or on a minimum amount of contributions having been received;

(d) To arbitrarily remove, disqualify, disallow, or reject any entry or to discriminate in any manner between entrants who gave contributions to the organization and those who did not give such contributions;

(e) To fail to promptly notify, at the address set forth on the entry blank, any person, whose entry is selected to win, of the fact that he or she won;

(f) To fail to award all prizes offered;

(g) To print, publish, or circulate literature or advertising material used in connection with the drawing which is false, deceptive, or misleading;

(h) To cancel a drawing; or

(i) To condition the acquisition or giveaway of any prize upon the receipt of voluntary donations or contributions.

(5) The organization conducting the drawing may limit the number of tickets distributed to each drawing entrant.

(6) A violation of this section is a deceptive and unfair trade practice.

(7) Any organization which engages in any act or practice in violation of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. However, any organization or other person who sells or offers for sale in this state a ticket or entry blank for a raffle or other drawing by chance, without complying with the requirements of paragraph (3)(d), is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable by fine only as provided in s. 775.083."

The tickets didn't have any relevant info

There is no contribution necessary; they could request donations but would have to give tickets away for free if asked. A required donation or purchase would make it a lottery which is totally illegal.

I personally don't believe they gave away any prizes at all.

My question is this: Are the Anthony's this stupid? Or are they in on the scam?