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[RR0004]

Ran the dollar amounts on the raffle

On the website it says that the tickets were $25.00 each but a poster earlier said she paid $10.00

So if we are to assume that the info they gave us was correct and they sold at least 7,518 tickets then it would break down like this:

7,518 x $25.00=$187,950

7,518 x $20.00=$150,360

7,518 x $10.00=$75,180

Pretty hefty hunk of change---wonder where it is??

I thought I read early this morning that they sold 4,000 tix...which who knows is even accurate...I mean look at who's behind this. Because of not-for-profit status, no one should have had to pay for the ticket in the first place. Did they let people know that? How convoluted is all this?!

 

[Gaia713]

Well, if you look at the NLHF reasons for a nonprofit corporation they don't sound as if they ACTIVELY search either.

http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/20494232.pdf

Having read that, it's clear that these orgnanizations are a WASTE, A HUGE WASTE

I am NOT impressed with ANYTHING I have seen going on in the state of Florida. Non-profit agencies that collect monies and then disappear? Makes you wonder how high up in the state these shams go.

 

[RR0004]

It shows City Links but they are now gone too. ????????

Main Office: Citylinks 4Charities Inc. 3437 Bellington Drive Orlando, FL 32835 Tel: (407) 296-0713 Fax: (407) 445-4852
E-mail: [email protected]

CONTACT: City Links 4 Charities, Inc
Efrain Rodriguez, 407 296-0713

CityLinks 4Charities, Inc. is a 501c3 tax-exempt nonprofit organization funded by public and private grants & contributions. The mission of the CityLinks Web site is to serve as a complimentary information and solutions resource portal for nonprofit, charitable organizations and individuals nationwide.

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/...04/1207-11.htm

It's weird to have an "internet" nonprofit...perhaps they were bought up by someone else?

 

[RR0004]

Having read that, it's clear that these orgnanizations are a WASTE, A HUGE WASTE

Thanks for making me smile.

 

[RR0004]

Here's the link to AGLAW

http://app1.800helpfla.com/cswebcomplaints/FileComplaint.aspx

Shucks, I wish I had purchased a ticket so I could complain!

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I thought I read early this morning that they sold 4,000 tix...which who knows is even accurate...I mean look at who's behind this. Because of not-for-profit status, no one should have had to pay for the ticket in the first place. Did they let people know that? How convoluted is all this?!

I based my amounts on the ticket numbers of the winners--the car went to ticket number 07518---so I figured they started at ticket number 00001 and went up

I remember the post your talking about--too lazy to go back and look for it but it said something like "they sold at least 4,000" which I assume was based on the ticket number of the trip winner

 

[RR0004]

Having read that, it's clear that these orgnanizations are a WASTE, A HUGE WASTE

I am NOT impressed with ANYTHING I have seen going on in the state of Florida. Non-profit agencies that collect monies and then disappear? Makes you wonder how high up in the state these shams go.

To be honest...I don't think anyone is watching what's going on. I think it's too d-rn easy to set up these companies.

 

[RR0004]

I based my amounts on the ticket numbers of the winners--the car went to ticket number 07518---so I figured they started at ticket number 00001 and went up

I remember the post your talking about--too lazy to go back and look for it but it said something like "they sold at least 4,000" which I assume was based on the ticket number of the trip winner

Ooh...you're good. I really think we should get somebody over to the dealership to get a follow-up story for the papers. It would make for a good human interest story, don't you think?

 

[irishbosoxfan]

HelpNet's MySpace Page--- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=397663985


An interesting link on this page-- Nonprofit Does Not Mean Tax Exempt-- http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=397663985&blogID=427610453

 

[shadow of my mind]

Was looking at mortgages and deeds.
I am not a real estate and mortgage forensic so there may be a lot that I missed but I can read names and dates. I posted the links to these so you can see for yourself. Someone needs to see if these people are 'flipping' property and using assumed names to cover their tracks. There are mortgages taken out and then paid off in two years and property deals in one county with promissory notes coming from other counties. Just the use of switching middle and first names and slight variations in spellings of Sherri maiden name is enough to make your head spin. Someone with a lot more experience than I need to do a through job to see where it leads them. I do genealogy work so I am not used to working with these modern documents. The old ones I understand better plus I am not anywhere close to Florida. We need someone with good title search and mortgage background to follow this paper trial between property transactions, different counties, loans and then track the opening of so many business with these peoples names. This is a major job. I haven't even scratched the surface nor even attempted to followed the paper trail backwards to find out who owned what originally. There is only so much online and then you need to go to hard copy. Heck there are tax records to tie into this also along with some of the criminal records that have popped up.
Then you have all of the other people that are connected to them. Mind boggling.

So this was I came up with looking in one county, Lakeland, where there is really not a whole lot of paperwork as compared to say Palm Beach Co. I did not have time to check any of the others to see what may show up.

This record is interesting. Same last name of Dennis but the first and last names are reversed plus the wife’ name is different. I noticed that a mailing address was in a different county that the property.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=775361&file_num=&doc_status=V

William D. M. & his wife LUCILLE R of
14218 24th Court North
PO Box 351 Loxahatchee Florida
Purchased property in 1985 on Lady Lake Sumter County Florida for 85,274.00 filed May 1985 assumed from mortgage from 1983


This is another record and it is the same names William D. & Lucille R.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=763378&file_num=&doc_status=V
The promissory note on this mortgage is coming from Palm Beach County, which is where Dennis lives.

Then look at this record. This is Lakeland County also
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=1565166&file_num=93004182&doc_status=V
Notice the name under Grantor it is Sherri maiden name.
Slightly different spelling, using a kay instead of key but connected to Sherri and Dennis seems to be using his middle name as his first name again.

There are several more transactions with this same group of grantors, and one shows transaction now shows one of the party’s lives in California.

So that got me to thinking. Same names just different order, with property from the same county that our Mr. Blue Shirt lives and then other property with an address in the same county as Mr. Blue Shirt… so I went back and looked at the marriage application………And the best for last

Now look at the marriage license of Dennis and Sherri and notice the P.O. Box 351 Loxahatchee that Dennis used as his mailing address when the got married to Sherri. Now go back up to the first record I hyper linked and look at the address for the mortgage. It is the same as the PO box of the mortgage holders of the property on Lady Lake and in that paperwork his wife is called Lucille.
Interesting since Dennis and Sherri were already married in 1981 in West Palm Beach
http://oris.co.palm-beach.fl.us/or_web1/details.asp?doc_id=7587618&file_num=19810022751

So is this guy married to two women Lucille and Sherri?
Or is Sherri using a false name of Lucille
Or was Dennis married to Lucille and lied on his marriage application about it being his first marriage and just kept on using her name when it suited him.

Can anyone tell me if there is another portion of the marriage application that states the parents’ names that does not show up on line? I have never seen any application for marriage that does not show lineage at least back one generation. Would love to find out names of parents to track backward. A lot of criminals use other family members names, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles to falsify paperwork and a some times it is a family affair one being just a crooked as the next. If we are going to turn this over to another entity to investigate and expose them we need to give that person enough that they can read it over and say Wow, I wonder what they didn’t find out that with the resources we have we can dig up on these people. The story has to be big enough and bad enough to warent the time and energy or no one will be interested.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

Fiscal Sponsorship

To make a tax-deductible donation to assist NLHF in finding missing children, please make checks payable to City Links 4Charities, Inc.

CITY LINKS 4CHARITIES INC
3437 BELLINGTON DR
ORLANDO, FL 32835-2683


City Links became Helpnet and before you ask....No they don't have a 501 either

You can use the link to check it out http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/searc...searched.isDescending=false&submitName=Search

 

[RR0004]

I know this has all been gone over but it's obvious lots of ppl didn't see it the first time around and if the ppl who bought the tickets see they will file a complaint with AG Law in Florida


When going to Yellow Pages for Citylinks 4Charities Inc, their website is http://www.citylinks.org which takes you to Welcome to HelpNet USA! which is also in Orlando.

Mission Statement for HelpNet
HelpNet’s mission is to serve as an online information & solutions resource, networking to enhance community life.

How does something like that get nfp status? I'm dumbfounded.

ETA: oops...didn't see your post Irish. They don't! So then how does NLHF go around touting itself as this nonprofit that helps find missing children? Am I missing something here? I mean if it's so obvious to us, why haven't they been looked at?

 

[SoCalSleuth]

I put on my attorney hat and sent KF a letter requesting confirmation of the date of the raffle, the winner, etc. and required a written response by the 19th or I would file a complaint with the AG's office. This is disgusting and a shame.

 

[RR0004]

Was looking at mortgages and deeds.
I am not a real estate and mortgage forensic so there may be a lot that I missed but I can read names and dates. I posted the links to these so you can see for yourself. Someone needs to see if these people are 'flipping' property and using assumed names to cover their tracks. There are mortgages taken out and then paid off in two years and property deals in one county with promissory notes coming from other counties. Just the use of switching middle and first names and slight variations in spellings of Sherri maiden name is enough to make your head spin. Someone with a lot more experience than I need to do a through job to see where it leads them. I do genealogy work so I am not used to working with these modern documents. The old ones I understand better plus I am not anywhere close to Florida. We need someone with good title search and mortgage background to follow this paper trial between property transactions, different counties, loans and then track the opening of so many business with these peoples names. This is a major job. I haven't even scratched the surface nor even attempted to followed the paper trail backwards to find out who owned what originally. There is only so much online and then you need to go to hard copy. Heck there are tax records to tie into this also along with some of the criminal records that have popped up.
Then you have all of the other people that are connected to them. Mind boggling.

So this was I came up with looking in one county, Lakeland, where there is really not a whole lot of paperwork as compared to say Palm Beach Co. I did not have time to check any of the others to see what may show up.

This record is interesting. Same last name of Dennis but the first and last names are reversed plus the wife’ name is different. I noticed that a mailing address was in a different county that the property.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=775361&file_num=&doc_status=V

William D. M. & his wife LUCILLE R of
14218 24th Court North
PO Box 351 Loxahatchee Florida
Purchased property in 1985 on Lady Lake Sumter County Florida for 85,274.00 filed May 1985 assumed from mortgage from 1983


This is another record and it is the same names William D. & Lucille R.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=763378&file_num=&doc_status=V
The promissory note on this mortgage is coming from Palm Beach County, which is where Dennis lives.

Then look at this record. This is Lakeland County also
http://lakecountyclerk.org/wb_or1/details.asp?doc_id=1565166&file_num=93004182&doc_status=V
Notice the name under Grantor it is Sherri maiden name.
Slightly different spelling, using a kay instead of key but connected to Sherri and Dennis seems to be using his middle name as his first name again.

There are several more transactions with this same group of grantors, and one shows transaction now shows one of the party’s lives in California.

So that got me to thinking. Same names just different order, with property from the same county that our Mr. Blue Shirt lives and then other property with an address in the same county as Mr. Blue Shirt… so I went back and looked at the marriage application………And the best for last

Now look at the marriage license of Dennis and Sherri and notice the P.O. Box 351 Loxahatchee that Dennis used as his mailing address when the got married to Sherri. Now go back up to the first record I hyper linked and look at the address for the mortgage. It is the same as the PO box of the mortgage holders of the property on Lady Lake and in that paperwork his wife is called Lucille.
Interesting since Dennis and Sherri were already married in 1981 in West Palm Beach
http://oris.co.palm-beach.fl.us/or_web1/details.asp?doc_id=7587618&file_num=19810022751

So is this guy married to two women Lucille and Sherri?
Or is Sherri using a false name of Lucille
Or was Dennis married to Lucille and lied on his marriage application about it being his first marriage and just kept on using her name when it suited him.

Can anyone tell me if there is another portion of the marriage application that states the parents’ names that does not show up on line? I have never seen any application for marriage that does not show lineage at least back one generation. Would love to find out names of parents to track backward. A lot of criminals use other family members names, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles to falsify paperwork and a some times it is a family affair one being just a crooked as the next. If we are going to turn this over to another entity to investigate and expose them we need to give that person enough that they can read it over and say Wow, I wonder what they didn’t find out that with the resources we have we can dig up on these people. The story has to be big enough and bad enough to warent the time and energy or no one will be interested.

Just a quickie....'cause I want to get back to reading your post...but did you see the article I posted a little ways back (from an earlier thread)...that's exactly what they were thinking they were doing...flipping.

 

[RR0004]

I put on my attorney hat and sent KF a letter requesting confirmation of the date of the raffle, the winner, etc. and required a written response by the 19th or I would file a complaint with the AG's office. This is disgusting and a shame.

Well, tell me how to complain 'cause I didn't buy a ticket. I'd like to know in writing if they notified the STATE of the winners. How can I do that?

 

[shadow of my mind]

Just a quickie....'cause I want to get back to reading your post...but did you see the article I posted a little ways back (from an earlier thread)...that's exactly what they were thinking they were doing...flipping.

No, I didn't. I have a tendency to just go looking. This way if I find something and it happens to match what someone else thinks or had found out then it holds more water.
Two independent opinions coming to the same conclusions based on the same set of facts is more telling than just one person coming to a conclusion. Its not that I don't take anyone else word for anything but I have always thought it is better to see for myself.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

No, I didn't. I have a tendency to just go looking. This way if I find something and it happens to match what someone else thinks or had found out then it holds more water.
Two independent opinions coming to the same conclusions based on the same set of facts is more telling than just one person coming to a conclusion. Its not that I don't take anyone else word for anything but I have always thought it is better to see for myself.

:clap::clap::blowkiss::clap::clap:

 

[Advocate4]

Bombshell...here is something very interesting:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2455838&highlight=Peter+Benevides#post2455838

After just a brief reading about the connections referenced in the post/s on that thread ... if I didn't know better ... I'd think Caylee might have been "vanished" by Casey and others On Purpose in a convoluted plot to make money off her disappearance, that this whole thing is a grand scam and that she's actually alive somewhere well known to at least Casey and maybe other family members.

The ultimate Shell Game: The nanny stole her ... the nanny and nanny's sister kidnapped her ... squirrels ... last seen by the world on June 15, last seen by GA on June 16, last heard by JG on/about June 24th via phone (sure ... then not sure ...) ... decomp evidence or "maybe" evidence?? ... chloroformed or drowned ... gas can gas can who has the gas can ... Casey's car, AL's car, Amy's car ... here a ping, there a ping, everywhere a ping ping ... PR person who has never been seen but only faxes messages ... and on and on.

I suppose that's a nasty thing to say, but gee whiz, it would explain a lot of the weirdness surrounding this case!

 

[TURBOTHINK]

and i think they have alot to do with why ca and ga are acting like they do . i think these guys are messing with thier heads .. because cindy acts like that man did .. all combative and such .

That is a good observation. If that is is the only people they are around they really may be brainwashed under that kind of stress.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

After just a brief reading about the connections referenced in the post/s on that thread ... if I didn't know better ... I'd think Caylee might have been "vanished" by Casey and others On Purpose in a convoluted plot to make money off her disappearance, that this whole thing is a grand scam and that she's actually alive somewhere well known to at least Casey and maybe other family members.

I suppose that's a nasty thing to say, but gee whiz, it would explain a lot of the weirdness surrounding this case!

It sure would explain every time GA & CA seem to settle down things seem to blow up again. It would also explain why the NEED to be on TV all the time, they are pushing them to collect more money.