GUILTY KS - Roger, 48, & Melissa Bluml, 53, murdered, Valley Center, 15 Nov 2013

  • #21
:gaah: Didn't this screwed-up, with screw loose bio-mom think of her little seven year old daughter at all! She just shoots the good people who did everything to raise her boys, when she did nothing but talk weepy about missing them. Then, to top it off, she helps ruin both sons lives again! She has done nothing but bring sorrow into everyone's lives over and over.

SHE shot them!

And I am ALL FOR adoption. But you cannot give a 7yr old up for adoption and have any hope they will be fine with it. That is way too late to give your children up. SEVEN? No wonder he was so unhappy. He was totally bonded to his pathetic birth mother already. You cannot expect a 7 yr old boy to suddenly bond with another 'mom' if his first one willingly gave him away. It is one thing if she dies or CPS takes him away. That can be explained and justified. But entirely another if mom 'sends him away.' How is he going to feel about that? Total feelings of unworthiness and distrust, imo.
 
  • #22
And I am ALL FOR adoption. But you cannot give a 7yr old up for adoption and have any hope they will be fine with it. That is way too late to give your children up. SEVEN? No wonder he was so unhappy. He was totally bonded to his pathetic birth mother already. You cannot expect a 7 yr old boy to suddenly bond with another 'mom' if his first one willingly gave him away. It is one thing if she dies or CPS takes him away. That can be explained and justified. But entirely another if mom 'sends him away.' How is he going to feel about that? Total feelings of unworthiness and distrust, imo.

Well. I must disagree. My brother was adopted by his foster parents, at around age 7. My sister was 6. They weren't at all unhappy. I was --fourteen-- when I was placed in the full legal (and permanent) care of an older female relative, and as far as I'm concerned she's the only parent I ever really knew.

I must add, ALL of us were "bonded" to our own terrible mother, and I'm sure there were times when we all missed her. Though I personally can't remember any.. It wasn't all roses, but we were glad to have homes and we loved our carers, who truly deserved the term.

Older kids can be very successfully adopted, and grow up to be happy people, and go on to have lives as balanced people. Kids of 7 and beyond, given up by choice or taken by CPS - it REALLY doesn't matter. All they want is love and a family who cares, and I am sure this applies to the vast, vast majority.

Where the problem lay in this instance, IMO, is a horribly manipulative birth mother who knew exactly what buttons to push, in order to get her son on 'her side' and keep him there. And worse, involved in her process of acting out her own hatred for the adoptive parents, which of course was completely unwarranted. But psychomum projected all the crap on her liver at them, and her son bought into it because SHE put so much effort (at an extremely vulnerable time in her son's life..) into undermining every single good thing, and every single good feeling, he'd ever gained from being away from that hellbish.

I sincerely *hope* cases like this don't discourage people from adopting older children no matter how they ended up the system. There's so many out there who would truly cherish a good home. Or hey, even a clean one with regular meals included.
 
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  • #24
They all look like they've been up partying for a few days w/out any sleep to me.
Stupid people make stupid choices...jmo.
 
  • #25
Well. I must disagree. My brother was adopted by his foster parents, at around age 7. My sister was 6. They weren't at all unhappy. I was --fourteen-- when I was placed in the full legal (and permanent) care of an older female relative, and as far as I'm concerned she's the only parent I ever really knew.

I must add, ALL of us were "bonded" to our own terrible mother, and I'm sure there were times when we all missed her. Though I personally can't remember any.. It wasn't all roses, but we were glad to have homes and we loved our carers, who truly deserved the term.

Older kids can be very successfully adopted, and grow up to be happy people, and go on to have lives as balanced people. Kids of 7 and beyond, given up by choice or taken by CPS - it REALLY doesn't matter. All they want is love and a family who cares, and I am sure this applies to the vast, vast majority.

Where the problem lay in this instance, IMO, is a horribly manipulative birth mother who knew exactly what buttons to push, in order to get her son on 'her side' and keep him there. And worse, involved in her process of acting out her own hatred for the adoptive parents, which of course was completely unwarranted. But psychomum projected all the crap on her liver at them, and her son bought into it because SHE put so much effort (at an extremely vulnerable time in her son's life..) into undermining every single good thing, and every single good feeling, he'd ever gained from being away from that hellbish.

I sincerely *hope* cases like this don't discourage people from adopting older children no matter how they ended up the system. There's so many out there who would truly cherish a good home. Or hey, even a clean one with regular meals included.

I understand what you are saying. I don't want to bash adoption in any way. I am just saying that it must feel awful to an older child, like a 7 yr old, to be given up by his mother. He is already so aware and logical, at that age, compared to a toddler. But I am glad it worked out for you and your siblings. And I agree that a good home is the prime outcome.
 
  • #26
I understand what you are saying. I don't want to bash adoption in any way. I am just saying that it must feel awful to an older child, like a 7 yr old, to be given up by his mother. He is already so aware and logical, at that age, compared to a toddler. But I am glad it worked out for you and your siblings. And I agree that a good home is the prime outcome.

I wasn't actually talking about the subject of adoption in my post.

Only reason I mentioned a 7 yr. old is because there's also now a daughter this bio-mom didn't consider after she had already supposedly spent years "wishing" she could have been a good mom to her sons. The 7 yr. old needed her now, and she fails at that too. It makes me sick, and sad.
 
  • #27
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article21086565.html

Mother and son each pleaded no contest to capital murder and two counts of aggravated robbery in the 2013 shooting deaths of Bluml’s adoptive parents, Roger and Melissa Bluml, as the Blumls sat in a truck outside their rural Valley Center home...

Bluml, 20, will be sentenced June 16. Schaberg, 36, is set for sentencing June 24. Each faces life in prison without parole on a capital murder charge.
 
  • #28
from your link:

No appeals, no executions

By pleading no contest, Schaberg and Bluml relinquish their right to appeal the convictions and sentences.

Prosecutors, in exchange, have agreed to not seek the death penalty. They also dropped charges of first-degree murder, burglary and misdemeanor theft as part of the plea deals.

Ellington and Smith are scheduled for trial later this year. Smith already has negotiated a plea deal that would lessen the most severe of his charges to two counts of second-degree intentional murder in exchange for his testimony against the others.

Prosecutors plan to ask that Smith serve 24 1/2 years in prison. A judge doesn’t have to abide by the plea agreement.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article21086565.html#storylink=cpy
-----------this really only leaves ellington for trial, i wonder when his trial is slated for and if they have made him a similar deal as the son........remains to be seen i guess......

so sad for the family of melissa and roger and for the daughter of the shooter.......and of course for chris.....may he find peace :rose:


melissa and roger bluml :rose: :rose: gone too soon
 
  • #29
Andrew Ellington’s involvement in a murder-for-money plot that took the lives of a friend’s adoptive parents lasted about 90 minutes.

But he will spend nearly 38 years in prison for it.

Ellington, the third of four people convicted of killing Roger and Melissa Bluml, was ordered Thursday to serve life in prison, plus 155 months, for his role in the fatal Nov. 15, 2013, shooting outside the couple’s rural Sedgwick County home.
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article32523984.html

A Sedgwick County judge on Thursday ordered a 20-year-old man who took part in the fatal shootings of a Valley Center couple in 2013 to serve 24 1/2 years in prison.
Braden Smith is the last of the four people to be sentenced for the slayings of Roger and Melissa Bluml, who were the adoptive parents of one of his friends.

During the sentencing hearing Thursday morning, defense attorney Charles O’Hara urged the judge to follow Smith’s plea agreement, which recommended 294 months of incarceration, because Smith had cooperated with law enforcement and prosecutors handling the case.
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article41797275.html
 

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