KY - Barren Co., NtvFem UP9284, 20-50, Off Cumberland Pkwy, Aug'11 - Carma Purpura

[dotr]

Have these young women been considered??

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83399&highlight=Maisy+Odjick

Maisy is 6 feet tall...

http://www.missingpeople.net/search_for_maisy_and_shannon.htm

" Shannon Alexander is five-foot-nine, 145 pounds, with brown eyes and dark brown hair. She has acne and pierced ears, often wears a silver necklace with a feather on it, and has a scar on her left knee.

- Maisy Odjick is six feet tall, 125 pounds, with brown eyes and black hair. She has two piercings in her bottom lip and one in her left nostril, and scars on top of her right eyebrow and left forearm.

Shannon and Maisy are believed to be together. If you have any information about their whereabouts, call the Sûreté du Québec at 819-310-4141 or the Kitigan Zibi Police Department at 819-449-6000. There is a $10,000 reward for information that leads to their safe return"

 

[dotr]

This is a recent link from several weeks ago..

http://www.examiner.com/article/body-of-scalped-jane-doe-found-barren-county-ky-still-unidentified

"One detail that both police and the forensic anthropology team are both certain of is that the markings on the victim’s skull are unquestionable evidence of scalping. And, while the cause of death was gunshot wounds, police have been unable to determine the exact caliber of the weapon, although it is known that it was not a shotgun.

Police believe that the victim may have been dumped in the area where her remains were found, but it is unlikely that it was the scene of the actual murder. But what was the reason behind this bizarre scalping? Could it have been a hate crime based on her Native American descent? Or, worse yet, could she have run afoul of a Mexican drug cartel, who, according to Cora Van Olson of CrimeLibrary.com, are “known for beheading and scalping their enemies during turf wars”?

Both scenarios may be long-shot explanations, as neither drug violence nor hate crimes of this type have been reported in Ky. Unfortunately, at this point, investigators have hit a brick wall in both identifying the victim and in locating a suspect, or suspects, involved in her murder. The results of DNA testing and dental record comparisons have not been released to the public, but police have conceded that they have run out of leads. This Jane Doe deserves a name, a proper burial, and justice for her brutal slaying. Any person with information about this case should contact the Ky. State Police at 270-782-2010."

 

[dotr]

Just found this horrible, nasty news,documenting here in case there is any type of connection..

bbm.
June 14 2014
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rs-renewed-calls-for-inquiry/article19170854/

"Marlene Bird is alive, but barely.

The 47-year-old member of the Montreal Lake Cree Nation is in the burn unit of the University of Alberta Hospital in Edmonton after being found June 1 in a parking lot in Prince Albert, Sask.

Half of her face had been cut off and she was so severely burned from the waist down that her bones were visible. Doctors have had to amputate both of her legs."

 

[Frigga]

Oh.My God. Peace and blessings to Marlene Bird. What kind of monster would do this to another human being. I am stunned.

 

[bessie]

It would help to know where and when the woman was found. I'll add the date and location to the title.

 

[Ausgirl]

Just found this horrible, nasty news,documenting here in case there is any type of connection..

bbm.
June 14 2014
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rs-renewed-calls-for-inquiry/article19170854/

"Marlene Bird is alive, but barely.

The 47-year-old member of the Montreal Lake Cree Nation is in the burn unit of the University of Alberta Hospital in Edmonton after being found June 1 in a parking lot in Prince Albert, Sask.

Half of her face had been cut off and she was so severely burned from the waist down that her bones were visible. Doctors have had to amputate both of her legs."

Please give this poor lady a thread of her own, if she hasn't got one.

I hope she can help to identify her attackers eventually. This is truly the most awful attack I've heard of in a very long while.

 

[dotr]

Please give this poor lady a thread of her own, if she hasn't got one.

I hope she can help to identify her attackers eventually. This is truly the most awful attack I've heard of in a very long while.

ACTIVE SEARCH Vicious assault on Marlene Bird, Prince Albert, Sask.June/14 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Ausgirl]

Thank you, dotr. I was just too tired to navigate thread-making , so that's much appreciated.

On the case at hand, I cannot help but see scalping as a way to further degrade the victim. It's a hate crime, whichever you look at it. But I don't think it's a coincidence that she was scalped, and is of Native American descent. 'Scalping' is something that would, in my mind, translate as a terrible insult these days, since it's a historical thing and from what I have heard and read, is sometimes used as a way of insulting Native American people, as are other ways of stereotyping. Unless I'm wrong. But that's how I see it. Contempt for her race is definitely a possibility, even it wasn't a primary motive for her death.

Scalping is a pretty rare thing to happen. If this was a fetish thing for her killer, other victims will perhaps show up, or already have, and it's so rare that I would hope a link would be immediately and urgently investigated.

 

[dotr]

There was a case of scalping in 2009, the victim was male and the perp was eventually arrested. Wonder if he was ever questioned about this case?

http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2014/05/16/2174728/

"HOUSTON -- Sheriff's investigators are searching for a man they said scalped and cut portions of his victim's face after killing him last week.

Mark Andrew Boyd, 37, is wanted for the murder of Wilbur Ake. The 47-year-old Ake was killed at his north Harris County apartment about 5:30 p.m. on Sept. 23."

 

[Ausgirl]

Hair fetishists will usually cut the hair, not scalp. I can see some sicko with a powerful signature fetish taking the whole scalp if he couldn't easily cut the hair (ie, the knife blade wasn't sharp enough but the point was or something) but then, I'd expect to see other vicious attacks (vicious, because someone who could scalp a person is probably not going to be gentle) involving hair trophies.

Typical hair fetishist: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-04-05/californian-man-locked-up-over-hair-cutting-spree/1830654

The police are saying hate crime and super violent crime against women doesn't happen in Ky. Is that true? Really?

I don't think, somehow, Ky gets a pass for sick, violent murder. That said, she could have been hitching, could've been picked up by someone else also travelling through, could've been killed in another state and driven there... who knows.

 

[carbuff]

Ruleouts as of June 21 2014:

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Sharon Anderson 1950 Washington
Lauria Bible 1983 Oklahoma
Tina Finley 1962 Idaho
Martha Green 1970 Tennessee
Dawn Haines 1967 Kentucky
Melissa Montoya 1958 New Mexico
April Pitzer 1974 California
Kelly Rothwell 1976 Florida
Yvonne Scott 1972 Michigan
Rochelle White 1951 California
April Zane 1960 Illinois

 

[bflocket]

Ruleouts as of June 21 2014:

Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Sharon Anderson 1950 Washington
Lauria Bible 1983 Oklahoma
Tina Finley 1962 Idaho
Martha Green 1970 Tennessee
Dawn Haines 1967 Kentucky
Melissa Montoya 1958 New Mexico
April Pitzer 1974 California
Kelly Rothwell 1976 Florida
Yvonne Scott 1972 Michigan
Rochelle White 1951 California
April Zane 1960 Illinois

Since Sonya Bradley is not on the exclusion list, I cannot help but at least entertain the idea of this being her.

I don't mean to sound racist, but she like she "could" be Native American. She looks "white," but I could see her playing Pocahontas in a school play or being an extra in Dances With Wolves or the like and "passing" well enough to do a good job.
I live in Kentucky, as did Bradley, and my state has an "Indian" history, but not much of an "Indian" now (or even any kind recent history for that matter). The state's name is based on a Native American word. I know many (including distant family) who "claim" Native American ancestry, but it would be WAY back down the line.

Racial rant aside, I think Sonya Bradley should definitely be looked at regarding this victim.

I don't REALLY STRONGLY think it was Bradley due to the distance.
But Bradley's disappearance date (estimated date of death) fits into the parameters, her age fits, her height fits.

The only "suspect" (WD West, if he is even considered such in Bradley's case) apparently killed another person. But if he was living in Eddyville, the other person's remains were found just a county away. In fact in a county just across Kentucky Lake from Lyon Co (Eddyville). If he were to have killed two people, I don't see why he would dump one so close and someone all the way in Barren Co.

 

[carbuff]

Sonya's Charley page: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bradley_sonya.html

Porchlight: http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/index.php?showtopic=12607

Namus: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/1727/8

Doenet: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3239dfky.html -- includes mention of tattoos and jewelry

That one photo with the bead-and-bone choker sure makes her look like she's got native blood.

 

[bflocket]

That one photo with the bead-and-bone choker sure makes her look like she's got native blood.

I'd seen Sonya on Charley before because she's in my state. I recently ran across JD again and remembered the same picture you're talking about. So I looked her up again and saw that she was actually a decent match with demographics/dates/etc.

The only thing I could think of regarding the distance would be that she left with someone and was killed later. With the circumstances (child in car accident), I can't see her wanting to run off at that time. If she were indeed already stressed, I could also see throwing her hands into the air and running as far as possible and not stopping.

 

[Jacie Estes]

Interesting that Dr W. Matthews is mentioned.

Interesting read.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/native-american-anatomy.htm

 

[dotr]

Bumping this case, will look for UID thread for details, but believe that this unidentified victim is approx. 6 feet tall.
Just started a thread for LORI Lee Kasprick, a missing 6 foot tall aboriginal female from Canada, missing since 1976.
She had expressed interest in going to the US, when she was last seen at approx. 14 years of age...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...OLD-CASE-REMAINS-OPEN&p=11323807#post11323807

 

[bflocket]

I'd read of this case in the past, but don't think what I read was on WS. I was kind of surprised to see a thread about her in "Crimes In The News" (rather than UID's). I remember this becayse I was trying to figure out she got where she was.

IIRC, she was found close to a bridge on the Parkway (but not close enough to have actually been dumped from the bridge) but there wasn't really any other "places to dump from" in the immediate area. I also thought that this could have been a "historical" find rather than recent murder, but the bikini/underwear kind of nullified that thought.

Can somebody please post a link to the UID thread (if there is indeed one)? I looked through this thread and at the "suggestions" at the bottom of the page and couldn't find one.

I have trouble really searching WS. I don't remember which it was, but I was looking for either all of the missing people or UID's in KY. I found that nearly impossible unless you know more specific details about what you're looking for. "KY-" (or OH, WV, CA, etc) aren't long enough to count as words, so it disregards the abbreviations in searches and it returns ALL missing/UID's since the state doesn't count.


I found her NamUS profile. I wasn't sure if it had been posted as I just scanned through this thread, briefly looking it over looking for a UID-thread link. Sorry if it's here already. There is not yet a DoeNet profile, at least that I could find.

NamUs UP # 9284 (Barren Co, KY 8/15/2011)

Here are her rule-outs (as of today, 12/20/2014)




*****
Sorry, I found it (by searching the NamUS #). Don't know why I didn't try that, but don't know how I would have found it otherwise.
And I HAD read about her on WS, just on the UID thread I was looking for!!!

KY KY - Glasgow - NtvAmFem (UP 9284), 20-50, Found Near Beaver Creek Bridge - Aug'11

 

[bflocket]

There is also a "Crimes in the News" thread related to her.

KY - Body of Native American woman found scalped, Glasgow, August 2011

 

[Tulessa]

Some more who could fit:

Iwuna Faye Tipton
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tipton_iwuna.html

Sonya Lynn Bradley
(apparently, she had a LOT going on medically, but I don't know that any of her disorders would be noticeable on a skeleton)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bradley_sonya.html

Shannon Elaine Riley Arif
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arif_shannon.html

Erin Leigh Foster
(missing with another person)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/foster_erin.html

Heather Danielle Teague
(just thought of her because of bathing suit, but doesn't look like one found)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/teague_heather.html

rather tall for a Native American woman but let's see what's out there.

OMG thank you! I'm reading this thread with look on my face. She's not from the NC Cherokee band. That's my people! I'm 4' 11" weigh 100 pounds wet, on a good day! This may be from another Native American ethnic group though. All the women in my family are tiny.

 

[Tulessa]

Some more who could fit:

Iwuna Faye Tipton
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tipton_iwuna.html

Sonya Lynn Bradley
(apparently, she had a LOT going on medically, but I don't know that any of her disorders would be noticeable on a skeleton)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bradley_sonya.html

Shannon Elaine Riley Arif
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arif_shannon.html

Erin Leigh Foster
(missing with another person)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/foster_erin.html

Heather Danielle Teague
(just thought of her because of bathing suit, but doesn't look like one found)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/teague_heather.html

Since Sonya Bradley is not on the exclusion list, I cannot help but at least entertain the idea of this being her.

I don't mean to sound racist, but she like she "could" be Native American. She looks "white," but I could see her playing Pocahontas in a school play or being an extra in Dances With Wolves or the like and "passing" well enough to do a good job.
I live in Kentucky, as did Bradley, and my state has an "Indian" history, but not much of an "Indian" now (or even any kind recent history for that matter). The state's name is based on a Native American word. I know many (including distant family) who "claim" Native American ancestry, but it would be WAY back down the line.

Racial rant aside, I think Sonya Bradley should definitely be looked at regarding this victim.

I don't REALLY STRONGLY think it was Bradley due to the distance.
But Bradley's disappearance date (estimated date of death) fits into the parameters, her age fits, her height fits.

The only "suspect" (WD West, if he is even considered such in Bradley's case) apparently killed another person. But if he was living in Eddyville, the other person's remains were found just a county away. In fact in a county just across Kentucky Lake from Lyon Co (Eddyville). If he were to have killed two people, I don't see why he would dump one so close and someone all the way in Barren Co.

Good post! My mom is full, dad was 1/2, and she made sure her culture would not die through me.