KY KY - Boone County, OH River, WhtFem 25-50, UP6714, Scars, Edentulous, Pierced Ears, Mar'82

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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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Date of Discovery: March 21, 1982
Location of Discovery: Boone County, Kentucky
Estimated Date of Death: Weeks prior
State of Remains: Decomposed
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 25-50 years old
Race: White
Sex: Female
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 135 lbs.
Hair Color: Possibly brown with some gray, based on body hair.
Eye Color: Possibly brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Single piercing in each earlobe. 2.5" scar on left big toe. Linear scar on top of foot, crossing metatarsophalangeal joint. Stretch marks on abdomen. Tubes tied. Large breasts.

Identifiers
Dentals: Not available. Edentulous. No dentures were recovered.
Fingerprints: Not available. One partial print was obtained; too poor quality for use.
DNA: Not available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown.

Circumstances of Discovery
The decedent's body was found floating in the Ohio River in rural Boone County, Kentucky.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Kentucky Medical Examiner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Amy Burrows-Beckham
Agency Phone Number: 502-489-5209
Agency E-Mail: Amy-Burrows(at)ky.gov
Agency Case Number: OC-43-82

Agency Name: Boone County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: Detective Coy Cox
Agency Phone Number: 859-334-8496
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: B-3-82-44

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 6713
Former Hot Case Number: 2013

According to namus

Head Hair Description: missing postmortem

Looks like they screwed up...
 
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Lea Ann Allen The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
She does have blue eyes though but dark hair...perhaps JD was deceased for longer But Allen went missing in Cincinnati not too far from where JD was found about 2 weeks prior. 33 years old.

Could she be related to, also from Boone County, Kentucky 2 years prior found in water.

KY - KY - Boone Co., WhtFem UP6710, 25-40, in Ohio River, gold ring with stones, May'80
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
 
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This date of March 1982 doesn’t that coincide with a flooding on the Ohio River? Would this be a flood victim from the flooded areas affected? Surrounding state rivers that flow into the Ohio would be a prime source. Some people are missing that may not be on nameus or Doenetwork but local small counties. I will bookmark this one to do more local area searching.
 
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Lea Ann Allen The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
She does have blue eyes though but dark hair...perhaps JD was deceased for longer But Allen went missing in Cincinnati not too far from where JD was found about 2 weeks prior. 33 years old.
The remains seem to be fairly well decomposed, so I'm pretty sure it's not Lea. She went missing just days before the body was found.

This date of March 1982 doesn’t that coincide with a flooding on the Ohio River? Would this be a flood victim from the flooded areas affected? Surrounding state rivers that flow into the Ohio would be a prime source. Some people are missing that may not be on nameus or Doenetwork but local small counties. I will bookmark this one to do more local area searching.
I tried to find old weather reports but what I found were mostly things that either want you to buy a subscription or weren't detailed. But I didn't find out about more rain/snow than usual and seemed about average. And it was cold. Just not as bad as it is around here this week.

I know it seems like it was a different world back then (I wasn't even in school yet) but if she were a flood victim (i.e. she was swept away from flooding that overtook her house or her car or something), she'd probably have somebody that knew her and that she was gone. Wouldn't somebody have to let somebody know that they knew a lady that got swept away in the waters? If she happened to come up in conversation some time. Maybe not someone that knew her well enough that they would have reported her missing to the cops, but at least someone would know that she is missing and could have drowned... If there was actually considerable flooding going on.

I know you can get them from other things, but she probably had kids since she had stretch marks. I don't know how long they would last, though. And she got regular enough medical care to have gotten her tubes tied. Could she have had her tubes tied after having a baby and still have stretch marks for a while afterward?

I know it's probably just a typo, but the "dark pubic hair and one gray" on NamUS looked funny to me. And all of her hair had fallen out, rather quickly it seems. She wasn't decomposed terribly bad as they were able to note the stretch marks, scars and her, er, 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. I wonder if she had some kind of illness that would have made her hair weak or thinning.

The coordinates for the Google Map on NamUS takes you to up in the hills basically right in the middle of Boone County. The western part of Boone County (the part along the river) is pretty much undeveloped. There are only a few tiny towns along the Ohio from Warsaw (definitely not a thriving Metropolis) in the county west of Boone all the way up to Hebron/Florence/Covington. So it basically all kind of looks the same. But we don't get a real good sense of where she was actually found from the map.
 
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I was trying to visualize what our girl might have looked like...
She had no teeth but dentures weren’t found. That makes me think of all the MP I read about that mention they “wore dentures but did not have them when they went missing”. So, I think we’re probably looking for something like that.

Then the mention of her having “large breasts”... being 5’5”, 135 lbs., I think for that size and the fact it was worth noting, that’s something to look for. Even though a lot of the photos are not full body.

I’m curious about the injury to her foot. That’s a decent sized scar for it being on a toe, combined with the one on top of her foot. I think it would be about where the ball of her foot is, only on the top side. Depending on what caused it, that could be something to look for.

The hair’s confusing though...could be the difference between the higher end of the estimated age range and the lower end! Which is 25 years! lol

Basically, I guess we’re looking for a large breasted, but petite woman who lost all her teeth and may or may not have worn dentures, and dropped a bowling ball on her foot? sometime during her life?

eta: I was going to mention one thing: I don’t think the fact that she had her tubes tied and stretch marks on her belly necessarily mean that she was a mother...it doesn’t mean that she wasn’t, but those two things could have occurred for other reasons... (IMO)
 
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A brief snippet from a Cincinnati, OH, newspaper. Specifies the location the decedent was found as "near Belleview, KY" and pegs the height 4 inches below the NamUs estimate (5'1" in the article).
 

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Just a few thoughts...
About the hair or lack of, the first two things that come to mind that cause hair loss are alopecia and chemotherapy/radiotherapy. From all the things noted in the autopsy it seems our JD might have had a few health problems in her life.
 
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Just a few thoughts...
About the hair or lack of, the first two things that come to mind that cause hair loss are alopecia and chemotherapy/radiotherapy. From all the things noted in the autopsy it seems our JD might have had a few health problems in her life.
Forgive me if I’ve overlooked it, but where are you reading her autopsy?
 
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Sorry, I've not read the autopsy report. I'm just going by what's been said here about her lack of hair, lack of teeth etc. I should have said IMO. Again sorry for the confusion.
 
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(? for ME) clarification on height
 
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‘We can’t explain this one:’ NKY investigators struggle with cold case of drowned woman
Mar. 20, 2021
''BOONE COUNTY, Ky. (FOX19/WYMT) - An investigation into the decades-old case of a missing woman found washed ashore on the Ohio River has been complicated by a piece of evidence that got lost along the way — namely, the woman’s hand.

Boone County authorities have been trying to identify the young woman’s body since March 1982.

Boone County Sheriff’s Office Det. Coy Cox says a man found the woman on the banks of the Ohio River on his property near Anderson Ferry.

Cox says authorities believe the woman drowned nearby and had been in the water for around six weeks when she was found.

Investigators have hit several dead ends trying to identify her.

“Sometimes you have to step up to the plate and say, ‘Hey, we can’t explain this one,’” Cox said. “No one has ever even called to say, ‘Hey, that could be this person.’”

Cox adds there isn’t even a missing person report for the woman.''

''Then, according to Cox, the medical examiner severed one of the woman’s hands and sent it to the FBI for testing.

“But that hand is missing somewhere in the trail of things,” Cox said.

He explains they have no record of getting it back from the FBI, though the bureau did mail a letter saying they were sending it.

“It’s highly unusual,” Cox said. “It’s embarrassing. But I’m not blaming the FBI. I’m not blaming our forensics people. I’m not blaming our medical examiner. I’m taking the blame. I’m the one who’s in custody of the case in this point in time.”

''if you have any information in the case or have a loved one who disappeared around that time with a similar description, you’re urged to contact the Boone County Sheriff’s Office at (859) 334-2175.''
 
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Can't fathom how she'd end up in Kentucky, but stranger things have happened.
Seems as good as any. Should be an easy enough comparison using dentals (Ina only mentions upper dentures, but that doesn’t necessarily mean much). Her CP profile says “Authorities believe Arnall left of her own accord. She may have traveled to Nevada or San Francisco, California after her disappearance.” FWIW.
 
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Bumping for JD.

I think Ina Arnall is a pretty decent possibility. I wouldn’t disregard based on the large distance. Does anyone know if she was submitted?

Estimated age and height (from article above) are within range and also stretch marks on both were noted.

Still showing the same 2 exclusions.

 

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