KY - Breonna Taylor, 26, unarmed, fatally shot multiple times by police, Louisville, 13 Mar 2020

[JerseyGirl]

“It is so insulting that you would say that the neighbors’ lives matter more than Breonna Taylor’s life,” Taylor’s cousin Tawanna Gordon told reporters, arguing the officers were negligent.

She called her cousin’s death “a wound that never heals.”

“Our family is grieving all over again. It is March 13 all over again for us,” Gordon said. “We are not surprised, but we definitely still had hoped that they would do the right thing.”

She said the grand jury’s decision was emblematic of racial inequity in United States.

“Our lives matter. And today they told us that they did not, as they have always told us in this country … that we are three-fifths of a human,” Gordon said. “When you put animals before you put us, it’s something wrong with this country.”

Cousin: Breonna Taylor’s death ‘a wound that never heals’ | WOODTV.com

The group at Rosa Parks Circle marched for solidarity to the Grand Rapids Police Department headquarters where Chief Eric Payne took a knee with them. A moment of silence was held for 26 seconds in honor of Taylor, who was 26 years old at the time of her death.

“I believe in you,” Payne told Taylor’s family.

The family thanked Payne for sticking to his word and joining them.

Grand Rapids City Manager Mark Washington also joined the crowd outside of the police department headquarters.

“We mourn for her and her family and we empathize … I can only imagine how she feels. I couldn’t imagine how it would feel to be robbed of that so young and so innocently,” Washington said.

Separately, the city released a statement encouraging anyone who went out to demonstrate to follow coronavirus mitigation practices like social distancing and wearing a mask.

 

[tresir2012]

So all of that to say, there would have been no shot fired if the police had not instigated the chain of events that led them to Breonnas door.

Ultimately, the responsibility for what happened lies with the police. They are after all, supposed to be a professional organisation.

The system may have allowed them slip through with this horrendous miscarriage of justice, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t rotten to the core.

If her ex was not using her address for his car registration and post then the whole thing would never have even happened in the first place. Her address would not ever have been connected to him at all. MOO.

 

[Alderyn]

If her ex was not using her address for his car registration and post then the whole thing would never have even happened in the first place. Her address would not ever have been connected to him at all. MOO.

In a just reasonable world it would be the responsibility of the professional police force to practice due diligence to learn that information before putting the people they are meant to protect in situations where everyone loses and a state agency commits violence.

The onus is on the professional stage body, the police force, to conduct their affairs in a manner that does not put people in harms way. They failed through their own negligence to fully investigate before making the call that Breonna’s apartment had to be raided, had to be raided in the manner it was, that their threat assessment on the residence was so wrong, and the fact that they sent officers in there who clearly did not have the training or the temperament for this type of police work.


The ex is a private citizen* as was Breonna. They are not the ones responsible for policies and procedures and department culture that allowed these officers to go in with incomplete information and training.

*being accused of or being a criminal or engaging in criminal activity does not change the fact that these actions are taken as private citizen. A private citizen’s actions are not the same as actions taken by state sanction tax payer funded law enforcement officers.

 

[IceIce9]

If her ex was not using her address for his car registration and post then the whole thing would never have even happened in the first place. Her address would not ever have been connected to him at all. MOO.

This is so true yet many or most will overlook this fact.

 

[tresir2012]

In a just reasonable world it would be the responsibility of the professional police force to practice due diligence to learn that information before putting the people they are meant to protect in situations where everyone loses and a state agency commits violence.

The onus is on the professional stage body, the police force, to conduct their affairs in a manner that does not put people in harms way. They failed through their own negligence to fully investigate before making the call that Breonna’s apartment had to be raided, had to be raided in the manner it was, that their threat assessment on the residence was so wrong, and the fact that they sent officers in there who clearly did not have the training or the temperament for this type of police work.


The ex is a private citizen* as was Breonna. They are not the ones responsible for policies and procedures and department culture that allowed these officers to go in with incomplete information and training.

*being accused of or being a criminal or engaging in criminal activity does not change the fact that these actions are taken as private citizen. A private citizen’s actions are not the same as actions taken by state sanction tax payer funded law enforcement officers.

Unfortunately we do not live in a just and reasonable world. We live in a world where criminals take advantage of innocent victims all the time. It was a tragedy and that is not in debate at all IMO.

 

[kaen]

Breonna Taylor case: Report details why police wanted to search home

In looking at the photos from Ms. Taylor's apartment (especially the ones from the glass sliding door and through the vertical blinds, it is amazing the Hankinson did not kill Ms. Taylor, Mr. Walker and the other officers. To shoot blindly in an apartment through blinds and have the bullets go where they went was more than reckless.

Thank goodness that Ms. Taylor's sister was not at home that evening or she could have been killed as well.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

Breonna Taylor case: Report details why police wanted to search home

In looking at the photos from Ms. Taylor's apartment (especially the ones from the glass sliding door and through the vertical blinds, it is amazing the Hankinson did not kill Ms. Taylor, Mr. Walker and the other officers. To shoot blindly in an apartment through blinds and have the bullets go where they went was more than reckless.

Thank goodness that Ms. Taylor's sister was not at home that evening or she could have been killed as well.

Couldn't agree more. Hankison deserves the charges against him. I don't have the link in front of me but upthread there was an article that said officer Mattingly observed Hankison really jacked up & had to calm him down before the raid.

 

[ilovewings]

There is no evidence the officers were negligent. The only exception is for the one officer who is being charged with wanton endangerment, not negligence. I just want to clarify this fact.

It really isn't a fact, it is your opinion: others believe it was negligence.

 

[ilovewings]

So?

Double So!! LOL

 

[Kimmer]

So the results of Grand Juries are not going to be respected?

Whose gun actually killed Breonna or was it a ricochet? Or from several of the officers guns? How many shots did her boyfriend fire?

I haven't fully followed all the details.

we have no ideas what bullet killed Breonna because the AG has yet to release the information about the FBI ballistic report, we also are not sure if it was even Kenneth Walker (the boyfriends) bullet that struck the officer for sure when his projectile was recovered in the apartment there was no blood on it. and again since the ballistics have not been released we don't know for sure. Kenneth Walker fired 1 bullet when he thought the home was being broken into. And after the shooting when the officers left the home and retreated to the parking lot Kenneth Walker called 911 to ask LE to please come and help someone had kicked in the door and shot his girlfriend he did that because he still had no idea it was LE who broke down the door also the officers were in plain clothes and in unmarked cars.
I hope this helps explain a little of what happened.

 

[Kimmer]

Not sure they said none of Hankison's shots entered the Taylor apt.

Hankinson shot from the parking lot into Breonna's apartment through the patio door that was covered by curtains he was not indicted for shooting into her apartment but was because his bullets traveled through her apartment into 3 other apartment he also fired through a window into the bedroom of Breonna's sister who was not home at the time.
if you go back and look at the released photos from upthread you will see all the markers in the parking lot from the spent casings from Hankinson's gun.

 

[Kimmer]

In your opinion, what should officers do if they are fired upon?

I am not saying LE should not have the right to fire back if fired on.
But announcing you are LE would be the first step so a homeowner is a stand your ground state would solve some of this issue Breonna's home was considered a "soft target" so a NKW would not have been needed.
Then after they were fired upon they should have stayed in the apartment and cuffed the person shooting while also rendering aid to the person they shot, not retreat to the parking lot so the homeowner still had no idea it was LE and without LE knowing if they killed all in the home after 32 shots.

 

[Kimmer]

I think the officer that obtained the warrant has been suspended. Also, I don't believe how the warrant was obtained has any relevance as to whether the officers were juustified in returning fire. Also, I see nothing sinister in the Governor & Mayor learning some new information at the same time as the public. I would agree there were many errors made in this case & you characterize it as stinks to high heaven. However, even though the GJ may not have been given everything you would like, they were charged with determing whether the officers should be charged with her death. The GJ was not investigating if this was a screwed up mess. jmo

I have to with respect disagree with the fact that the warrant has no bearing on this case, that was the first cog in this disaster so saying that lying to get the warrant did not set all of this in motion is like saying a person who gets drunk in a bar and kills someone with there car has no bearing with them being arrested for vehicular homicide.
and to simply suspend someone who lies to a Judge that results in an innocent person being killed just makes no sense to me. again with the upmost respect for your opinion.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

we have no ideas what bullet killed Breonna because the AG has yet to release the information about the FBI ballistic report, we also are not sure if it was even Kenneth Walker (the boyfriends) bullet that struck the officer for sure when his projectile was recovered in the apartment there was no blood on it. and again since the ballistics have not been released we don't know for sure. Kenneth Walker fired 1 bullet when he thought the home was being broken into. And after the shooting when the officers left the home and retreated to the parking lot Kenneth Walker called 911 to ask LE to please come and help someone had kicked in the door and shot his girlfriend he did that because he still had no idea it was LE who broke down the door also the officers were in plain clothes and in unmarked cars.
I hope this helps explain a little of what happened.

Are you saying you don't believe the FBI report because you have not seen it? I see no reason the AG would lie about it. In the press conference the AG said the bullet that struck Mattingly was from Walkers gun even saying where it entered and exited. Of course he could be lying.

 

[Kimmer]

Why wasn't Walker hit by any of the 32 shots but Breonna got 6 of them? Has that been explained?

By the grace of god is my explanation.

 

[Kimmer]

Are you saying you don't believe the FBI report because you have not seen it? I see no reason the AG would lie about it. In the press conference the AG said the bullet that struck Mattingly was from Walkers gun even saying where it entered and exited. Of course he could be lying.

No I am in no way saying I don't believe the ballistics report I am saying we need to see it to determine ourselves if what we are being told is truthful.

 

[CSIDreamer]

No I am in no way saying I don't believe the ballistics report I am saying we need to see it to determine ourselves if what we are being told is truthful.

I want to see the complete autopsy report. Jmo

 

[Kimmer]

If her ex was not using her address for his car registration and post then the whole thing would never have even happened in the first place. Her address would not ever have been connected to him at all. MOO.

Please do not take this as I am covering for Glover because I am not and I won't but the fact that he was using her address to have packages delivered to is not indicitive of drugs being funneled through her address, LMPD had already been told by the postal inspector who can open packages and see the contents that there were no drugs being funneled through that manner the fact the LMPD lied about that on the warrant application is more of a problem for me.. Breonna made some terrible choices when it came to Glover there is no denying that, but does making a bad choice or a boyfriend, ex boyfriend deserve the death penalty I think not. And you have mentioned illegal activity by her current boyfriend Kenneth Walker can you fill me in on what that was?

 

[JudgeJoe]

Are you saying you don't believe the FBI report because you have not seen it? I see no reason the AG would lie about it. In the press conference the AG said the bullet that struck Mattingly was from Walkers gun even saying where it entered and exited. Of course he could be lying.

In the spirit of truth, what would be wrong with the transparency of actually seeing & reviewing the report? So much is disturbing in this case; I don’t think a responsible citizen should take the word of someone whose job it is to defend his employers. Moo

 

[tayaway]

In the spirit of truth, what would be wrong with the transparency of actually seeing & reviewing the report? So much is disturbing in this case; I don’t think a responsible citizen should take the word of someone whose job it is to defend his employers. Moo

Transparency is needed, for the benefit of all sides.