KY KY - Crystal Rogers, 35, Bluegrass Parkway, 3 July 2015 #1

[Cardinal47]

Crystal's story was on NG last evening. Nothing much new. Her father did say the reason he and Brooke didn't get along was due to one of the children. Something happened there.

Listening to the defense attorneys I did wonder if perhaps Crystal went out for something and was carjacked. It could have happened that way.

I can't figure out what happened. Does anybody remember if the car was placed in the direction of heading home or heading in the other way. Also is there a gas station or convenience store in the area she could be heading to or from.

The diaper bag in the car could be one she kept there for traveling with a small child. Just kept it in the car all the time. Her purse, keys and cell would go with her.

Aren't there one or two other women that have disappeared from around there with similar circumstances?

They did have to have some good reason to be able to get a search warrant and search his family farm. They weren't there long just in and out so I think they were looking for something in particular.

This one is a puzzle.

 

[jULIA_bEE]

Crystal's story was on NG last evening. Nothing much new. Her father did say the reason he and Brooke didn't get along was due to one of the children. Something happened there.

Listening to the defense attorneys I did wonder if perhaps Crystal went out for something and was carjacked. It could have happened that way.

I can't figure out what happened. Does anybody remember if the car was placed in the direction of heading home or heading in the other way. Also is there a gas station or convenience store in the area she could be heading to or from.

The diaper bag in the car could be one she kept there for traveling with a small child. Just kept it in the car all the time. Her purse, keys and cell would go with her.

Aren't there one or two other women that have disappeared from around there with similar circumstances?

They did have to have some good reason to be able to get a search warrant and search his family farm. They weren't there long just in and out so I think they were looking for something in particular.

This one is a puzzle.

Her car was in the opposite direction of where she lived. I think I heard something about a girl missing from Grayson co but I'll have to check. A Bardstown officer was basically ambushed getting off one of the exits of the Parkway about two years ago. They've never found who did it. Not long after that, a woman and her teenage daughter from Nelson county were found murdered in their home. They never solved that one either.


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[Ros]

honeybun1807, Larissa Sam is missing in Indianapolis, a few hundred miles north. Her car was found with a flat tire, cell phone Inside with no sim card. http://fox59.com/2015/06/25/missing-police-search-for-missing-23-year-old-larissa-sam/

 

[krig101]

Crystal's story was on NG last evening. Nothing much new. Her father did say the reason he and Brooke didn't get along was due to one of the children. Something happened there.

Listening to the defense attorneys I did wonder if perhaps Crystal went out for something and was carjacked. It could have happened that way.

I can't figure out what happened. Does anybody remember if the car was placed in the direction of heading home or heading in the other way. Also is there a gas station or convenience store in the area she could be heading to or from.

The diaper bag in the car could be one she kept there for traveling with a small child. Just kept it in the car all the time. Her purse, keys and cell would go with her.

Aren't there one or two other women that have disappeared from around there with similar circumstances?

They did have to have some good reason to be able to get a search warrant and search his family farm. They weren't there long just in and out so I think they were looking for something in particular.

This one is a puzzle.

Her father did say the reason he and Brooke didn't get along was due to one of the children. Something happened there.

Hmmmmm Wish we knew more.

Where there's smoke there's fire.


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[Cardinal47]

honeybun1807, Larissa Sam is missing in Indianapolis, a few hundred miles north. Her car was found with a flat tire, cell phone Inside with no sim card. http://fox59.com/2015/06/25/missing-police-search-for-missing-23-year-old-larissa-sam/

Thank you. Not to far away and similar circumstances.

I was thinking there was another blonde haired woman that disappeared and looked like Crystal.

Maybe I was mixed up and it was the circumstances not looks that were alike.

 

[stefanrae]

Thank you. Not to far away and similar circumstances.

I was thinking there was another blonde haired woman that disappeared and looked like Crystal.

Maybe I was mixed up and it was the circumstances not looks that were alike.

You might be thinking of Melvia Roarx from Caneyville who disappeared in 2013. She is also a young, blonde woman. Her van was found abandoned on I-65 near Lebanon Junction.

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[karenky]

Her car was in the opposite direction of where she lived. I think I heard something about a girl missing from Grayson co but I'll have to check. A Bardstown officer was basically ambushed getting off one of the exits of the Parkway about two years ago. They've never found who did it. Not long after that, a woman and her teenage daughter from Nelson county were found murdered in their home. They never solved that one either.


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Websleuths links to the other 2 Bardstown unsolved murder cases.

Kathy and Samantha Netherland

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?242249-KY-Police-asking-for-help-in-Nelson-Co-double-homicide

Bardstown's City Police Office Jason Ellis
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-of-Officer-Jason-Ellis-33-Bardstown-May-2013

 

[Dmacky]

Has anyone said publicly that they were expecting her? Has her cousin confirmed that she would often come to spend the night? Would she do so unannounced?

Her cousin said she would always call before she came, but that she had not heard from her that day or night at all.
I can't remember which article I saw that in, or heard that on the news., BUT I promise I did read/hear it!

 

[Eileen730]

Anyone wonder if there was perhaps someone else in the picture?

 

[krig101]

Her cousin said she would always call before she came, but that she had not heard from her that day or night at all.
I can't remember which article I saw that in, or heard that on the news., BUT I promise I did read/hear it!

Interesting.......

Anyone wonder if there was perhaps someone else in the picture?

I guess yes but on more likely on BH's side.....

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[Cardinal47]

Her cousin said she would always call before she came, but that she had not heard from her that day or night at all.
I can't remember which article I saw that in, or heard that on the news., BUT I promise I did read/hear it!

Last evening on the NG show Crystal's father was on and he said he talked to the cousin, his niece and she is the one that told him Crystal would call and bring the baby with her. She did NOT hear from her that day/night.

 

[Cardinal47]

Anyone wonder if there was perhaps someone else in the picture?

Yes I have thought that because there were two or three before BH that we know of. But if she was meeting up with somebody I think phone records would show who and when she talked to anybody.

 

[Ros]

Interesting that one other Bardstown area case involves a Chevy Impala and the other involves the Bluegrass Parkway. Probably coincidence though.


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[SchoolgirlShamus]

I saw bits and pieces of the report on Nancy Grace tonight. If I'm not mistaken, I believe her car was found almost 12 miles away from where her boyfriend lives. This of course would mean that he couldn't have planted the car there, staged the scene and walked home. He would need a ride or an accomplice were that the case.

I don't understand this notion that the boyfriend (or, whoever) couldn't have walked 12 to 10 to whatever miles to a town from the broken-down vehicle. Not only would it not take all night to walk it, it wouldn't even take half the night! It would take 3 hours maybe, at normal walking pace. And if you've got a highly-motivated person who is jogging some of the way, it'd take even less time.

A flat tire would suck for a perp staging the vehicle, sure. But the location of the breakdown is in NO way PROOF that the perp had to have an accomplice following him to get home and/or get anywhere! That's nonsense. Are people truly this unfamiliar with how long it takes to walk X number of miles?

I think it'd be helpful going forward with this case to eliminate the supposed unlikelihood of someone leaving the car on foot. It's entirely feasible that someone could have done so.

 

[concernedmother]

I don't understand this notion that the boyfriend (or, whoever) couldn't have walked 12 to 10 to whatever miles to a town from the broken-down vehicle. Not only would it not take all night to walk it, it wouldn't even take half the night! It would take 3 hours maybe, at normal walking pace. And if you've got a highly-motivated person who is jogging some of the way, it'd take even less time.

A flat tire would suck for a perp staging the vehicle, sure. But the location of the breakdown is is in NO way PROOF that the perp had to have an accomplice following him to get home and/or get anywhere! That's nonsense. Are people truly this unfamiliar with how long it takes to walk X number of miles?

I think it'd be helpful going forward with this case to eliminate the supposed unlikelihood of someone leaving the car on foot. It's entirely feasible that someone did so.

Didnt he have the baby with him?

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

When he went to bed if everything was okay between them why would she be gone when he got up? Why wouldn't he be worried? Why wouldn't he call her? I can understand if he thought maybe she got up and went to the store but after a few hours you would call.

That's a very good point. She could have had all kinds of reasons for being gone when he got up.

So... BF wakes up on the morning of the 4th, around 8 am, and Crystal and her car were gone. Was the 2 1/2 y.o. child in bed normally, as in, likely was put to bed by the mama the night before? Did he sleep in a crib still? Was he in the crib, or sleeping on the couch or something? If he had a bed, was he in it? Tucked in or not? Wearing pajamas or not? Had he been put in a fresh nighttime diaper or not?

And there was a second child there, or was there? I have read this whole thread and I'm still not clear on that. Could be my brain being foggy; please enlighten me if I'm wrong. If another child was in the home, how old was s/he? Did the BF take both of them with him to the family event on the 4th?

Back to his waking, that morning. IF this couple didn't have a fight the night before, which is something he never did address on NG (IIRC) [and seemingly he could not answer the simple question of dinner, either...], why would he assume she was at her cousin's? Did he call the cousin? Did he call Crystal to see if she was at a store or something? Why did he assume she was gone overnight and had left in the night? If he woke up around 8, maybe she woke up at 7:30 and just ran some errands. But he seems rather sure she had been gone some time. Interesting.

I don't know. I just don't like this. So far -- my opinion, as always, subject to change upon receipt of new info -- it smacks of other 'eraser' killings. ("Ohhh my missing wife! Where could she be?" Calm demeanor, smooth talking, glib, not very emotional.) Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson, Josh Powell, Mark Hacking, and on and on and on.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

Didnt he have the baby with him?

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I was referring to her car's abandoned position. We don't know who drove her car there, him or her or anyone, nor when they did so. Why would the assumption be that the child was there too...?

 

[krig101]

Didnt he have the baby with him?

Unless he left the child at home or Had someone watch the child that is not speaking up. Or just walked with the child being on full adrenaline. I can see all of the above being possible.

I hope Crystal is found soon!!!!

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[SchoolgirlShamus]

Unless he left the child at home or Had someone watch the child that is not speaking up. Or just walked with the child being on full adrenaline. I can see all of the above being possible.

Oh, meaning the child must have been with him if he is the person who staged the vehicle?

Well... I have no idea why the assumption would be that he took the child with him after disposing of mother and staging her car, instead of leaving child at home. (Again, assuming that's what happened.) For all we know, the little one slept soundly for 9+ hours in his own bed. Nothing really addresses this.

This wasn't in an apartment building where people might hear unusual child crying throughout a night. It was a standalone house. And assuming the child did somehow wake up to find all grownups gone, who would have ever known?! No one would have heard the crying. And he was too little to use the phone, etc. :-(

 

[fhc]

Another blonde, Paige Johnson, went missing in Kentucky in 2010. She also had a 2 yo.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?116134-KY-Paige-Johnson-17-Florence-23-Sept-2010