KY KY - Crystal Rogers, 35, Bluegrass Parkway, 3 July 2015 #2

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  • #361
Being a suspect would he be allowed to leave the area?

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From what I think I don't believe he is an upstanding law abiding citizen so whether he's "allowed" to leave town or not isn't an issue to him. Imo he could be liquidating his assets for multiple reasons: 1) legal fees he's about to incur &/or 2) relocation expenses. If he's selling off properties then that's very telling as well.


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  • #362
I think that the little boy is in danger.
If he keeps asking his father what happened to Mommy - or asks his father why did he do that - any number of questions, really, that azzhole could snap on him.

I'd say anyone close to that troglodyte's in danger..
 
  • #363
From what I think I don't believe he is an upstanding law abiding citizen so whether he's "allowed" to leave town or not isn't an issue to him. Imo he could be liquidating his assets for multiple reasons: 1) legal fees he's about to incur &/or 2) relocation expenses. If he's selling off properties then that's very telling as well.


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Right! He is probably thinking he already broke the law so might as well keep going. His recent actions do look very suspicious of someone who is guilty. Hope an arrest is coming soon.

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  • #364
http://m.wlky.com/news/parents-of-c...to-keep-boyfriend-from-leaving-state/37264936

Right now, they visit him every other Saturday. But they said his siblings can't see him.

"I keep telling them it is coming. It is coming. It is coming and it keeps getting, you know, they are just kind of giving up on seeing him. They are like are we ever going to get to see him or not," said Ballard.



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  • #365
http://m.wlky.com/news/parents-of-c...to-keep-boyfriend-from-leaving-state/37264936

Right now, they visit him every other Saturday. But they said his siblings can't see him.

"I keep telling them it is coming. It is coming. It is coming and it keeps getting, you know, they are just kind of giving up on seeing him. They are like are we ever going to get to see him or not," said Ballard.



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That is just heartbreaking :( Those children ALL need each other right now.

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  • #366
I still am thinking the judge possibly wants less confusion for the toddler but what's Brooks excuse/reason?! Pathetic

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  • #367
http://www.whas11.com/story/news/lo...rogers-parents-boyfriend-back-court/78374894/

"His lawyer said he wouldn't leave so our lawyer said you know, he would be in trouble if he did," said George.

Besides keeping Houck in the state, the Ballards are also seeking expanded visitation with their grandson Eli. They say right now they are only allowed to see him for a few hours at a time and that no other family members are allowed to attend.




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38 counts of perjury is a LOT!
A lot of lying going on....<shocker> :gaah:

Justice needs to be served and Crystal returned home.
So glad they got this guy. Thankfully he is not a good liar! Wonder if he has taken a poly.



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  • #371
I'm a little puzzled about these perjury charges. If this employee of Houck's lied about 38 different things, does that mean he himself may be a suspect, or that he simply had intimate knowledge of the actual details and chose to try and deceive the grand jury ?

This whole process seems a little weird. If they know he lied about 38 different things, then wouldn't the truth be the complete opposite of how he answered the questions ? Somebody help and refresh my memory, did either one of the Houck brothers testify in front of the grand jury ?? Do we know for sure ?
 
  • #372
I'm a little puzzled about these perjury charges. If this employee of Houck's lied about 38 different things, does that mean he himself may be a suspect, or that he simply had intimate knowledge of the actual details and chose to try and deceive the grand jury ?

This whole process seems a little weird. If they know he lied about 38 different things, then wouldn't the truth be the complete opposite of how he answered the questions ? Somebody help and refresh my memory, did either one of the Houck brothers testify in front of the grand jury ??
Not that we've been told.... Fingers crossed for details of what this guy lied about

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  • #373
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30906858/...ury-in-crystal-rogers-case-due-in-court-today

Arraignment is scheduled today for the man accused of perjury in the disappearance of a Nelson County woman.

Hopefully more info comes out today regarding this!

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Singleton appeared before a judge this morning, where a not guilty plea was entered on his behalf.

Singleton was given a public defender, who may not be his actual attorney in the long run. The attorney said she may have a conflict of interest, that she plans to disclose to the judge and the Commonwealth's Attorney.

The public defender asked that Singleton's bond of $200,000 be lowered, but the Commonwealth objected, saying he is a flight risk.

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Singleton appeared before a judge this morning, where a not guilty plea was entered on his behalf.

Singleton was given a public defender, who may not be his actual attorney in the long run. The attorney said she may have a conflict of interest, that she plans to disclose to the judge and the Commonwealth's Attorney.

The public defender asked that Singleton's bond of $200,000 be lowered, but the Commonwealth objected, saying he is a flight risk.

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I have a feeling this guy will make a plea deal when police start showing evidence they have on him. IMO

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  • #375
I'm a little puzzled about these perjury charges. If this employee of Houck's lied about 38 different things, does that mean he himself may be a suspect, or that he simply had intimate knowledge of the actual details and chose to try and deceive the grand jury ?

This whole process seems a little weird. If they know he lied about 38 different things, then wouldn't the truth be the complete opposite of how he answered the questions ? Somebody help and refresh my memory, did either one of the Houck brothers testify in front of the grand jury ?? Do we know for sure ?

So they don't have to consider him a suspect or an accomplice to get perjury charges, just be able to prove that he lied to a grand jury. But that certainly means that there was likely a grand jury convened to see if charges could be brought against BH. (Forgive me if I'm late to the party and just figured that out when everyone else knew it). I need an atty to answer if perjury can/will result in "accessory after the fact" charges, or would the Prosecutor just let it go at perjury? Certainly could also be obstruction of justice...but perhaps perjury is the "worst" of all those charges, so that's what they went with, or that they felt they could only meet the burden of proof of perjury now, but if BH were ever convicted, I would think this person if he doesn't speak up and tell the truth, could certainly face other charges.

But they may not know the "true" answers just that the answers he gave were false. e.g. can be proven by something else...what immediately comes to mind are things that other people have maybe verified. like a question about when something happened or if something happened, and then evidence comes to light later on (like he's caught on video somewhere, or a time stamp from a receipt) they may be able to prove he lied, but not know "everything".

I do not remember the Houck brothers testifying to the GJ, but I can't imagine a defendant would in a situation like this. The GJ is only to determine if charges can be brought. But clearly there WAS a GJ convened.

The have to pressure this guy until he breaks. He knows what happened.
 
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http://www.whas11.com/story/news/crime/2016/01/07/brooks-houck-crystal-rogers--danny-singleton/78410756/

Crystal's father said they ask if they could talk to Danny Singleton thinking they could convince him to tell them where Crystal is located. He said they were not allowed.

The Ballard family left the courthouse and went to search near the Boston (KY) area. The search dogs from Florida are back in town.

I think Crystals family should show up on visitation day and ask to see him anyway, what could it hurt ? The answer will either be yes or no....from Singleton himself.

Whatever the "experts" are doing isn't yielding any results, so maybe the family could guilt him into coughing up some information.

This is just turning into a circus, and not a circus that is fun to watch either.
 
  • #378
I think Crystals family should show up on visitation day and ask to see him anyway, what could it hurt ? The answer will either be yes or no....from Singleton himself.

Whatever the "experts" are doing isn't yielding any results, so maybe the family could guilt him into coughing up some information.

This is just turning into a circus, and not a circus that is fun to watch either.

The judge said the family couldn't talk to him right? So what's to stop someone else, other than family, from seeing & talking to him....might be worth a shot ya know.


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  • #379
The judge said the family couldn't talk to him right? So what's to stop someone else, other than family, from seeing & talking to him....might be worth a shot ya know.


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I have no knowledge of this, but would find it highly improbable that a random person could just walk up to a jail and visit with someone who is an inmate...But I fully acknowledge I could be 100,000,000% wrong.
 
  • #380
I have no knowledge of this, but would find it highly improbable that a random person could just walk up to a jail and visit with someone who is an inmate...But I fully acknowledge I could be 100,000,000% wrong.

The way it works in most jails, the inmate is informed that he has a visitor that wants to meet and speak with him. It's up to the inmate if he wants to have a sit-down chat with the visitor. There's been a whole lot of incriminating evidence obtained through the years via a scenario just like that. Usually it's the inmates phone calls that are recorded though, not so much their personal visitations.
It's hard to have recorders everywhere, all the time.

I don't understand why this guy didn't just get up on the stand and take the fifth, none of this would even be happening. I guess he must not have had any legal counsel at the time.........or

Maybe part of the problem here is that Singleton was obviously toying with the prosecutor and deliberately furnishing bogus answers to the questions, in an attempt to help Houck. Being a wise-🤬🤬🤬, so to speak. It may have angered the prosecutor to the point that what we're seeing now is payback for swaying the grand jury to the point that it wouldn't indict Houck. His answers to the questions may have been so outrageous and bias, that they actually created doubts in the minds of the grand jury. The prosecutor may have known he was lying, but that doesn't mean the grand jury knew it as well.

For example: "Do you know where BH was the evening before Crystal went missing ?" Singleton: "Yeah, he was with me at the lake. We rented a cabin and spent that entire week fishing at Lake So-and-So. "

As we all know, Houck has been neither indicted or charged. Maybe Singleton and his testimony is part of the reason.
 
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