KY - Laken Snelling, 21, arrested after giving birth and infant was found in closet - Sept 2025

  • #341
All of the onus is being placed on this gal without answers to the outstanding questions: 1) what was the gestational age? 2) did Conner dump her over the Summer? He clearly was cupping her pregnant belly in the June 2025 photo shoot. Unless he is the stupidest male on the planet, he had to have known she was pregnant. 3) how come no one noticed she was pregnant? She lived in Tennessee at her parents’ house during the summer. 4) did she seek OBGYN care?
 
  • #342
For those who knew or thought she might be pregnant, perhaps she planned to claim a miscarriage.

She may also have been playing the pregnancy as shared with the new bf, realizing she could never deliver a full term baby and claim him as the father, due to timing.

She may not have had a good plan -- or any plan at all -- and went into labor unexpectedly. She may have been a couple weeks early...

If I had to guess, it was a combination of factors ...

And some really awful decisioning.

JMO
 
  • #343
To clarify, if we play this out --

Speculation: she wanted a fairytale and thought she could rewrite some history -- claim the pregnancy was fun her new bf -- gain a kind of intimacy bond --

Had the roommates not entered her room/closet, what would they have thought? If they thought she was pregnant, at a certain point (when she regained her pre-pregnancy shape), they'd have to notice she didn't look pregnant anymore. Would they suspect a miscarriage, deem it hugely personal, and leave it at that?

She could tell the new bf she miscarried, and he'd never know he wasn't the father...

If she intended to terminate this baby's life, how was she going to control her delivery? Convenient that she was home, in her room, laboring over night. But what if she was in class? Somewhere public when her water broke? Babies come when they come.

It's still possible that she was in a sort of deliberate denial, telling herself she'd know what to do when the time came, especially if playing the baby off as her new boyfriend's was part of her (il)logic. Moving forward without a gameplan.

However, I seriously doubt she planned to present a surprise baby to friends and family.

Assuming the new bf knew she was pregnant, it's logical to assume he didn't know how pregnant she was (as in, how far along). If she delivers and discards that baby, she can grossly hide behind the sad grief (that real women experience every day) for "having lost the baby". "Please don't talk about it. It's too painful." Like I said, gross. Gross if she killed her baby and then pretended to grieve a miscarriage. Killing and hiding that baby checked all her boxes.

And none of the baby's.

Signing up for fall classes tells me she never intended for that baby to live.

JMO
 
  • #344
To clarify, if we play this out --

Speculation: she wanted a fairytale and thought she could rewrite some history -- claim the pregnancy was fun her new bf -- gain a kind of intimacy bond --

Had the roommates not entered her room/closet, what would they have thought? If they thought she was pregnant, at a certain point (when she regained her pre-pregnancy shape), they'd have to notice she didn't look pregnant anymore. Would they suspect a miscarriage, deem it hugely personal, and leave it at that?

She could tell the new bf she miscarried, and he'd never know he wasn't the father...

If she intended to terminate this baby's life, how was she going to control her delivery? Convenient that she was home, in her room, laboring over night. But what if she was in class? Somewhere public when her water broke? Babies come when they come.

It's still possible that she was in a sort of deliberate denial, telling herself she'd know what to do when the time came, especially if playing the baby off as her new boyfriend's was part of her (il)logic. Moving forward without a gameplan.

However, I seriously doubt she planned to present a surprise baby to friends and family.

Assuming the new bf knew she was pregnant, it's logical to assume he didn't know how pregnant she was (as in, how far along). If she delivers and discards that baby, she can grossly hide behind the sad grief (that real women experience every day) for "having lost the baby". "Please don't talk about it. It's too painful." Like I said, gross. Gross if she killed her baby and then pretended to grieve a miscarriage. Killing and hiding that baby checked all her boxes.

And none of the baby's.

Signing up for fall classes tells me she never intended for that baby to live.

JMO
Not one person has come forward and said Laken admitted to being pregnant. Every comment I’ve seen people thought she was but didn’t confront her. Pictures taken in June at her summer job in a red & white dress she is obviously in the 3rd trimester with a protruding abdomen and a sway-back. If the boyfriend knew he didn’t share with even 1 person. Because we know how that goes, you tell one person, then they tell one person, pretty soon the whole town knows!

Hollywood style water breaking before contractions start is rare. Sure it could’ve happened but apparently it didn’t. We don’t know how long she was in her room having contractions before finally delivering around 4am. With all the possible complications Laken was very lucky to have been able to walk away after taking a little nap!

Has there been even 1 comment by anyone about Laken grieving or even a little sad? What I read was she thought she looked cute in the red dress she wore for her first court date! I’m thinking her attorney spoke with her about that as she wore a plain black dress & no comments, to her last hearing.

Laken thought she was getting away with this. She made it through a whole pregnancy (however long it was), without telling a soul. She read up on labor & delivery and survived without medical attention. Had she waited a few days post delivery to see a doctor she could’ve claimed she had a miscarriage ‘on the toilet’ & very likely would’ve gotten away with this from a medical standpoint.

Her only problem was the bag in her closet & her ‘nosey roommates’ - she couldn’t risk carrying that bag out in front of them. She had to wait for them to leave so she could walk out unseen & remove all the evidence of her problem forever.

Had her roommates not looked in her closet she planned to continue with her life. Finish her last year of college…Baby, what baby?

MOO
 
  • #345
All of the onus is being placed on this gal without answers to the outstanding questions: 1) what was the gestational age? 2) did Conner dump her over the Summer? He clearly was cupping her pregnant belly in the June 2025 photo shoot. Unless he is the stupidest male on the planet, he had to have known she was pregnant. 3) how come no one noticed she was pregnant? She lived in Tennessee at her parents’ house during the summer. 4) did she seek OBGYN care?
SOME of this is MOO or from reading Social Media.... so no facts
1. I believe its been posted Full term in these threads
2. The 'old' BF has been out of the picture since Feb/March'ish'
3. She had an ACL injury, that she could have used as an excuse for the weight gain earlier on.
4. Sounds like NO ONE would confront her and just let her have her way with what she said... thus the post I made about no one ever telling her 'no' as a child/currently...

I'd like to know why the old BF broke up with her, and i do believe she was going to try to convince new BF it was his.

Again.. MOOO so take it for what its worth :-)
 
  • #346
That wording is used in several of the posted articles. It was quoted by Laken to the health care providers at the hospital. Also noted in several articles Laken looked up and deleted information about pregnancy, hidden pregnancy, labor & birth. Also selfies taken while she was in labor were deleted. IMO she was preparing herself to answer questions. It was absolutely an odd thing to say about a baby who was at or near term and once born was no longer a fetus but a baby/infant/newborn.

I worked OB, Post Partum, Labor & Delivery for 5 years (a lifetime ago) and honestly never heard a pregnant or postpartum lady refer to her newborn baby as a fetus. Not saying it hasn’t happened, I just never heard it and if I did (in this context) it would’ve been one of those things that makes you go hmmm
My amateur speculation is that referring to the baby as a fetus is a form of disconnect. In this situation, it may have seemed easier for her to think of the baby as an object vs a living being.

25 years ago, I would have been heaping some serious judgement on this young woman, but with maturity and life experiences, I can't do that until the whole truth is revealed here. If it turns out that she knew she was pregnant and her intent was to end the child's life at birth, then I'll heap that judgement. But it sounds like perhaps there are other factors involved that influenced her choices.

My heart aches for the loss of the child, but I currently reserve some heartache space for her, too.
 
  • #347
I absolutely do not blame the roommates. My adult daughter is her age at a similar university. One of her roommates last year was very similar to what we know about LS up until this terrible day.

Student was conventionally attractive, popular Christian TikTok-er, etc. She was obviously pregnant, denied it at all times to every person who asked, new boyfriend seemed completely devoted to her and absolutely clueless, and she became increasingly toxic to her roommates until they all stopped talking to her and avoided her because she was such a mean girl.

Out of the blue, she dumped puppy dog boyfriend, married some guy from high school who was in the Army, and moved to Italy and magically had an 8 pound miracle preemie!

No, the timeline makes no sense because this woman believes her own fantasy story.
 
  • #348
I’ll bet you are correct. Personally, I can’t unsee her in the video where she is in the car talking to (AT!) the camera. Icky, IMO!
Which video is this?
 
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I was getting ready to post this. Thank you for posting it.

Heartbreaking.


Timestamp 2:07

let's start with defining some terms. So we always talk about we talk a lot about filicide.

Filicide is when a parent murders a child. So typically filicide could be any age,

right? It could be the ones we talk about are mostly children that are not babies, children that are over a

year old. And so we deal a lot with filicide.

So Lori Vallow would be an example of filicide.

And maybe I should maybe I should jump in

here just in case nobody knows you are a criminal psychologist. Oh, clinical psychologist, forensic

psychologist. Yeah. Um, beyond just being my co-host. So, okay, keep going on.

Filicide. Yes.

Yeah, that might be good to know. People may not know that. Um, so yeah, I have I

have a lot of experience talking about felons, criminals, violent criminals,

sexual offenders, all that. I've done groups, evaluations. I've served as an

expert many times in many different ways at the federal and state level. So

filicide is when a parent murders a child. Typically that would be defined

as anywhere between the ages of birth to 18 when they would be considered an

adult. Then there's something called infanticide. Infanticide is when a child

is murdered in the first year of life. And then there's something even more

specific, something that we haven't actually talked about until now.

So this will be our first time actually talking

about in depth about neonaticide. Neonaticide. So a neonate

is a baby in the first four weeks. So a neonate is a child that's been alive for

a month. So, but neonaticide is murder that occurs in the first 24


hours of birth. And one of the things about neonaticide is

that it's widely believed that neonaticide is tremendously

underestimated for many many reasons.

you know that obviously a child at birth is extremely vulnerable and extremely small and so

there's many cases. The most common cause of death in neonaticide is

suffocation, right? There's many ways probably to suffocate a baby that

wouldn't necessarily be considered neonaticide.

There's a high percentage of SIDS cases

that are determined to be neonaticide. So roughly 10% of SIDS cases, so sudden

infant SIDS is sudden infant death syndrome, but it's it's believed that

many more cases of SIDS are probably neonaticide.

So, wow. Because babies are so vulnerable

and it's it's fairly easy to if if a if a pregnancy is concealed

as as it was with Laken Snelling, if his pregnancy is concealed, sadly, it's it's fairly easy to dispose

of the remains if nobody knows about it, right? It's it's fairly easy to dispose

of the remains of a baby in the sense that their bones

are softer. They degrade faster, right? They're they're smaller, so there's less remains to deal with

they're less babies are less conspicuous. They're easier to hide. There's so many ways in which

neonaticide is probably much more common than we realize. um from not only the

the way that babies are potentially murdered, but um in terms of dealing

with the remains and how to dispose of them so that they're not detected. It's just it's frightening.




So neonaticide is a murder typically in the first 24 hours after birth
 

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