KY - Rowan County clerk Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt, 2015

[i.b.nora]

The meeting with 'the gay' was requested by the Pope himself.

(CNN) - The day before Pope Francis met anti-gay county clerk Kim Davis in Washington last week, he held a private meeting with a longtime friend from Argentina who has been in a same-sex relationship for 19 years.

Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man, brought his partner, Iwan, as well several other friends to the Vatican Embassy on September 23 for a brief visit with the Pope. A video of the meeting shows Grassi and Francis greeting each other with a warm hug.

In an exclusive interview with CNN, Grassi declined to disclose details about the short visit, but said it was arranged personally by the Pope via email in the weeks ahead of Francis' highly anticipated visit to the United States.

"Three weeks before the trip, he called me on the phone and said he would love to give me a hug," Grassi said.”​

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/pope-gay-washington/

 

[bluesneakers]

The meeting with 'the gay' was requested by the Pope himself.

(CNN) - The day before Pope Francis met anti-gay county clerk Kim Davis in Washington last week, he held a private meeting with a longtime friend from Argentina who has been in a same-sex relationship for 19 years.

Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man, brought his partner, Iwan, as well several other friends to the Vatican Embassy on September 23 for a brief visit with the Pope. A video of the meeting shows Grassi and Francis greeting each other with a warm hug.

In an exclusive interview with CNN, Grassi declined to disclose details about the short visit, but said it was arranged personally by the Pope via email in the weeks ahead of Francis' highly anticipated visit to the United States.

"Three weeks before the trip, he called me on the phone and said he would love to give me a hug," Grassi said.”​

Video:

[video]http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003952886/vatican-clarifies-position-on-kim-davis.html?playlistId=100000003887886[/video]

http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/...-on-kim-davis.html?playlistId=100000003887886

edit. argh, I don't know why it's not coming up with a video in the commnet, but the link leads to the video.

 

[zippitydoda]

KD and her ilk A/K/A supporters & attorneys are beyond the pale.

I never believed that she had a private meeting with our Holy Father, and that he told her personally to "Stay Strong".

To use the Holy Father and try to capitalize on his visit that promoted such good will, and to many provided a renewed vow of faith, to further there own bigoted agenda(s) is a sad, desperate thing. I am pleased to read that the Vatican did clarify that the only private meeting Holy Father had was with a former student, who happens to also be a gay man - who brought along his partner of 19 years.

Put that in your phony baloney pipe and smoke it KD!

 

[Frigga]

KD and her ilk A/K/A supporters & attorney's are beyond the pale.

I never believed that she had a private meeting with our Holy Father, and that he told her personally to "Stay Strong".

To use the Holy Father and try to capitalize on his visit that promoted such good will, and to many provided a renewed vow of faith, to further there own bigoted agenda(s) is a sad, desperate thing. I am pleased to read that the Vatican did clarify that the only private meeting Holy Father had was with a former student, who happens to also be a gay man - who brought along his partner of 19 years.

Put that in your phony baloney pious pipe and smoke it KD!

As a youngster I really disliked all the 'hellfire and brimstone' ideas being promoted by certain churches and was bothered by some of the "God will smite thee" passages of the old testament but I gotta admit now I kind of wish there would be some smiting or smoting of Kim Davis and her lying liar attorney's. Just had to get that off my chest. Lord forgive me. ;0

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Exactly.

I don't remember stories of Jesus turning anyone away, although I know plenty of big time Christian religious leaders and members will refuse to talk to people they believe are icky.

Well then they are not being very Christlike are they? Being a Christian doesn't make you perfect. It makes you saved by grace. But what many many forget is that Jesus ate with the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the people no one wanted. He loved them all and gave of himself. He did not ignore their sin but he forgave it. He did not point fingers at sinners but he did explain the way to salvation.
It is one thing to believe something in your faith. It is another thing entirely to be ugly to people that don't believe the same way you do.

 

[zippitydoda]

KD and her "team" have created a PR mess, and I wonder who's head(s) is going to roll, or already has, at the Vatican's DC Diplomatic Embassy.

It wasn't enough for her to simply enjoy this special opportunity to be part of a larger group being welcomed by the Holy Father. Nope, she had twist it.

Hi Frigga - old way = smiting / new way = internet

 

[Frigga]

Hahahaha! So true zippity! Hi ya!

 

[IzzyBlanche]

:lol:

One Vatican official said there was "a sense of regret" that the pope had ever seen Kim Davis, a Kentucky county clerk who went to jail in September for refusing to honor a U.S. Supreme Court ruling and issue same-sex marriage licenses.

[snip]

Rosica said he did not believe the pope was even indirectly involved in inviting Davis, adding that the greeting was very brief and that she and her husband were among the many guests at the Washington embassy before the pope left for New York.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...UN20151002?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

 

[Steft50]

The bottom half of this article is stuff I've not read before. Pretty interesting.

"The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Jesuit magazine America, had cautioned in an article this week that the pope meets many well-wishers on his trips, and that news of the meeting with Ms. Davis had been manipulated."

"Archbishop Viganò is turning 75 in January, the age at which bishops must submit a formal request to the Vatican asking for permission to resign. These requests are not automatically accepted, and bishops often stay in their appointments well past age 75. But if Archbishop Viganò is held responsible for what is seen as a grave misstep on an important papal trip, he is likely to be removed at the first respectable opportunity, according to several church analysts."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/europe/pope-francis-kim-davis-meeting.html?_r=1

 

[Only4Justice]

I'm glad we finally have the truth about Kim Davis' alleged audience with Pope Francis. Liar, liar, (polyester) pants on fire

Me too, BDE. I could read that you were distressed over it. I never believed it for a minute. Christian? I think not Ms Davis.

As a fellow Detroit native, I read your posts frequently.

Peace.


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[silversurvivor]

It is one thing to believe something in your faith. It is another thing entirely to be ugly to people that don't believe the same way you do.

Respectfully snipped by me.

I simply wish more people felt this way in the world. I couldn't have said it better. Thank you.


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[RR0004]

I'm not sure what's what. Did she get a special invitation to meet with the Pope? Did he give her rosary beads and thank her for her "courage"? My goodness- all the different explanations/observations/CYA statements...I have no idea.

 

[bluesneakers]

I'm not sure what's what. Did she get a special invitation to meet with the Pope? Did he give her rosary beads and thank her for her "courage"? My goodness- all the different explanations/observations/CYA statements...I have no idea.

The best advice I can give you is to not believe anything that comes from her or her camp.

About this or anything else.

 

[Hope4More]

I have no doubt the Pope is telling the truth. KD took a casual brief encounter and twisted it into support for her position. I really hate that she used the Pope in this manner.
:gaah:

Kim Davis isn't responsible for being received by the Pope. Liberty Counsel is, in the person of Shaver.

The upside is that Shaver has been exposed internationally as a liar, repeatedly, in the past few weeks. Hopefully that exposure weakens his ability to do harm here in the US.

As for the Pope. Climate change is the most important issue in the world, IMO, and the Pope's call to the world to address it as a moral issue couldn't be more important or necessary.

Which is all the more reason as far as I'm concerned that the Pope stay all the way away from interjecting himself in any way for any reason into highly divisive domestic political issues, including litagious anti-contraceptive nuns, and audiences with folks like Davis, even in a crowd (it was a preselected crowd, and those in it were invited for a reason).

 

[Hope4More]

I'm not sure what's what. Did she get a special invitation to meet with the Pope? Did he give her rosary beads and thank her for her "courage"? My goodness- all the different explanations/observations/CYA statements...I have no idea.

Looks like Shaver wrangled her an invitation to meet with the Pope, along with others, my guess as a group of folks known to have religious objections to whatever. Nothing special about rosaries being given out...apparently that's a routine gesture by the Pope.

The " stay strong" may well have come from the Pope, but I don't believe it was intended as a personal validation of Davis or her illegal activities.

I have zero sympathy for Davis, but it is also the case that she is being used, relentlessly, by fruitcake Shaver, to further his own goals and ambitions.

 

[RR0004]

Looks like Shaver wrangled her an invitation to meet with the Pope, along with others, my guess as a group of folks known to have religious objections to whatever. Nothing special about rosaries being given out...apparently that's a routine gesture by the Pope.

The " stay strong" may well have come from the Pope, but I don't believe it was intended as a personal validation of Davis or her illegal activities.

I have zero sympathy for Davis, but it is also the case that she is being used, relentlessly, by fruitcake Shaver, to further his own goals and ambitions.

Definitely doesn't prevent her from spreading utter bs.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-kim-davis-recounts-secret-meeting-pope-francis/story?id=34143874

 

[bluesneakers]

Definitely doesn't prevent her from spreading utter bs.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-kim-davis-recounts-secret-meeting-pope-francis/story?id=34143874

Is she going to convert to Catholicism now?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Definitely doesn't prevent her from spreading utter bs.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-kim-davis-recounts-secret-meeting-pope-francis/story?id=34143874

Thanks for reposting this. A "private meeting," eh?

Too bad Kim's conscience is so sensitive about gay marriage but when it comes to that bearing false witness thing, eh, not so much.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

And what delicious irony that the only "private" meeting the Pope had was with a gay couple, not Kim.

Can't wait to see how the Liberty Counsel tries to spin that little factoid.

 

[K_Z]

And what delicious irony that the only "private" meeting the Pope had was with a gay couple, not Kim.

Can't wait to see how the Liberty Counsel tries to spin that little factoid.

BBM.

Maybe Liberty Counsel will say the Pope was having a private moment with his old friend to advise the couple that Rowan County, Kentucky, would not be a good choice for their wedding? :thinking: