Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

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  • #141
Glad to hear others are more concerned. :)

We've probably all made choices we wish we hadn't, myself included as a sorority member especially.:oops:

:D

Yes, we probably all have but we're not all admitting that little fact. Instead, many are placing judgement but as the saying goes, those in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
 
  • #142
Exactly. I’ve said since the beginning, this case isn’t “important”, in Lexington. I’m a local & discussed SS in the downtown area, the comments (after finding someone that even heard of her) I heard had nothing to do with concern. Now, had she went missing from the grocery at noon, it’d be entirely different. Imo
I can believe that. I have seen horrific cases in our area that go unnoticed.
 
  • #143
Has it been mentioned if the 3 guys were friends or even knew each other before that night.

LE has said that the three guys do know each other. They haven't said much more than that though from what I've read.
 
  • #144
Glad to hear others are more concerned. :)

We've probably all made choices we wish we hadn't, myself included as a sorority member especially.:oops:

Smart thinking on your part with a bottle trick! :D

Thanks, sorority here too. Finally just took myself out of the bar scene. I was too naive and trusting when I drank, but eventually got smart enough to recognize I didn't have good judgement:oops:

I miss those carefree days,,,, but am very understanding of young women out with their friends, just wish they didn't have to learn the hard way there's evil people out there. :(
 
  • #145
With all different looks SS has in her pics I think this one has a little of each.From
Cajun Coast Search & Rescue Team
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  • #146
Yes, we probably all have but we're not all admitting that little fact. Instead, many are placing judgement but as the saying goes, those in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

So true. None of us are immune to being a victim, nor are we immune to a family member committing a crime. No one can predict who will do what, when.
Lexington is a wealthy area, businesses, thoroughbred farms & civic groups usually step up to offer help. Not much in the way of assistance offered. But, if a crime did occur, we don’t know where it took place, plus S is not a local to Lexington. It’s realyy disturbing (to me) to hear inconsiderate, unkind comments. Moo
 
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The gross comments on social media don't bother me. It's what I expect.
 
  • #149
Maybe we can take that no good MMA fighter and put him in a room with the three fellas, one at a time. ;) Just put the investigator sitting in the corner. Of course, Mr. MMA would have to give a (4 letter f word) about women to help get the truth from these three. :mad:

Nevermind. :rolleyes: Haha
 
  • #150
Exactly. I’ve said since the beginning, this case isn’t “important”, in Lexington. I’m a local & discussed SS in the downtown area, the comments (after finding someone that even heard of her) I heard had nothing to do with concern. Now, had she went missing from the grocery at noon, it’d be entirely different. Imo
Sorry for responding twice but I was just remembering what a friend who is a local news person once told me. It is an accomplishment when major a network picks up a story from local media. Seems a bit backward here. FOX news gave the last update and I haven't seen one local outlet report anything today.
 
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You don't need a body to prosecute someone for murder. I have not heard that the 3 men have lawyered up. Maybe they have. I would think by now LE would have the evidence to charge if it existed.
 
  • #153
Why would LE want the public to know one man said SS left the house in the morning?
 
  • #154
Sorry for responding twice but I was just remembering what a friend who is a local news person once told me. It is an accomplishment when major a network picks up a story from local media. Seems a bit backward here. FOX news gave the last update and I haven't seen one local outlet report anything today.

Wow. Perhaps residents should call/write their complaints in to the local news media. Imagine if next time it is someone close to you. The last thing family should have to do when looking for a MP is sit around calling the media. It's just too easy nowadays for them to get the information within seconds, actually. Sorry, just saying I think we might should hold media accountable. They're quick to remind us that :eek: "OMG, she's a mother of 4 with brand new twins!" Make them do their darned jobs for the money.
 
  • #155
I agree with the alcohol hitting hard. As far as the warrant the home owners would have had to sign a consent if they would have allowed search without a warrant. It would be similar to being pulled over in a car and consenting to a search. It would hold up in court. But my point was that LE had some type of probable cause to be granted the warrant.
Could the guys admitting she was last there and drove in the car be enough for probable cause?
 
  • #156
I would think by now LE would have the evidence to charge if it existed.

Maybe they do have "some" evidence, barely enough, but they're hoping for the motherload...a trip to the body or murder scene by the killer(s), especially if they have barely enough evidence of her murder, but no body.
 
  • #157
LE has had several weeks to play these 3 guys against each other. I don't think LE has anything.
 
  • #158
I am sure it has been covered but....
Considering the drug problem in this country, what if she overdosed and the guys freaked out, disposed of her body and now are all afraid to speak up? In other words, maybe the three of them didn’t kill her but are guilty of a cover up. In any case, there are three of them and one of them will crack in time. I think. I hope.
It makes me very sad that a person goes missing and no one comes forward to say what happened. I agree with her mom of course, someone knows.
 
  • #159
I agree she left willingly. I don't know why some have trouble with that. She stayed at the bar until closing even though her friend left earlier. She left with three men she didn't know. She made the decision to spend the night with them when she told her mom she would be home in the morning. Those were her decisions. We might not like them but it was her right to make them.
I agree. And I don’t think she was drugged. I think young kids take drugs thinking nothing will happen to THEM. And then it does. I feel she likely overdosed. I am not certain I believe this was a murder but maybe a cover up of a night of partying that went wrong. However, the cover up was awful and there should be a confession.
 
  • #160
Could the guys admitting she was last there and drove in the car be enough for probable cause?
That alone would not normally be enough but probable cause is subjective. Hopefully this helps to explain it.
"Establishing Probable Cause
The Fourth Amendment doesn’t define “probable cause.” It’s clear though that an affidavit a police officer submits to a judge when applying for a warrant has to identify objectively suspicious activities. It can’t simply recite the officer’s subjective beliefs. An affidavit has to establish more than a bare suspicion that criminal activity is afoot, but it doesn’t have to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

In general, when deciding whether to issue a search warrant, a judge or magistrate may well consider information in an affidavit reliable if it comes from any of these sources:
  • a confidential police informant whose past reliability has been established or who has firsthand knowledge of illegal goings-on
  • an informant who implicates himself or herself as well as the suspect
  • an informant whose information appears to be correct after at least partial verification by the police
  • a victim of a crime related to the search
  • a witness to the crime related to the search, or
  • another police officer.
Example: Hoping to obtain a warrant to search Olive Martini’s backyard, a police officer submits an affidavit to a magistrate. The affidavit states that “the undersigned is informed that Olive operates an illegal still in her backyard.” The magistrate should not issue a search warrant based on this affidavit. Because the affidavit is too vague and the source of the information is unstated, there’s no way for the magistrate to evaluate its reliability. The affidavit doesn’t establish probable cause.
Example: Same case. The affidavit states, “I am a social acquaintance of Olive Martini. On three occasions in the past two weeks, I have attended parties at Martini’s house. On each occasion, I have personally observed Martini serving alcohol from a still in Martini’s backyard. I have personally tasted the drink and know it to be alcoholic. I had no connection to the police when I attended these parties.” This affidavit is reliable enough to establish probable cause for issuance of a warrant authorizing the police to search Martini’s backyard. The affidavit provides detailed, firsthand information from an ordinary witness (without police connections) that indicates criminal activity is taking place."
Search Warrants and Probable Cause
 
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