Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

[BlinkOfAnI]

Right, she wouldn't have any idea who they even are or if any of them have a criminal record a mile long.

I think being intoxicated impaired her judgement. They may have even spiked her drink without her knowing.

I know some believe she ODd, but I see nothing pointing to that happening and I dont think that is the police theory either. Jmo

I think far worse things have happened to her, and she's no longer living.

Imo if located the reason why she died won't been rim an accidental OD.

That is why she was removed from the home hoping no one ever knows how she died.

Jmoo though

And if names, addresses & research are correct there is at least one with a criminal history and currently under supervision JMHO.

 

[bwt42]

Its very possible that all three men were not present when something happened to her or when she left.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Also in this article it says she was with two men in the backseat and the third man was following in another car. I'm thinking this was just a flawed report by media. Who would be driving the car she was in if it was a total of three men, two in backseat with her and one following in another car?

It's possible there were 4 involved but we have only heard of 3. I find it odd that the mother originally stated there was a man and woman in the backseat and then changed it. 1st instinct may have been correct but got hushed?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I read rain can freshen up the scent so maybe good.

Yes it's a great thing for scent dogs when its raining.

It holds the person's scent much closer to the ground.

Imo

 

[BaileyC]

We're all just speculating right now. We do know who she left with and I've been shown court dates and charges on one of the men. Told two of them have a criminal past. Because of their criminal past could make them really jumpy for getting other charges for just about anything.

I too feel it's more likely these men did something to her that would be a felony charge and very serious but could be not that serious of a crime like she had sex and died from a hemorrhage or an OD and they hid the body. I figure they're worried about their criminal past When you have a criminal past they tend to go harder on you when you get more charges.

Lots of possibilities.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It's possible there were 4 involved but we have only heard of 3. I find it odd that the mother originally stated there was a man and woman in the backseat and then changed it. 1st instinct may have been correct but got hushed?

The other one may have had longer hair or a high pitched voice.

 

[MizStery]

Previous news reports state SS drove from her home to her friends home and they took another car to the bar after picking up a male friend.

This is what I think I read. SS left her car at female friends home.What’s ’not clear’ is which of SS friends drove and whose car was used to get to the bar?

Depending on who had the argument with whom; Did the female and male friend after the argument leave together?Was SS abandoned at the bar with no transportation back home?

I would appreciate clarification.

Thanks. This post is just my opinion.

 

[JenniferTx]

Right, she wouldn't have any idea who they even are or if any of them have a criminal record a mile long.

I think being intoxicated impaired her judgement. They may have even spiked her drink without her knowing.

I know some believe she ODd, but I see nothing pointing to that happening and I dont think that is the police theory either. Jmo

I think far worse things have happened to her, and she's no longer living.

Imo if located the reason why she died won't been from an accidental OD.

That is why she was removed from the home hoping no one ever knows how she died, nor knowing who all was involved in killing her while hiding other possible violent acts they did against her.

Jmoo though

I completely agree with you. They must have done something really really really bad to her.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

This is what I think I read. SS left her car at fa emale friends home.What’s ’not clear’ is which of SS friends drove and whose car was used to get to the bar?

Depending on who had the argument with whom; Did the female and male friend after the argument leave together?Was SS abandoned at the bar with no transportation back home?

I would appreciate clarification.

Thanks. This post is just my opinion.

Continuing on from your questions, if she had no money or cards on her, how was she expected to get back to her car? The only thing I could think of is that she had a Lyft or Uber account. Moo

 

[SAMS]

I'm not sure if it is the 2 friends who got into an argument or SS & a friend.

Feb 4th report

["The two friends went to Lexington around 10 p.m. While at the bar, Savannah Spurlock’s friend left because the two got into an argument, Savannah’s mother said.]
Not BBM

 

[BaileyC]

This is what I think I read. SS left her car at female friends home.What’s ’not clear’ is which of SS friends drove and whose car was used to get to the bar?

Depending on who had the argument with whom; Did the female and male friend after the argument leave together?Was SS abandoned at the bar with no transportation back home?

I would appreciate clarification.

Thanks. This post is just my opinion.

I've read on FB the two friends left because they didn't care for the people she was talking with. I figure this meant the men she left with. No way to know if this is true. I'm thinking it went down like what you said you think happened. She left her car at the male friends house and they went to the bar in his car. they left and Savannah stayed with no ride. I figure the guys she was with told her they would give her a ride but no way to know.

I also think authorities have told the two friends to not talk. Or Attorneys have.

 

[BaileyC]

Feb 4th report

["The two friends went to Lexington around 10 p.m. While at the bar, Savannah Spurlock’s friend left because the two got into an argument, Savannah’s mother said.]
Not BBM

Wonder how her Mom knew that? What all did Savannah tell her in the Facetime that we don't know?

Just thought, possibly the friends filled her in on what happened.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I completely agree with you. They must have done something really really really bad to her.

I was just thinking about other cases where a woman went to a bar then left with someone they had just met, and then went missing, and later found murdered. I think this is going to be similar to Savannah's case.

Strangely many of them involved them having a close friend with them, but they either got into an agreement with one leaving or simply the other friend was tired, and wanted to leave, and the other one stayed behind to leave with someone she had just met at the bar that night.

So Savannah isn't certainly the only one who has done this same thing, and paid the ultimate deadly price for it.

It's strange that many of these same kind of cases have some of the same similarities.

Imo

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I've read on FB the two friends left because they didn't care for the people she was talking with. I figure this meant the men she left with. No way to know if this is true. I'm thinking it went down like what you said you think happened. She left her car at the male friends house and they went to the bar in his car. they left and Savannah stayed with no ride. I figure the guys she was with told her they would give her a ride but no way to know.

I also think authorities have told the two friends to not talk. Or Attorneys have.

It wouldn't be uncommon for LE to ask people not to talk to protect the investigation. IIRC I thought she left her mothers car at her girlfriends house. I think it is very possible (as you stated) Savannah needed after her friends left. She either went willingly to the "after party', felt she had no choice but to go along with it in order to get a ride, or truly wanted to go. Hanging upon her mother & possibly anger may have bolstered he decision to show independence. Total speculation of course. I think it would be very difficult for 3 men to be involved and one not cave by now so it is possible1or 2 left and she was alone with one. But who knows at this point.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

We're all just speculating right now. We do know who she left with and I've been shown court dates and charges on one of the men. Told two of them have a criminal past. Because of their criminal past could make them really jumpy for getting other charges for just about anything.

I too feel it's more likely these men did something to her that would be a felony charge and very serious but could be not that serious of a crime like she had sex and died from a hemorrhage or an OD and they hid the body. I figure they're worried about their criminal past When you have a criminal past they tend to go harder on you when you get more charges.

Lots of possibilities.

Not to mention if they are currently under supervision for a previous crime. Probation could be revoked and original jail sentence reinstated.

 

[interestedincases]

It wouldn't be uncommon for LE to ask people not to talk to protect the investigation. IIRC I thought she left her mothers car at her girlfriends house. I think it is very possible (as you stated) Savannah needed after her friends left. She either went willingly to the "after party', felt she had no choice but to go along with it in order to get a ride, or truly wanted to go. Hanging upon her mother & possibly anger may have bolstered he decision to show independence. Total speculation of course. I think it would be very difficult for 3 men to be involved and one not cave by now so it is possible1or 2 left and she was alone with one. But who knows at this point.

I have two thoughts, either agree with your thinking that she was left alone with only one person, or, she called someone to come pick her up and truly did leave. That the men haven't caved yet, that no trace of SS has been found with the ground searches. It leaves me puzzled thinking someone possibly could have picked her up.

That her phone didn't turn off until 8:30-ish.......strange to me. If it was someone in the car with her, surely they knew of the FaceTime call she had with her mom? They knew she said she would be home in the morning. If they have to get rid of her, they would know to get rid of her phone too. Unless she dropped it in their house and they didn't know it was there until later when they went to clean up. But again, wouldn't they have pings/reports on her phone by now to show where at least the phone was, even if the phone was destroyed?

And I still don't get FaceTime. I'm curious to know if he mom called her or FaceTimed her first? Did her mom call and SS FaceTimed back? I have kids, a little younger than SS, but FT isn't even an option in their minds. It's text, text, text. Especially if they were older and out at 3AM with strange men. I don't get why SS didn't just TEXT her mom back. Less questions, less seeing if SS was intoxicated or not, less having to argue with her mom. Why did she FaceTime? That's a big question to me. I feel she left the bar on her own, but I'm wondering if once in the car and they started telling her mom to "chill", did she realize it wasn't a smart decision and was looking for her mom to "lay down the law" and say she would come and pick her up?

Driver, SS in front and two people in back. Am I wrong that I thought I read they dropped one of those men off at another car then he followed them. When they dropped him off, I'm thinking SS jumped in back and that's why one of the stories says both, front seat and back seat?

 

[rsd1200]

Probably hoping someone will call in a tip that says they know it isn't true.

LE specifically put out that particular part of what they were told for a reason while not releasing all.

So since she supposedly left alive someone most likely would have seen her afterwards at some point IF true which I don't believe the investigators believe for one second.

Imo

Her phone was off at 8:30 a.m. If she'd called someone to come get her, and THEY did something to her, say in a fit of rage (ex maybe?), it would have been in broad daylight at that point in time, on a road that has multiple houses on the way back to towards town. That doesn't make sense.

If she took off walking and froze to death, the dogs would have scented her, in that area. The guy from the team, said, that he could at least rule places out that she was not, now.

I wonder if "white car guy's" parents were home that night. I've heard some things, but feel his parents would not have been home, if those things were going on there, in the past (but who knows).

I think, if nothing else, that phone pinged in off one of those towers, or they'd not be there.

 

[BaileyC]

I have two thoughts, either agree with your thinking that she was left alone with only one person, or, she called someone to come pick her up and truly did leave. That the men haven't caved yet, that no trace of SS has been found with the ground searches. It leaves me puzzled thinking someone possibly could have picked her up.

That her phone didn't turn off until 8:30-ish.......strange to me. If it was someone in the car with her, surely they knew of the FaceTime call she had with her mom? They knew she said she would be home in the morning. If they have to get rid of her, they would know to get rid of her phone too. Unless she dropped it in their house and they didn't know it was there until later when they went to clean up. But again, wouldn't they have pings/reports on her phone by now to show where at least the phone was, even if the phone was destroyed?

And I still don't get FaceTime. I'm curious to know if he mom called her or FaceTimed her first? Did her mom call and SS FaceTimed back? I have kids, a little younger than SS, but FT isn't even an option in their minds. It's text, text, text. Especially if they were older and out at 3AM with strange men. I don't get why SS didn't just TEXT her mom back. Less questions, less seeing if SS was intoxicated or not, less having to argue with her mom. Why did she FaceTime? That's a big question to me. I feel she left the bar on her own, but I'm wondering if once in the car and they started telling her mom to "chill", did she realize it wasn't a smart decision and was looking for her mom to "lay down the law" and say she would come and pick her up?

Driver, SS in front and two people in back. Am I wrong that I thought I read they dropped one of those men off at another car then he followed them. When they dropped him off, I'm thinking SS jumped in back and that's why one of the stories says both, front seat and back seat?

I posted about Savannah's Mom having a serious head injury. If it's true may have something to do with how she contacted her Mom.
My understanding is Mom called first but not sure. Didn't it say Savannah got mad at Mom and hung up but then called back?

My understanding is her car was left in Lexington at the male friends house and figured the girlfriend lives in Richmond.

I haven't read they dropped one of the guys off, just that three men involved and two in the back with one in front with Savannah when she talked with her Mom.

Not sure when the third guy was following. Her Mom said maybe one person in backseat. So possibly the guy was following when they talked.

Savannah looks very comfortable in the picture with the man she's walking with, almost to comfortable for just being around him for four hours. I sure thought she must have known him. Wrapping her arm through his and walking the way she is would be unusual to me with a man I just meant. Even intoxicated.

i agree the phone shutting down at 8:30 a.m. is odd. Fits into she became sick at the house and they found her when they all woke up.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I have two thoughts, either agree with your thinking that she was left alone with only one person, or, she called someone to come pick her up and truly did leave. That the men haven't caved yet, that no trace of SS has been found with the ground searches. It leaves me puzzled thinking someone possibly could have picked her up.

That her phone didn't turn off until 8:30-ish.......strange to me. If it was someone in the car with her, surely they knew of the FaceTime call she had with her mom? They knew she said she would be home in the morning. If they have to get rid of her, they would know to get rid of her phone too. Unless she dropped it in their house and they didn't know it was there until later when they went to clean up. But again, wouldn't they have pings/reports on her phone by now to show where at least the phone was, even if the phone was destroyed?

And I still don't get FaceTime. I'm curious to know if he mom called her or FaceTimed her first? Did her mom call and SS FaceTimed back? I have kids, a little younger than SS, but FT isn't even an option in their minds. It's text, text, text. Especially if they were older and out at 3AM with strange men. I don't get why SS didn't just TEXT her mom back. Less questions, less seeing if SS was intoxicated or not, less having to argue with her mom. Why did she FaceTime? That's a big question to me. I feel she left the bar on her own, but I'm wondering if once in the car and they started telling her mom to "chill", did she realize it wasn't a smart decision and was looking for her mom to "lay down the law" and say she would come and pick her up?

Driver, SS in front and two people in back. Am I wrong that I thought I read they dropped one of those men off at another car then he followed them. When they dropped him off, I'm thinking SS jumped in back and that's why one of the stories says both, front seat and back seat?

So many things are possible and we can only guess based on the info LE gives. I haven't given much thought to the possibility she did leave and someone picked her up. Would love to hear opinions on that line of thinking. Did she call someone (it would have had to be before phone died) and if so would it be a friend, an ex, who? Was it a stranger on the road who picked her up and it was bad timing someone nefarious happened to be the one? Did she set off on foot and succumb? Searches have not found her in the area.
The article states that the mother called SS 1st. SS hung up on her and called back using FaceTime. That does seem odd and I would love to know from mom if that was the norm. Another thought since SS hung up on her Mom....was she angry at the mom and knew seeing everyone in the car would upset her? Or did she not hang up of her own accord and still having the phone used Facetime. It seems so disrespectful they were telling the Mom to chill. They were strangers and had never met SS's Mom.

As far as another car I think I read the driver of the truck followed. I don't recall reading anyone was dropped off but would love to see a link if that's true. There were so many media stories at the beginning I know I didn't see them all.

 

[happyday]

[“There were at least two people in the back seat talking,” Ellen said. “…I heard one of them tell me to ‘chill.’ They were also hollering other things but I couldn’t make it out. I was just checking on my daughter.”]

SS was in the front seat during FaceTime call per mother. Police stated yesterday she was in the back seat. This gives me pause. Did things begin to get out of control?

[Ellen told Fox News that she does believe her daughter left the rural home on her own as she had no car, money, phone or coat.]
Police reveal missing Kentucky mom Savannah Spurlock was taken to rural home by three men

I’m confused why her mom said she had no phone?