Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

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  • #241
Her phone was off at 8:30 a.m. If she'd called someone to come get her, and THEY did something to her, say in a fit of rage (ex maybe?), it would have been in broad daylight at that point in time, on a road that has multiple houses on the way back to towards town. That doesn't make sense.

If she took off walking and froze to death, the dogs would have scented her, in that area. The guy from the team, said, that he could at least rule places out that she was not, now.

I wonder if "white car guy's" parents were home that night. I've heard some things, but feel his parents would not have been home, if those things were going on there, in the past (but who knows).

I think, if nothing else, that phone pinged in off one of those towers, or they'd not be there.
ITA Also if she called someone to get her they would know that by now and exactly who it was from phone records. So I don’t think it’s possible she called anyone. MOO
 
  • #242
I too think it's strange Savannah would drive and drink or do drugs after receiving a DUI. Also strange her Mother would let her take her car when she was going to a bar to drink. I've thought possibly she told her mother she wasn't going to drink etc and just going out to socialize. Also having sex so soon after giving birth would be something she may not do too. I've read a lot of putting this woman down in FB groups and on her FB pg.

My first thought is the men did something to her but also she could have gotten intoxicated, upset and left their home on foot. Possibly got lost or hurt and it was cold enough out if she was in water she most likely would die.

Something pointed out by another person in another group is the African American male is in both pictures. He's using the phone in one and walking with Savannah in another. I thought possibly calling another female to be with them partying or a call for drugs.

Just so much speculating and not enough facts. Hoping we get more facts and of course hoping she is found safe but it's not looking good.
Yes, her mother said Savannah hadn't been out in months, yet she got a DUI on 12/21/2018
 
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  • #243
I’m confused why her mom said she had no phone?

I’m assuming because her mom said it was dead when she attempted to call her that morning.
 
  • #244
Yes, her mother said Savannah hadn't been out in months, yet got a DUI on 12/21/2018

Her poor Mom probably is unable to get everything she says factual at this time.

I read today the Mom said Savannah told her she was going out for a little bit and did not say to a bar. That would explain why the Mom let her have the car.

A lot does not add up and thinking the Mom maybe confused or just not being honest. Shes' in a bad position right now. People are judging her, her daughter etc.
 
  • #245
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Wow. That’s a truly unreal statement from Mom.

SS looks like she was out for a night of drinking and dancing.

Her mother’s statement is without alarm about the conversation and suggests to me SS was not roofied, and that it was a normal behavior for her to go off with unknown men for all night....

I have to think drugs are involved and I’d wonder about an accidental drug overdose: Cocaine w Fentanyl, for example. Being up for a party would suggest going home with guys to party on Coke, not Heroin.

MD’s give consent for resumption of vaginal sex 6 weeks post-partum so I don’t think vaginal hemorrhage is a very likely scenario.

I think it’s a drug overdose.

I hope she is found and her family has closure.
 
  • #246
Doesn't ring true. She communicated with her around 3 a.m. Phone could have been working any time between 3 a.m. and 8:30 a.m.
 
  • #247
I posted about Savannah's Mom having a serious head injury. If it's true may have something to do with how she contacted her Mom.
My understanding is Mom called first but not sure. Didn't it say Savannah got mad at Mom and hung up but then called back?

My understanding is her car was left in Lexington at the male friends house and figured the girlfriend lives in Richmond.

I haven't read they dropped one of the guys off, just that three men involved and two in the back with one in front with Savannah when she talked with her Mom.

Not sure when the third guy was following. Her Mom said maybe one person in backseat. So possibly the guy was following when they talked.

Savannah looks very comfortable in the picture with the man she's walking with, almost to comfortable for just being around him for four hours. I sure thought she must have known him. Wrapping her arm through his and walking the way she is would be unusual to me with a man I just meant. Even intoxicated.

i agree the phone shutting down at 8:30 a.m. is odd. Fits into she became sick at the house and they found her when they all woke up.
You keep talking about a head injury SS's mom sustained. May I ask where you heard this information?
 
  • #248
I was just thinking about other cases where a woman went to a bar then left with someone they had just met, and then went missing, and later found murdered. I think this is going to be similar to Savannah's case.

Strangely many of them involved them having a close friend with them, but they either got into an agreement with one leaving or simply the other friend was tired, and wanted to leave, and the other one stayed behind to leave with someone she had just met at the bar that night.

So Savannah isn't certainly the only one who has done this same thing, and paid the ultimate deadly price for it.

It's strange that many of these same kind of cases have some of the same similarities.

Imo

I suspect that the argument with the friend may have gone like this:
Friend: “Let’s go home now.”
Savannah: “No. I want to stay with these guys.” (Points to some men that she’s just met.)
Friend: “ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!”

This is entirely speculation on my part.
 
  • #249
Wow. That’s a truly unreal statement from Mom.

SS looks like she was out for a night of drinking and dancing.

Her mother’s statement is without alarm about the conversation and suggests to me SS was not roofied, and that it was a normal behavior for her to go off with unknown men for all night....

I have to think drugs are involved and I’d wonder about an accidental drug overdose: Cocaine w Fentanyl, for example. Being up for a party would suggest going home with guys to party on Coke, not Heroin.

MD’s give consent for resumption of vaginal sex 6 weeks post-partum so I don’t think vaginal hemorrhage is a very likely scenario.

I think it’s a drug overdose.

I hope she is found and her family has closure.

She was just at 6 weeks so could have had complications, we don't know how her delivery of twins went or what the Dr. told her.

Could be an OD but I'm more inclined to think she was raped and died some way by resisting. I'm open to other reasons. Waiting on some more facts.
 
  • #250
Her phone was off at 8:30 a.m. If she'd called someone to come get her, and THEY did something to her, say in a fit of rage (ex maybe?), it would have been in broad daylight at that point in time, on a road that has multiple houses on the way back to towards town. That doesn't make sense.

If she took off walking and froze to death, the dogs would have scented her, in that area. The guy from the team, said, that he could at least rule places out that she was not, now.

I wonder if "white car guy's" parents were home that night. I've heard some things, but feel his parents would not have been home, if those things were going on there, in the past (but who knows).

I think, if nothing else, that phone pinged in off one of those towers, or they'd not be there.

I am one who is open to the idea of her possibly leaving the house under her own free will, but I was thinking maybe an Uber or Lyft account vs calling a friend. The 8:30am phone turn off is what opened this possibility for me. Though I will say it seems much more likely the men are somehow involved. MOO
 
  • #251
Is her mother with a head injury the person with custody of Savannah's children?
 
  • #252
I suspect that the argument with the friend may have gone like this:
Friend: “Let’s go home now.”
Savannah: “No. I want to stay with these guys.” (Points to some men that she’s just met.)
Friend: “ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!”

This is entirely speculation on my part.

How about they asked Savannah to go party or asked Savannah and friends. Friends said no but Savannah says yes and they offered ride home. She obviously liked the man she is pictured with most likely wanted to get to know him better.
 
  • #253
Is her mother with a head injury the person with custody of Savannah's children?
My understanding is the Father of the twins and 2 yr old is taking care of those three and the 4 yr old is with a parent of the father of the 4 yr old. I've read who has him but can't recall right now. I think it is a parent of the Father.

Savannah lives with her Mom.

I read the Mother has a head injury, it's not confirmed.
 
  • #254
My understanding is the Father of the twins and 2 yr old is taking care of those three and the 4 yr old is with a parent of the father of the 4 yr old. I've read who has him but can't recall right now. I think it is a parent of the Father.

Savannah lives with her Mom.
I concur. I read the children are with their fathers
 
  • #255
The media attention is partly driven by public attention. It's always hard to keep media attention going when little is coming out but it can change by people showing they are interested and want more coverage. I mentioned a friend that is a local investigative news reporter. She confirmed that it's public interest that drives the news and the more news the more pressure on LE and those involved. It's a shame people aren't sending tweets or messages to the new stations. This girl is 22 and has a future that could put those that judge her to shame. You would especially think if people thought there was a serial killer involved they would be speaking out. Sorry. Just frustrated (which I don't). JMO

I think, too, it's b/c so much time passed between when she went missing, and when they actually identified who she left with, (I think it was around the 9th that the LEO stopped the truck), and after that amount of time, folks did think that this would be a recovery mission. Locals searched around their outbuildings and such, but in that area, it is fairly rugged, so an intoxicated, barefoot girl (or one trying to walk in spike heels), would not have made it too far off the road, in temps in mid 30s, in addition, five days had passed.

If her phone was still on at 8:30 a.m., and if we theorize that she was alive at that point, then someone surely would have noticed a girl, in a dress, wandering down a country road, if she was walking at that time in the a.m. It was a weekday. School buses would have been running, people out getting ready to feed, or out for their a.m. commute, etc...

Also, with the media, no new news, means it doesn't lead. This case did go national. I was very happy to see that. The news teams have been all around that area (I'm told) but there just hasn't been anything new to report til LE released the new details.
 
  • #256
They are saying now the last place Savannah was seen was at a rural home. Most likely all three men and Savannah were intoxicated. Three intoxicated men and one female equals sex on the men's mind.

Savannah had just given birth to twins about six weeks earlier. If sex occurred could she have stated hemorrhaging? She could have been raped and bled to death. They hid the body. Raped and fled, died somewhere from health issues after fleeing. I'm thinking there is a big possibility the birth of the twins may play a part in her being missing and most likely not alive.

I'd thought of that, but, wouldn't there have had to have been blood evidence in that home if it happened in that home? Blood doesn't just wipe away, it's very difficult to get rid of. Even w/o sex, if she started hemorrhaging, say in the car, and died, or at another home, and died, and they transported her body, there would be evidence of that in the car, I'd think?
 
  • #257
I need to ask, is the rural home they reported on today the same home they searched a few days ago? I'm thinking the rural home 50 miles South of Lexington where Savannah was last is a different home than the one searched and the vehicle was towed.

Richmond is South of Lexington, anyone know if this rural home is close to Richmond?
 
  • #258
I'd thought of that, but, wouldn't there have had to have been blood evidence in that home if it happened in that home? Blood doesn't just wipe away, it's very difficult to get rid of. Even w/o sex, if she started hemorrhaging, say in the car, and died, or at another home, and died, and they transported her body, there would be evidence of that in the car, I'd think?
I have no idea how much blood you would have to lose to lose your life in a situation like this or what other complications may occur. Guess I should do some research on the subject. Did a little to find out how many weeks beofre you should have sex, need to read some more.

If she bled on a mattress, sheets and or blankets they could easily get rid of that.
 
  • #259
Just a note of caution about posting info from facebook. TOS
 
  • #260
A post made in a FB group discussing Savannah being missing.
I’m not sure that can be brought up here. I think unless it’s reported in MSM, it is considered FB rumor (though some do prove to be true). ;)
 
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