Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

[BaileyC]

ITA!

Unfortunately, nowadays it's become all too common to have conflicting stories even within the media.

That is why I try to rely on what the investigators have reported or said or those who are participating in the search for her body.

It is heartwarming to know they aren't giving up, and seem determine to keep searching for this young woman's body.

I'm so afraid though that no matter where they search they may never be able to bring her home, but it wont be because they didn't try. Locating bodies are such a tedious task especially not knowing exactly where she was discarded.

At this point, what happened or what was said back then when she first went missing, doesnt put us any further along when ut comes to the police knowing exactly what happened to her after she was known to be inside of a home with 3 men miles away from where she lived.

That is really the important factor in this case. That was the last known place the police knows she was said to be, but by the next morning she had vanished into thin air without a trace.

What is tragically obvious though is behind the scenes the police believe Savannah is dead. I think they have thought this early on, and that explains the reasons they have been in and the locations they have searched trying recover her body.

They already know they can't bring Savannah home alive to her family members, and the many friends she had.

All they can do know is try to bring Savannah home so she can be properly buried with dignity like she deserves. And find out who killed Savannah, and threw her body away like a bag of trash just like so many others evildoers have done to their victims.

I continue to pray they will find her body.

Imo

I think part of why this forum is here is for members to be able to do their own sleuthing. Many use the facts of a case to come up with their own theories on what may have happened.

I also am thinking all of the searching is because they know she is no longer alive but don't feel they have enough evidenced to convict. I'm hoping that's not the case but it seems that way to me.

We all know there have been cases where you would think the person is no longer living but they're found alive. I know that's what those who love Savannah are still thinking.

If they do find the body and these three men are innocent I feel bad for them. Of course I have no idea what the Police know but I still think she may have fled and ran into more trouble after fleeing. When you're terrified and fleeing you can put yourself in another harmful situation.

I'm not familiar with the search team and how they do things, if they get involved knowing what the Police know etc. Do they get involved when a case has a missing person gone for a certain amount of time, did the Police ask them to search or the family ask them? Do they search for the Police and the Police don't search?

 

[cherrymeg]

I would like to know more about the man she was pictured with and she had her arm wrapped through his. I know nothing about that man. Also what home Savannah went to and who owned it. I've read some on Social media where people from the area seemed to know who owned the home where the car was towed away but haven't read anything about the man she was with.

I thought her arm was at her side and that was a shadow near his elbow. It would be interesting to see the video of them walking. I realize we don't need to see it because we aren't LE. Body language can be very telling also it's possible she would use the person next to her to keep from falling or wobbling in heels, especially if they walked over grass.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

A few things discussed in this article I had not seen mentioned before:
According to her BFF:
1. The three men were not 'friends' but rather co-workers who decided to go out after work for drinks.
2. She would have "jumped out of the car" before she willingly went to a rural county with strangers
3. She was not ever nor would ever get involved with drugs.
One thing I have side-eyed this entire case is the fact that EVERYONE seems to be jumping to that conclusion. And while it is a possible...for some reason, in this particular case, I dont see this happening like this...I feel like everyone is taking from the fact that a bigger crime was committed by assuming drugs were (voluntarily) involved.

Spurlock’s best friend says she would have ‘jumped out of car’ before going to rural county with strangers

Thats one of the most enlightening articles I have read concerning SS. WhileI think drugs may be a factor I think it would be in the way her friend in the article describes. I don't see SS as a drug user based on the descriptions given by those who know her (though I know it doesn't prove anything). For me, I don't care if she had children and went out, or if she went willingly with the men, used drugs, or even slept with 10 men that night. LE doesn't care either. None of that should take the focus off of the fact she is missing and needs to be found. The responsibility to find a missing person is not or should not be impeded by ones moral judgement. As @oceanblueeyes stated.It's white noise and useless to the case. Of course thats JMO
ETA missing word

 

[Kitsey]

A few things discussed in this article I had not seen mentioned before:
According to her BFF:
1. The three men were not 'friends' but rather co-workers who decided to go out after work for drinks.
2. She would have "jumped out of the car" before she willingly went to a rural county with strangers
3. She was not ever nor would ever get involved with drugs.
One thing I have side-eyed this entire case is the fact that EVERYONE seems to be jumping to that conclusion. And while it is a possible...for some reason, in this particular case, I dont see this happening like this...I feel like everyone is taking from the fact that a bigger crime was committed by assuming drugs were (voluntarily) involved.

Spurlock’s best friend says she would have ‘jumped out of car’ before going to rural county with strangers

The tone of the thread has changed drastically in the past few days, that’s for sure. It seems taken for granted that she is a drug user. Until I see a source, I’m going to take that as speculation.

I guess it’s important to clarify that alcohol is a drug, technically, and her mom said she was very intoxicated. For me, that has two bearings in the case: one, her decision making abilities would be impaired, and two, her health could have been impacted in many ways, from blood thinning leading to hemorrhage to alcohol poisoning itself.

Edit: a third way that being intoxicated could have bearing on the case would be that she would have been easier to overtake physically, in a kidnapping or assault secenario.

 

[BaileyC]

A few things discussed in this article I had not seen mentioned before:
According to her BFF:
1. The three men were not 'friends' but rather co-workers who decided to go out after work for drinks.
2. She would have "jumped out of the car" before she willingly went to a rural county with strangers
3. She was not ever nor would ever get involved with drugs.
One thing I have side-eyed this entire case is the fact that EVERYONE seems to be jumping to that conclusion. And while it is a possible...for some reason, in this particular case, I dont see this happening like this...I feel like everyone is taking from the fact that a bigger crime was committed by assuming drugs were (voluntarily) involved.

Spurlock’s best friend says she would have ‘jumped out of car’ before going to rural county with strangers

This account from her best friend is touching and hopefully honest. After reading this I once again am more confused.

The problem I have with the best friends account is in another missing person's case I followed, people close to the missing woman defended her and painted a picture of her that was not honest. I personally do not care about Savannah lifestyle other than knowing some facts to further a theory on what happened to her. After reading this I'm opening my mind up to several possibilities to what may have happened.

You can't just jump out of a car if men or a man is determined to keep you in the car. You may get lucky but I doubt it.

Still surprised her Mom said Savannah was extremely intoxicated. I need to think about all of this more.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I think part of why this forum is here is for members to be able to do their own sleuthing. Many use the facts of a case to come up with their own theories on what may have happened.

I also am thinking all of the searching is because they know she is no longer alive but don't feel they have enough evidenced to convict. I'm hoping that's not the case but it seems that way to me.

We all know there have been cases where you would think the person is no longer living but they're found alive. I know that's what those who love Savannah are still thinking.

If they do find the body and these three men are innocent I feel bad for them. Of course I have no idea what the Police know but I still think she may have fled and ran into more trouble after fleeing. When you're terrified and fleeing you can put yourself in another harmful situation.

I'm not familiar with the search team and how they do things, if they get involved knowing what the Police know etc. Do they get involved when a case has a missing person gone for a certain amount of time, did the Police ask them to search or the family ask them? Do they search for the Police and the Police don't search?

I can't say for this specific case but it is usually the family that asks. CCSAR then gets in touch with whatever LE agency is involved and asked permission to help. They will not help without that approval. In one of the CCSAR FB videos Toney said he was waiting for an ok. I think LE agencies only share necessary information which seems the way CCSAR prefers it. In the Nancy Grace interview with Toney he did mention LE were not very forthcoming with info that would help the search (paraphrased). I believe they did work together on some of the searches as media pictures showed CCSAR & LE together.

 

[mtnlites]

Thats one of the most enlightening articles I have read concerning SS. WhileI think drugs may be a factor I think it would be in the way her friend in the article describes. I don't see SS as a drug user based on the descriptions given by those who know her (though I know it doesn't prove anything). For me, I don't care if she had children and went out, or if she went willingly with the men, used drugs, or even slept with 10 men that night. LE doesn't care either. None of that should take the focus off of the fact she is missing and needs to be found. The responsibility to find a missing person is not or should impeded by ones moral judgement. As @oceanblueeyes stated.It's white noise and useless to the case. Of course thats JMO

This is the fight I have on SM every day. This is a young woman who either met with harm or is still in harm's way. While others may not agree with the choices she made, they absolutely do not have a place in determining whether or not justice should be met or whether Savannah should be found.

 

[ab01]

I think at this point somebody is going to have to give somebody up, Somebody knows what happened that night/early morning and I'll bet one of them will be convinced by LE to talk. With there being 3 or more people involved, its likely one of them may actually have a conscience and willing to talk. MOO

ETA: I think LE has a pretty good idea about what happened, but without a witness or blood/dna evidence they are at a stand still.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Boats are in the Kentucky River this morning. Crews begin another day of the search for Savannah Spurlock @LEX18News

Katherine Collins on Twitter

 

[BaileyC]

I can't say for this specific case but it is usually the family that asks. CCSAR then gets in touch with whatever LE agency is involved and asked permission to help. They will not help without that approval. In one of the CCSAR FB videos Toney said he was waiting for an ok. I think LE agencies only share necessary information which seems the way CCSAR prefers it. In the Nancy Grace interview with Toney he did mention LE were not very forthcoming with info that would help the search (paraphrased). I believe they did work together on some of the searches as media pictures showed CCSAR & LE together.

Thanks this is so helpful and I don't have to research to find an abundance of information. Much appreciated.

 

[Vocalities]

While I believe it is unlikely, there is always the possibility that she left the house and something happened to her. Those guys didn't know her and maybe didn't care about her leaving. Perhaps she did and somebody picked her up.

Again, unlikely, but not impossible.

 

[Misngpersresearcher]

I think it's going to be a while before we get any of these questions answered.

 

[cherrymeg]

The tone of the thread has changed drastically in the past few days, that’s for sure. It seems taken for granted that she is a drug user. Until I see a source, I’m going to take that as speculation.

I guess it’s important to clarify that alcohol is a drug, technically, and her mom said she was very intoxicated. For me, that has two bearings in the case: one, her decision making abilities would be impaired, and two, her health could have been impacted in many ways, from blood thinning leading to hemorrhage to alcohol poisoning itself.

Edit: a third way that being intoxicated could have bearing on the case would be that she would have been easier to overtake physically, in a kidnapping or assault secenario.

Some people blackout but still seem functional. She could have thought they were taking her somewhere closer or even to her friends. I got in a car after too much pre-gaming in Philly and ended up in Jersey. These guys said they could drop me off at my exit (in PA) I vaguely remember thinking "we are passing my exit". I was very, very lucky. I freaked out and ended up at a train station in Jersey. I don't actually remember what I said I know I demanded to be dropped off at home or somewhere that would get me to PA. When you are intoxicated time and directions can get fuzzy.

You offer a person a ride or a place to hangout you better return them to their car or home when they are sober. And not rape or refuse them a way back to where you found them. If you can't drive them home offer to call a cab or uber. Or even look at their phone and call a friend or parent and ask if they can pick them up.

 

[cherrymeg]

I think at this point somebody is going to have to give somebody up, Somebody knows what happened that night/early morning and I'll bet one of them will be convinced by LE to talk. With there being 3 or more people involved, its likely one of them may actually have a conscience and willing to talk. MOO

ETA: I think LE has a pretty good idea about what happened, but without a witness or blood/dna evidence they are at a stand still.

Didn't the mom say there was a girl in the backseat with a guy?

 

[BaileyC]

I thought her arm was at her side and that was a shadow near his elbow. It would be interesting to see the video of them walking. I realize we don't need to see it because we aren't LE. Body language can be very telling also it's possible she would use the person next to her to keep from falling or wobbling in heels, especially if they walked over grass.

I've looked at the pictures several times and I'm seeing her arm around his. Also I'm taking it she wants to be with him. Also if she wanted to walk on the pavement she could have, especially if she didn't want to be walking int he grass. The other man is walking on the pavement. Looks to me she's going where the man in the white hoodie is walking.

I figure if she liked him and trusted him she felt safe with the other guy if they all were going to party. I also feel he is the one she thought she would be close to when partying and I'm putting him as the one who knew her the best and influenced her decision making.

 

[BaileyC]

Didn't the mom say there was a girl in the backseat with a guy?

I read a report where I believe she said maybe a girl was in back but most reports don't read that way.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Maybe you can share the local opinion of Toney Wade? He seems all in on the search for Savannah. Along with searching they seem to be operating on a shoestring.
I know some hotel was donating rooms back in the beginning.
I'm curious how these teams are going to continue with no money to operate!
Also I read the only one left was Toney and his dog who was injured early in the week.

Sorry for jumping in and I can't give an opinion on local perspective of Toney but your right, they do work off of donations. That said they are a pretty well known and respected organization. The do have large fundraisers and events to raise money and I think some faithful backers. The demand for their services has increased with notoriety so may be making it harder financially. As I mentioned previously they are currently working 7 cases so may be spread thin. JMHO but having watched them for a few years and seeing their sincerity & dedication I can't see them turning down a case if they believe they can help. Hard position to be in availability of money vs finding a missing child or adult. All of this is JMHO

 

[cherrymeg]

I read a report where I believe she said maybe a girl was in back but most reports don't read that way.

This is the one interview with the mom.

 

[KEDude]

A few things discussed in this article I had not seen mentioned before:
According to her BFF:
1. The three men were not 'friends' but rather co-workers who decided to go out after work for drinks.
2. She would have "jumped out of the car" before she willingly went to a rural county with strangers
3. She was not ever nor would ever get involved with drugs.
One thing I have side-eyed this entire case is the fact that EVERYONE seems to be jumping to that conclusion. And while it is a possible...for some reason, in this particular case, I dont see this happening like this...I feel like everyone is taking from the fact that a bigger crime was committed by assuming drugs were (voluntarily) involved.

Spurlock’s best friend says she would have ‘jumped out of car’ before going to rural county with strangers

"1. The three men were not 'friends' but rather co-workers who decided to go out after work for drinks."........These guys actually have jobs? Where? OK, only police are privy to that info....

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Didn't the mom say there was a girl in the backseat with a guy?

The mother said that in early reports but then changed it to say it was to dark to tell. I've always thought it odd because Mom didn't say it like she wasn't sure. It was a statement. But who knows.
"She was in a car with two unknown males and one female while on this FaceTime call with her mom."
Missing 22 Year Old Richmond Woman - Wallingford Broadcasting Company