Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

[mtnlites]

What is so secret about a public search? I can appreciate if they find something, to not release details. Do they have to take some sort of oath, or are you just saying your husband doesnt talk about work ?

I thought you were asking about things they may find. No, there is no "oath" as such but during training they are encouraged not to publicly discuss their findings until LE has made some sort of announcement.

Most searches don't yield anything so there's nothing to talk about. They get up early, they go out into bad weather sometimes, they walk or ride for many hours (generally without speaking in case it's a recovery effort and they need to listen for things), they stop for a bite to eat or a bathroom break, and then they come home. My husband's been doing this for 14 years. Unless something significant happens, there's not much to talk about. And if he did tell me anything interesting, I wouldn't be able to share it.

 

[Trudie]

I’m glad her friends are out there talking about her.

I think she’d be in contact with one of her friends by now, if she could. Do You?

 

[Cardinal47]

I'm wondering if they killed her or if she died and they've gotten rid of the body and are lying for some reason. They must have done something that they're afraid of if she did die accidentally. Or they're hiding from something else criminal, not related to this case, that involves them.

If she died accidentally and they panicked and got rid of the body you would think they would have confessed by now. Must be more involved.

I have thought a lot of what could have happened. It was late I think 3am. I'd bet the ranch booze and drugs were involved so nobody would be thinking too clearly. IF she died I would not expect such a good coverup that nobody can find her.
That bothers me the most. If they killed her where did they take her in their rattled brains that search teams and LE can't find her.

 

[KEDude]

Also, let’s not forget the video footage from the bar shows what went on before closing time! LE gets an upfront view of the interaction going on, as well as the number of drinks consumed.

Yes, Info that says alot....but we are not privy to it!

 

[Cardinal47]

I thought you were asking about things they may find. No, there is no "oath" as such but during training they are encouraged not to publicly discuss their findings until LE has made some sort of announcement.

Most searches don't yield anything so there's nothing to talk about. They get up early, they go out into bad weather sometimes, they walk or ride for many hours (generally without speaking in case it's a recovery effort and they need to listen for things), they stop for a bite to eat or a bathroom break, and then they come home. My husband's been doing this for 14 years. Unless something significant happens, there's not much to talk about. And if he did tell me anything interesting, I wouldn't be able to share it.

I have always found it interesting in what the searchers are asked to look for. Gives big hints as to what happened.

 

[KEDude]

I have thought a lot of what could have happened. It was late I think 3am. I'd bet the ranch booze and drugs were involved so nobody would be thinking too clearly. IF she died I would not expect such a good coverup that nobody can find her.
That bothers me the most. If they killed her where did they take her in their rattled brains that search teams and LE can't find her.

Just like what Burt Reynolds said in Deliverance........"We hide him everywhere, anywhere and nowhere".......

Which also brings to mind one issue (it's not pretty): Bodies usually sink as the lungs fill with water, but later on...decomp will bring them right back up again.....

 

[cherrymeg]

I'm wondering if they killed her or if she died and they've gotten rid of the body and are lying for some reason. They must have done something that they're afraid of if she did die accidentally. Or they're hiding from something else criminal, not related to this case, that involves them.

If she died accidentally and they panicked and got rid of the body you would think they would have confessed by now. Must be more involved.

Do we know how old these guys are. Sorry if I missed that. Also does anyone know how close was the nearest hospital is to the house?

 

[bwt42]

I have thought a lot of what could have happened. It was late I think 3am. I'd bet the ranch booze and drugs were involved so nobody would be thinking too clearly. IF she died I would not expect such a good coverup that nobody can find her.
That bothers me the most. If they killed her where did they take her in their rattled brains that search teams and LE can't find her.

Agreed. I don't picture these three guys master criminals that pulled off the perfect crime.

 

[mtnlites]

I have always found it interesting in what the searchers are asked to look for. Gives big hints as to what happened.

That's true. When Eden went missing it was very much presented as a "rescue" search. They were expecting to find her alive, possibly injured. Other times they're instructed to look for articles of clothing, electronics, etc. and though it may not be spoken aloud, everyone understands that they're probably NOT going to be rescuing.

There are times in which community members are asked to volunteer for rescue searches. Some of the smaller, volunteer-based companies like East Kentucky Trackers have their own rules and may be laxer because they're simply asking the public for help in an emergency situation. However, members of the Kentucky Emergency Management Search and Rescue (the official state SAR) members DO go through training and ARE trained on confidentiality. I'd be happy to answer any questions privately if anyone is interested, so as not to clog up the board.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I think she’d be in contact with one of her friends by now, if she could. Do You?

Yes, I think she would be in contact with at least one of them. I don’t see it as a planned getaway from everyone - SS lived with her mom, borrowed her car, kids with their dad, she was dependent on her mom and/or others.

 

[mtnlites]

Respectfully, NICU babies are still cared for by there parents, and arguably require even more care from their parents even if visiting hours restrict the time. But IMO the twins would not have been in the NICU the whole month and were likely with their father much of the time. Even if dad had custody, it still doesn't mean SS didn't care for her babies.

That's what I said. I've asked for a link to source this information about Savannah having never cared for the babies, but I haven't seen one yet.

 

[cherrymeg]

Agreed. I don't picture these three guys master criminals that pulled off the perfect crime.

If they did it I doubt it is the perfect crime. LE has been tight lipped but that's a good thing usually. If this is a rural area there could be places (I hate saying it) to get rid of a body. If they are familiar with the area they have that advantage. But that doesn't mean this crime is perfect.

 

[mtnlites]

Do we know how old these guys are. Sorry if I missed that. Also does anyone know how close was the nearest hospital is to the house?

Don't know the guys' ages. There are several hospitals within a 15-30 minute drive. Danville and Stanford are probably the closest but they're also only about 30 minutes from Lexington which has a bunch of hospitals.

 

[cherrymeg]

Don't know the guys' ages. There are several hospitals within a 15-30 minute drive. Danville and Stanford are probably the closest but they're also only about 30 minutes from Lexington which has a bunch of hospitals.

Thank you! You've been so helpful answering questions about the area and everything. So if there was an accident they weren't in the middle of nowhere an ambulance could get there within at least 30 minutes?

 

[Cardinal47]

If they did it I doubt it is the perfect crime. LE has been tight lipped but that's a good thing usually. If this is a rural area there could be places (I hate saying it) to get rid of a body. If they are familiar with the area they have that advantage. But that doesn't mean this crime is perfect.

But here's the thing I ponder. Were they able to hike to some remote spot in their condition? I know two were able to drive so that says maybe.
The more I ponder the more I lean toward water..a bridge. Pull up, unload and dump. Easy and off they go.
Is there such a fast moving river with a bridge that water is deep and not filled with debris? How many days does it take for a body to rise that has no chains or weights holding it down.
Now the big question. If yes is it one of the ones the search team seems to be focusing on?

 

[ab01]

But here's the thing I ponder. Were they able to hike to some remote spot in their condition? I know two were able to drive so that says maybe.
The more I ponder the more I lean toward water..a bridge. Pull up, unload and dump. Easy and off they go.
Is there such a fast moving river with a bridge that water is deep and not filled with debris? How many days does it take for a body to rise that has no chains or weights holding it down.
Now the big question. If yes is it one of the ones the search team seems to be focusing on?

I’m curious to know, how soon did LE identify who SS left with that night? Everyone is speculating that her body was disposed of right away. Who knows when she really left that property and weather they were intoxicated? Seems to me the possible murder/accidental death and or dumping could have taken place at any time from when she was last seen, until somebody came knocking on their door....moo

 

[jULIA_bEE]

Do we know how old these guys are. Sorry if I missed that. Also does anyone know how close was the nearest hospital is to the house?

They did mention in the article that came out today that two of the men looked to be in their early 20s, according to her friend.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Just like what Burt Reynolds said in Deliverance........"We hide him everywhere, anywhere and nowhere".......

Which also brings to mind one issue (it's not pretty): Bodies usually sink as the lungs fill with water, but later on...decomp will bring them right back up again.....

You're right, her body could literally be anywhere. She may not have even been thrown in the water.

That's what so frustrating about searching for bodies. Many times the police dont even know where to look. It truly is like looking for a teeny tiny needle in an unknown haystack.

I have so much respect and admiration for searchers.

As for her floating to the top if the temps are cold at the time the body went in they will stay submerged, and will not rise to the surface until it warms up.

Cold temps and cold water slows the decomp waydown including slowing the decomp gases which causes bodies to rise to the surface.

That is why many victims who went into the water during the winter will rise in the spring.

That is also why they are described by LE as 'spring floaters.'

If they do find her in water soon imo she will be submerged floating very close to the river or creek bottom etc.

When they do that they can easily get hung up under fallen trees or other debris making them even harder to find.

Imo

 

[Steelslady]

I am pathetically holding out hope that she's just an overwhelmed Mommy that needed a break- she's young, she just turned 23 the other day. While that hope is diminishing, it's still there.

 

[bwt42]

They did mention in the article that came out today that two of the men looked to be in their early 20s, according to her friend.

I think that was her friend & she was probably looking at the same pictures we were.