Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 #3

[Cardinal47]

They’ve been getting food and lodging donated to them. They were asking for monetary donations at one point bc transportation costs were high. I don’t think they’re not staying longer bc of money issues though. I think it’s more of a time problem. It’s been down to just Toney and Pepper for a few days now bc his other volunteers had to hear back home.

I disagree. I think it is money issues! All of these search groups depend on donated money.
If it wasn't a money issue they would not be begging for donations and funding to continue their work over on their own pages!

 

[Cardinal47]

I'm disappointed by the overall lack of community involvement. I reached out to some people today about doing something for the Cajun rescuers before they go home. In most other searches we've had in the area, we've had churches and civic organizations step in to provide meals, supply, and support. There has been some of that here and there this time around, but not anywhere near what I've seen in the past.

Agree. The only thing I have heard of is the hotel donating rooms and a private dinner on a Sunday the family hosted. If anybody knows about any others I'd love to hear about them! My guess is that a couple of rooms were donated in the beginning for a limited number of days.
Probably times up!

 

[Cardinal47]

Talking about searches I regress to where Caylee Anthony was found. Just a couple of blocks from her home in a favorite place Casey and her friends liked to go to! And nobody could find her except in the end by accident!

 

[mtnlites]

Talking about searches I regress to where Caylee Anthony was found. Just a couple of blocks from her home in a favorite place Casey and her friends liked to go to! And nobody could find her except in the end by accident!

Or the woman out in California, I think. Tanya something? She was last seen leaving work and not since. She only lived 10 minutes away. Her husband called the police many times and drove up and down that road maybe 50 times trying to see her car. A week later the police were actually in the middle of interrogating the husband and getting ready to arrest him when they found her-alive. Her car had gone off the road, on the same road she drove every day, and was hidden in the ravine below. She'd been suspended upside down in her wrecked car all week and nobody had seen her.

 

[KEDude]

I can’t either, unless they extend th search into surrounding counties. I was reading through some posts on SM and people were frustrated that they weren’t asking for volunteers to help search. I don’t think people understand how big of an undertaking it is to organize search parties full of civillians without any experience. It doesn’t take a huge amount of people to efficiently search an area.

When Crystal Rogers went missing, people would show up to volunteer and it got to a point where it was too much. Instead of asking for bodies to help search, they were asking for donations like water, bug spray, snacks, etc. The majority of the searches that were held after those first couple months were put together by her family with a core group of people. They still search, 3 years later. They covered a LOT of area, including all the surrounding counties without conducting massive search parties.

Maybe with the better weather, hopefully she will turn up...

 

[jULIA_bEE]

I disagree. I think it is money issues! All of these search groups depend on donated money.
If it wasn't a money issue they would not be begging for donations and funding to continue their work over on their own pages!

Maybe. I don’t think he can just stay forever though- especially when he’s not finding anything. He works in conjunction with LE so there’s also a possibility that they’ve informed him that his services aren’t needed any longer.

 

[mtnlites]

If some feel the police aren't moving fast enough, why not search on your own? As long as no-one is trespassing. The highways are public, rest stops boat ramps.

There have been some groups doing that. There can be problems with it, though.

Hypothetical situation...

For instance, an untrained group is out searching. They find something, like say an article of clothing, that looks like something Savannah wore that night. Because they're not trained in the handling of evidence, they walk all over the scene, potentially destroying any footprints or tire treads that may be there. Then they pick the article of clothing up with their bare hands, getting transfer DNA on it and potentially shaking off any hairs or other smaller traces of evidence that may exist. Lastly, they remove the article from the scene without taking a picture of it the way that it was found so LE has no idea how it looked when it was discovered. Then, after all that happens, they go on social media with photos of them holding it, talking about how they found "evidence". The family see it and it generates a lot of upset. In the end, it winds up not being anything at all. Then again, it might really be something, but in court it's thrown out because of the way it was handled.

This is why volunteer search groups need to be trained and organized and why groups of people can't just go out on their own. Things like this happen a lot. It's why we ask that, if a group wants to search, they meet with an official SAR official and have someone speak to the group before they set out.

Now, with all that said, we do need more searches. We do need more organized group efforts. There are ways to do that, however, that are mindful of evidence.

 

[rsd1200]

Agree. The only thing I have heard of is the hotel donating rooms and a private dinner on a Sunday the family hosted. If anybody knows about any others I'd love to hear about them! My guess is that a couple of rooms were donated in the beginning for a limited number of days.
Probably times up!

Folks in the area have donated at least two boats, and donated their time to run the boats, on the river searches. The woman below has donated lodging, ($100 night min., at the Courtyard,) and plans to donate a dog. This was in Lexington, Fayette County. When they have allowed civilians to search with them, they have had volunteers. I would think it would be up to those closest to SS (friends), in Madison, to do a fundraiser for the SAR team. j.s.

They have been in Kentucky for about nine days. They say that they’ve been shown much hospitality and their accommodations have been completely paid for by a hotel in Lexington.

The General Manager at the Courtyard Marriott in Hamburg said that she didn’t think twice when she heard they were coming to search for Savannah Spurlock. SHF manages the day to day operations at the Courtyard Marriott, but 18 years ago, she was dealing with a tragic family situation.

She stays in touch with them every day at the hotel. She says that Toney Wade and his K-9, Pepper, are now friends. F breeds Dobermans and wants to make another donation to the team.

 

[mtnlites]

Folks in the area have donated at least two boats, and donated their time to run the boats, on the river searches. The woman below has donated lodging, ($100 night min., at the Courtyard,) and plans to donate a dog. This was in Lexington, Fayette County. When they have allowed civilians to search with them, they have had volunteers. I would think it would be up to those closest to SS (friends), in Madison, to do a fundraiser for the SAR team. j.s.

Thank you. This is different from other information that has come out. This is better.

I DO think that a fundraiser in Madison should be done.

 

[jULIA_bEE]

There have been some groups doing that. There can be problems with it, though.

Hypothetical situation...

For instance, an untrained group is out searching. They find something, like say an article of clothing, that looks like something Savannah wore that night. Because they're not trained in the handling of evidence, they walk all over the scene, potentially destroying any footprints or tire treads that may be there. Then they pick the article of clothing up with their bare hands, getting transfer DNA on it and potentially shaking off any hairs or other smaller traces of evidence that may exist. Lastly, they remove the article from the scene without taking a picture of it the way that it was found so LE has no idea how it looked when it was discovered. Then, after all that happens, they go on social media with photos of them holding it, talking about how they found "evidence". The family see it and it generates a lot of upset. In the end, it winds up not being anything at all. Then again, it might really be something, but in court it's thrown out because of the way it was handled.

This is why volunteer search groups need to be trained and organized and why groups of people can't just go out on their own. Things like this happen a lot. It's why we ask that, if a group wants to search, they meet with an official SAR official and have someone speak to the group before they set out.

Now, with all that said, we do need more searches. We do need more organized group efforts. There are ways to do that, however, that are mindful of evidence.

PLEASE tell me you’ve seen this from a particular group?! Lol this very thing happened while a group was out searching for SS. They found horse hair in barbed wire and got every one all riled up bc horse hair looks similar to human hair except it’s A LOT thicker. They also took pics of their findings and were holding them up with a knife.

 

[mtnlites]

PLEASE tell me you’ve seen this from a particular group?! Lol this very thing happened while a group was out searching for SS. They found horse hair in barbed wire and got every one all riled up bc horse hair looks similar to human hair except it’s A LOT thicker. They also took pics of their findings and were holding them up with a knife.

Yes, ha ha. I was posting as "hypothetical" but you know that it was true. This did happen.

I have no problem with people getting involved. I think more people need to do so. There are good examples and bad ones of how people can do it, though. Exhibit A...

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Is the clearer picture of the purse her or someone modeling the purse she had?

I think it's her. If you look at video at 1:03 spot she is wearing what appears to be the same color clothes and black top is same length. The way her hand and fingers are positioned instantly reminded me of this pic for some reason. I wonder if they worked to make the pic in the video clearer? JMO

 

[cherrymeg]

I think it's her. If you look at video at 1:03 spot she is wearing what appears to be the same color clothes and black top is same length. The way her hand and fingers are positioned instantly reminded me of this pic for some reason. I wonder if they worked to make the pic in the video clearer? JMO

I can't find the other picture now. I didn't know if it was her under different lighting or from another camera. Not that it matters, it just looked model like and clear so the purse could be shown off. I didn't know if the outfit was modeled. I glad either way that they are showing a good picture of her purse.

 

[Choochoobella]

I don't think this has been posted yet.
Son of missing Savannah Spurlock celebrates his birthday without mom | Daily Mail Online

 

[Choochoobella]

They’ve been getting food and lodging donated to them. They were asking for monetary donations at one point bc transportation costs were high. I don’t think they’re not staying longer bc of money issues though. I think it’s more of a time problem. It’s been down to just Toney and Pepper for a few days now bc his other volunteers had to hear back home.

CCSAR is definitely a non-profit. If anyone else would like to donate, I was able to donate just by clicking on a donate button on their Facebook page.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Absolutely! These groups work on donations and fundraisers. It's just a rumor but I'm reading Cajun Searchers are doing this search pretty much on their own dime! What does this say for the community with a missing young woman!

If true it speaks volumes about the community and how they are perceived by outsiders. Makes me grateful I live in an area where everyone is willing to help in what ever capacity possible even to the point of sacrifice regardless who it is that needs help. Separately, if Toney is going on his own dime? I can't even reconcile that happening. I don't know that any of what I am commenting to is true. Hopefully it's not. So JMHO

 

[Steelslady]

Thank you. This is different from other information that has come out. This is better.

I DO think that a fundraiser in Madison should be done.

I do agree with @Cardinal47 though. You usually hear of restaurants donating food to the searchers, grocery stores donating water and healthy snacks- food alone is a huge cost for these searchers- they have to eat. Usually churches also make meals. We really haven't heard much of this kind of hospitality from the community towards the searchers in this case.

 

[Steelslady]

Also, I don't know about the town where they are searching, but our town shares a high school with the next town over. They use it a couple of times a year during bad weather which causes power outages for residents of both towns to stay warm and eat 3 meals a day until the power comes back on. I wonder if this town's high school does the same thing for their residents, and if so, why not offer free shelter for the night for these guys and gals? Our high school also has great showers so they can clean up, too.

 

[mtnlites]

If true it speaks volumes about the community and how they are perceived by outsiders. Makes me grateful I live in an area where everyone is willing to help in what ever capacity possible even to the point of sacrifice regardless who it is that needs help. Separately, if Toney is going on his own dime? I can't even reconcile that happening. I don't know that any of what I am commenting to is true. Hopefully it's not. So JMHO

I said about a week ago that SS's disappearance isn't getting anywhere near the level of attention that other disappearances around here have. Within the past 5 years or so we've had two high-profile disappearances that have taken place on my road. In both situations we were asked to check our farm. During the last one, Eden's (she has a thread on here), my whole tiny community came alive. We don't even have a post office here but our little church opened their doors to the searchers for meals, we had hundreds of community members looking and cooking food, etc. Nobody went to bed until she was found. I realize that's a different kind of disappearance, of course. That was a small child. Still...Even with Brooke's disappearance we've had a lot of fundraisers in Madison County. People hung up big signs and banners on buildings. Unfortunately, most of those have faded or been removed, but they WERE there.

In comparison, things have been quiet for Savannah. Not silent, just quiet.

And while it's great that someone donated rooms to the searchers, that was in Fayette County. Where is Madison's involvement? That's her home county. The meals and rooms that have been provided for Toney's team were also for his team. There have been other searchers involved.

 

[mtnlites]

I do agree with @Cardinal47 though. You usually hear of restaurants donating food to the searchers, grocery stores donating water and healthy snacks- food alone is a huge cost for these searchers- they have to eat. Usually churches also make meals. We really haven't heard much of this kind of hospitality from the community towards the searchers in this case.

I agree and if you read my post above, you'll see that I'm frustrated as well. It probably wouldn't be possible for Madison or Garrard's high schools to provide shelter, but there are other places that could. It's not out of the realm of possibility to think that some of our churches could open their doors. My house is approximately 1.5 hours away from where they are staying in Lex, but I was getting to the point last night where I was wondering if I should invite them over here and have my friends do something for them.