Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 #4

[mtnlites]

I wonder if these guys were buying her drinks all night or paid her tab after the friend left. I don't think they set out to take her from the bar and kill her. I think something happened . She resisted one of their advances or they partied and things got out of control. imo.
With many people certain drugs or alcohol can make them angry or violent.

This is what I think probably happened, too. I don't think killing was anyone's initial intent. There was nothing particularly stealthy about anyone's actions: crowded bar where people were certain to see them, Savannah being with a friend who could ID them, downtown Lex where there were sure to be cameras, Savannah having a cellphone that could be traced, etc.

 

[Reachingfornettles]

Maybe. I didn't say she didn't make it to the property though.

Im sure they had dogs on their search? As hormonal as new mothers are im sure they would pick up a scent. Baby scent on her also.. O the smell of babies. Very distinct...MOO

 

[mtnlites]

In other news, the Kentucky River reached levels today that it hasn't seen in a long time. Even with a break in the rain, the river's rising. Not sure what Garrard County looks like, but neighboring Madison (eastern part of county) and Estill on the other side were hit like a hammer. If we're not looking at swimming pools in our yards then we're looking at 2 feet of mud. It's pretty bad. There have also been several accidents of people trying to drive across the washed-out roads. With the candlelight vigil this weekend, though, Savannah isn't being forgotten. People in my newsfeed have also been using the #SavannahStrong hashtag, which is something I hadn't seen until yesterday. Every little bit counts since it helps keeping her in our collective consciousness.

 

[Kitsey]

As I recall, there was talk of moonshine in the Rhodens’ thread when the case was ice cold, as well.

A few weeks ago I was split 50/50 as to foul play or accident/running away in this case. Now I’m 99% leaning toward foul play. It’s just been so quiet

 

[rsd1200]

Im sure they had dogs on their search? As hormonal as new mothers are im sure they would pick up a scent. Baby scent on her also.. O the smell of babies. Very distinct...MOO

Ya'll, I can't say it on the board, so alluding, and a couple thoughts, are as far as I'm going with the convo. Kentucky has their own dogs that came in before the Cajun's.

 

[mtnlites]

Im sure they had dogs on their search? As hormonal as new mothers are im sure they would pick up a scent. Baby scent on her also.. O the smell of babies. Very distinct...MOO

Yes, they've used dogs on all the official searches.

 

[Stunned]

No....but it wouldn't be that odd that he took her for an early-morning ride...yes?....but that cell phone and purse......was it still under the seat in the car when he ( they) dumped her???

LOL......trust me...there's nothing in the pool....maybe half full of nasty water.......

Maybe under the pool?

 

[mtnlites]

As I recall, there was talk of moonshine in the Rhodens’ thread when the case was ice cold, as well.

A few weeks ago I was split 50/50 as to foul play or accident/running away in this case. Now I’m 99% leaning toward foul play. It’s just been so quiet

In my experience, when we're not getting a lot of news and info about a case, a ton of theories start flying around (drugs, human trafficking, fugue state, kidnapping, running away to start new life, etc.) simply because we don't have much to go on.

Where are you, Savannah? Somebody knows what happened.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

From what I understand, there were two, possibly three, homes that were searched and possibly three, but at least two, vehicles towed. I don't know if the home that was televised, was the first home searched. The news just happened to pick that one up. The white house w/the fence; I highly doubt that the female in question, entered that house, unless the parents were not home. I don't doubt, however, that she was near, or very possibly, on that property, in the early morning hours of Jan 4th (parents, if home, would be asleep). I do not see the parents as playing a role in this, but I've been wrong before.

Thanks for trying. Trying to relay already confusing info is confusing . It's actually the known number, locations and times of pings people have talked about that I am trying to make sense of. There have been posts referring to one here or one there. One may be referring to the same one but lacks info to know if it is referring to the same or different one posted by someone else. I know Toney Wade seemed to say a "ping" led LE to the house that was searched in his Nancy Grace interview (I've posted that link a few times this thread). I'm not sure if it is 3 0r 4 other times & locations that have been spoken of. Just trying to bring it all together.

 

[bwt42]

Hate it when a case gets to the point that the only thing a google search finds are WS comments and old articles. Hoping LE gets the break they need to break this. In another week it will be 2 months since SS's twin babies saw there Mommy. That's longer then the precious mount of time they had with her. And her other 2 must be asking questions and miss her. Need a break in this case!

Only thing I've seen in msm about SS seeing her kids was her girlfriend saying she was looking forward to seeing the twins the following Friday. Since she went missing on a Friday, I'll assume that was in a week.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

In my experience, when we're not getting a lot of news and info about a case, a ton of theories start flying around (drugs, human trafficking, fugue state, kidnapping, running away to start new life, etc.) simply because we don't have much to go on.

Where are you, Savannah? Somebody knows what happened.

True. JMO but down time can be a good time to go back and read, watch, listen and refresh older reports. Things get forgotten or overlooked throughout time.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Only thing I've seen in msm about SS seeing her kids was her girlfriend saying she was looking forward to seeing the twins the following Friday. Since she went missing on a Friday, I'll assume that was in a week.

Not sure what your saying in reference to my post?

 

[rsd1200]

Thanks for trying. Trying to relay already confusing info is confusing . It's actually the known number, locations and times of pings people have talked about that I am trying to make sense of. There have been posts referring to one here or one there. One may be referring to the same one but lacks info to know if it is referring to the same or different one posted by someone else. I know Toney Wade seemed to say a "ping" led LE to the house that was searched in his Nancy Grace interview (I've posted that link a few times this thread). I'm not sure if it is 3 0r 4 other times & locations that have been spoken of. Just trying to bring it all together.

I'd not doubt that her phone sent a "signal ping" of some sort, from near there. I'd not doubt if there was another phone or two that was very active in that area on that early morning.

There are 5 Towers found within 4.00 miles of Perkins Ln, Lancaster, KY 40444. The nearest tower is 2.13 miles away.

 

[Kittybunny]

I wonder if these guys were buying her drinks all night or paid her tab after the friend left. I don't think they set out to take her from the bar and kill her. I think something happened . She resisted one of their advances or they partied and things got out of control. imo.
With many people certain drugs or alcohol can make them angry or violent.

This is my theory too. As to the poster who said it would be unusual for a guy in his 20s to take a girl to his parents house in the wee early morning hours...I don't think it is. A lot of 20-somethings live with their parents still because of the economy, and they usually have their own setup, maybe in the basement, where they come and go as they please.

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I really am hopeful that LE is working hard on this, building their case, and keeping an eye on their suspect(s). Her friends and family need answers.

 

[StarEyes]

As morbid as this sounds, it’s the truth: with all the severe flooding, perhaps IF Savannah has passed on, something will turn up. Anything from clothes, shoes, purse, jewelry.... I don’t live all that far away, but only minor flooding here, and I am SICK to death of this rain! All we can hope for is that perhaps the rapid waters will bring a clue or someone will talk. I think so often of Savannah, in the same way I thought so often of Morgan Harrington (I lived close to that at the time). I pray for a speedy recovery one way or the other, but trust that something will be discovered, even if it’s a long time from now. Plus, let’s not forget: we don’t know what all evidence/clues LE may have that they can’t release to the public. Fingers crossed. JMO, only.

 

[Steelslady]

As morbid as this sounds, it’s the truth: with all the severe flooding, perhaps IF Savannah has passed on, something will turn up. Anything from clothes, shoes, purse, jewelry.... I don’t live all that far away, but only minor flooding here, and I am SICK to death of this rain! All we can hope for is that perhaps the rapid waters will bring a clue or someone will talk. I think so often of Savannah, in the same way I thought so often of Morgan Harrington (I lived close to that at the time). I pray for a speedy recovery one way or the other, but trust that something will be discovered, even if it’s a long time from now. Plus, let’s not forget: we don’t know what all evidence/clues LE may have that they can’t release to the public. Fingers crossed. JMO, only.

Yes, flooding waters can certainly loosen dirt over graves and articles of clothing.

 

[LVinNC]

IMO... I really don’t think she was inside the house with the fence that was shown on the news. The car that they towed from that site was seen on google images at another random time. I feel like maybe someone hid some evidence in this old car thinking no one would find it but obviously the dogs hit on something there.

 

[KEDude]

With the amount of time that has elapsed between the parking lot video, the Mom face time, the last cell phone signal and when the male in truck was stopped and questioned days later.......Savannah could be anywhere....just spin a compass needle...far north as the Cincinnati burbs..far west as Louisville, far south as Tennessee border or far east as Ashland.....

 

[ardean]

You're making an awful lot of assumptions here, some based on things that I've never heard of.

For starters, Garrard County is not the "moonshine capital of Kentucky." You'd have to go much further east and about 60 years back in time for that. The idea that "every other farmer" has ajar socked away is based on Hollywood stereotypes that date back to the Hatfield and McCoy feud (which was in West Virginia, not Kentucky). I live on a farm, my neighbors are farmers, and my family goes back as farmers for 5 generations in eastern KY. Despite popular belief, we don't all sit around our coal stoves at night, talking about our stills and taking fake engines out of our cars to do a midnight run. I've had moonshine exactly one time in my life and I wouldn't know where to buy it. Quite unfortunately, it's become a lost art-something that's dying with the older generation. It's a pity. It's becoming SO much of a lost art, in fact, that down in Tennessee people are getting grants to make moonshine before the skill is lost completely. Even when moonshining WAS popular around here, it's not like everyone did it. Even then, only a few people had the skill-that's why they were respected and feared. It wasn't a community project.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but we here in KY mostly just buy our alcohol at the Liquor Barn or, in a pinch, Wal-Mart.

Richmond, where Savannah is from, isn't even a farming community anymore. It has a major university right in the middle of downtown and every other week a new subdivision with McMansions that all look just alike pop up over what were once hills and fields. Not too many farms left and the rest of Central Kentucky is looking the same. You'd have to actually try and look hard for someone who still farmed. Even the people who live on farmland no longer really farm the way they used to. They work university jobs, at Amazon in Lexington, at the Bluegrass Army Depot, etc. Finding an actual "farmer"around here is difficult. It's sad.

Yes, there IS a problem with heroin laced with Fentanyl. Heroin is a big problem facing our communities. Thanks to so many restrictions put on pain pills, heroin is simpler easier and cheaper to get. But that's a problem all over, not just in Kentucky. We have no idea if Savannah has ever been on any illegal substances.

Formaldehyde-laced marijuana is a new one to me. Not anything I've heard about around here. In fact, KY is in line to pass a marijuana bill and soon it may at least be legal for medicinal purposes, if not recreational. We here tend to take marijuana very seriously and have been lobbying for it for a long time. It's not a substance we tend to mess with because we WANT it legalized.

I think it's possible that drugs *may* have played a part here. What part and what drugs I have no real opinion on. I think it's possible, too, that they had nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Hope you didn't take offense. Kentucky is very similar and not too far from VA where I am. If you don't see the shine it's just not discussed. Yes the younger crowd doesn't usually touch it. It is generally much more potent than what you can buy at the liquor barn. I don't think you understand we are all wanting the same result here and jumping on each other does not help at all. I am not offended. I thank you for the interest and help you add to finding the missing. Does that make sense?

 

[ardean]

It's new to me as in I haven't heard about any formaldehyde-laced marijuana deaths from it in this county or the next one over.It may be common but it's nowhere near the top 10 causes of death here so not the first thing my mind goes to.

Here it caused permanent brain damage for a couple good kids and I didn't dig much deeper.