Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 #6 *Arrest*

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, it sounds like if SS was unable to talk, she wasn't in a condition to legally give consent according to KY law, so if indeed there's video evidence, there might be more charges .
This link has KY consent laws, but you have to scroll to view them because they're arranged in question form and alphabetically by state: https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-crime-definitions-export.cfm?state=Kentucky&group=9

Thank you.

I'm still enraged they could do this to anyone when they all knew she was not in any condition to give legal consent as required by law.

Even though it broke my heart for Savannah to know she was being sexually assaulted by these lowlife scums, I'm glad Joe Friday posted it.

I'm positive LE, and the prosecutors are aware of it, and most likely have served a SW to obtain it.

So I think it's highly likely they may also present this evidence to the GJ for the jurors to decide if other charges should also be brought against anyone seen on the replusive video being passed around to coworkers.

Imo, each one deserves to be severely punished for assaulting Savannah when they all knew she was in no condition to legally consent to anythiny, and they clearly say they all knew it, but didn't care.

So they can't all of a sudden pretend she was of a clear mind to consent. It's so heartbreaking how Savannah was so victimized by all of them before she was killed, with her body found naked, and bound.

I don't even want to think about what all she endured before her life was taken. Imo, they were like animals preying on the weak who they knew wasn't in the frame of mind to make clear choices to make legal decisions.

Imo, this was nothing more than a gang sexual assault, and we unfortunately have seen these same circumstances Savannah was in before when those creeps also took advantage of someone they knew wasn't in the right frame of mind to make any legal decision too.

Most all of those cases ended in convictions too because the video the predators took of their victims clearly shows the jurors what happened showing none of the victims were in a clear mind to make any clear decisions about anything.

All who assaulted Savannah should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

So I hope the DA also brings forth evidence of all the crimes done against Savannah by all three.

No one should getaway with such callous criminal depravity against anyone like they subjected Savannah to, no one.

Jmho

 

[?mysterian?]

Thank you.

I'm still enraged they could do this to anyone when they all knew she was not in any condition to give legal consent as required by law.

Even though it broke my heart for Savannah to know she was being sexually assaulted by these lowlife scums, I'm glad Joe Friday posted it.

I'm positive LE, and the prosecutors are aware of it, and most likely have served a SW to obtain it.

So I think it's highly likely they may also present this evidence to the GJ for the jurors to decide if other charges should also be brought against anyone seen on the replusive video being passed around to coworkers.

Imo, each one deserves to be severely punished for assaulting Savannah when they all knew she was in no condition to legally consent to anythiny, and they clearly say they all knew it, but didn't care.

So they can't all of a sudden pretend she was of a clear mind to consent. It's so heartbreaking how Savannah was so victimized by all of them before she was killed, with her body found naked, and bound.

I don't even want to think about what all she endured before her life was taken. Imo, they were like animals preying on the weak who they knew wasn't in the frame of mind to make clear choices to make legal decisions.

Imo, this was nothing more than a gang sexual assault, and we unfortunately have seen these same circumstances Savannah was in before when those creeps also took advantage of someone they knew wasn't in the right frame of mind to make any legal decision too.

Most all of those cases ended in convictions too because the video the predators took of their victims clearly shows the jurors what happened showing none of the victims were in a clear mind to make any clear decisions about anything.

All who assaulted Savannah should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

So I hope the DA also brings forth evidence of all the crimes done against Savannah by all three.

No one should getaway with such callous criminal depravity against anyone like they subjected Savannah to, no one.

Jmho

You're welcome

I agree with you.

I hope this reported video evidence is presented to the grand jury. I hope any witnesses that were shown the video and talked to those involved in the recording of the reported video are going to testify before the grand jury. I hope the investigation includes all this and whatever else is discovered.

Justice for SS.

 

[flashy09]

I hope the timeline comes out about what evidence the police had including the video evidence. I want to know where SS's body was during the first searches. Was she alive being held somewhere during that time? I want to find out what the decision process was for the three guys to take her and if they had planned on taking a drunk girl home. Who goes around showing friends and coworkers videos like that? It says a lot about where society is going.

I think it was right there and missed! Maybe the cold and garbage bags threw off the scent? I think he put her in the back of his parent's vehicle, the one that was confiscated in the search (I think the dogs did hit on that) during the dinner or whatever he his first evening visit was for and then came back and buried her during the early hours of the night.

Detectives also stated under oath that within hours of her disappearance, Sparks was at his parents' home where her body was eventually found.

"He was there for approximately two hours on the 4th and returned the morning hours of the 5th (of January)," testified Detective Tye Chavies.

Her phone went dead at 8:30 am - more than likely turned off as she probably had fully charged it before going out.

I think she died shortly after the AA men left.

I think it all started innocently enough. They met at the bar, SS felt a connection (was going to say spark, but...ugh) to one or both of the AA men and they invited her back to "party". Sure they will hoping for some kind of sex. Promised her a ride back when the AA men left that night. She was too drunk/drugged to leave with AA men, DS said he would take her in the morning, AA men left, DS tried for some sort of sex, SS said no, and that was that.

 

[marcolepsy]

I think it was right there and missed! Maybe the cold and garbage bags threw off the scent? I think he put her in the back of his parent's vehicle, the one that was confiscated in the search (I think the dogs did hit on that) during the dinner or whatever he his first evening visit was for and then came back and buried her during the early hours of the night.

Detectives also stated under oath that within hours of her disappearance, Sparks was at his parents' home where her body was eventually found.

"He was there for approximately two hours on the 4th and returned the morning hours of the 5th (of January)," testified Detective Tye Chavies.

Her phone went dead at 8:30 am - more than likely turned off as she probably had fully charged it before going out.

I think she died shortly after the AA men left.

I think it all started innocently enough. They met at the bar, SS felt a connection (was going to say spark, but...ugh) to one or both of the AA men and they invited her back to "party". Sure they will hoping for some kind of sex. Promised her a ride back when the AA men left that night. She was too drunk/drugged to leave with AA men, DS said he would take her in the morning, AA men left, DS tried for some sort of sex, SS said no, and that was that.

Yeah. Just reading the body language in those surveillance caps is telling. DS is grumpy and the odd man out. Like these people are just using him for his crash-pad. I feel like one way or the other, the other guys ditched out. SS wakes up and is like WTF. She either goes to DS and says, "How the f could you let them do that to me!?!?!?!" or he realizes she's trapped there alone with him and he's just going to take what he was left out of the night before.

 

[BaileyC]

I posted in an earlier post my first thoughts would be Savannah died from an overdose of drugs. I also said it could be murder but I would go with overdose first, manslaughter 2nd and murder last. I gave all of the reasons for thinking this most likely was an overdose. Some of you replied and the way she was disposed of told many of you this was murder. Some even think she was held before death because of the tape around her ankles. My response was I had heard David was a hunter and also hunted deer. That you tie a deer's legs together after killing it to transport it. I found this information when researching this and thought it may explain better why he may have folded her and taped her legs together. I believe it most likely was done to transport her and bury her. Folding A Dead Horse - Chronicle Forums

I also mentioned I thought he most likely disposed of her because of panic, fear and maybe embarrassment. Also because he felt drugs were involved in why she died and the behavior of all before she was found dead or died is something he didn't want known. Someone replied if he had panicked that panic would have wore off in a couple of hours or quickly and he would have done the right thing. I also researched how a person may react to a traumatic situation and found we all react differently and symptoms from a traumatic situation can last days or months. Many people want to run from something traumatic and also may go into denial. Some suffer from traumatic shock and it can last for years. It's reasonable to think David may have panicked and also didn't want others to know what had taken place at his home so he disposed of the body. It also could be they or he gave her a drug without her knowing it and that is what he was afraid of. You can overdose on a drug or a combination of drugs and alcohol and it can take hours before you end up dying from the lethal dose. Savannah could have died in his bed after having sexual intercourse with one, two or all of the men. That would be the reason for her being naked and in the bedroom. Also the sex could have been rape.

If the men really did have oral sex with Savannah then it could be David wanted more than oral sex and he forced her and she died during an attempt to have sex with her again. I do think she was naked from having sex and that her clothes were not removed after death. Items of hers and also his were found and could be the clothes were included in those items which were buried on the property. I don't think if the tape was to hold her captive he would have left the tape on her legs when burying her or if the clothes were removed after death he would have buried the clothes with her. Also he put the small rug at the back of her body in the bags when he bagged her. It could be she died on that rug, blood was on it or he put her there after death but figured he threw the rug away because of evidence she died. We don't know how much blood was on the door but LE found blood that was not seen and they had to use a chemical or something special they use to detect blood to find the blood. They didn't say if it had been cleaned so we don't know how much blood was originally there.

If the video is fact and she did have sex with all three men and was incoherent they may charge them with a crime but for me to make a decision on if it would be an offense for her to have oral sex with all three men, I would have to know much more than what has been said. Just being intoxicated is not enough to know for sure if it was a crime and it's hearsay that this tape even exists. I did do some research on how they determine if it's considered rape when someone is intoxicated and claims rape because they were intoxicated. I don't think just her speech being incoherent would be enough to make a criminal charge.
I edited to correct a couple of typo's.

 

[kc1023]

Yeah, poor David, so traumatized by a dead girl in his possession that he may or may not have drugged and may or may not have raped and may or may not have murdered. I hope he can recover from such trauma. What was she even thinking dying at his house. The nerve.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

While I respect everyone's opinion, I still believe the evidence points to exactly what this is. Another murder of a vulnerable woman.

Imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yeah, poor David, so traumatized by a dead girl in his possession that he may or may not have drugged and may or may not have raped and may or may not have murdered. I hope he can recover from such trauma. What was she even thinking dying at his house. The nerve.

I have absolutely nothing, but great disdain for David.

Everything he did is the same as other murderers have done in the aftermath, and coverup after killing their victims..

I'm assured his victim will receive deserved justice.

The truth always has a way of coming to light, and often it's in criminal trials no matter how hard the DT tries to suppress it or how hard they try to blame the victim.

Jmho

 

[marcolepsy]

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Yeah, poor David, so traumatized by a dead girl in his possession that he may or may not have drugged and may or may not have raped and may or may not have murdered. I hope he can recover from such trauma. What was she even thinking dying at his house. The nerve.

Right? He looks like such a scared shrinking violet in all of his mug shots. You just want to hold him and tell him everything's going to be alright.
Hopefully cops probably already have a good idea of what happened. There's got to be some reason the anonymity of the other dudes has been preserved this entire time. Either everything they say is verified and has pointed to DS the entire time, or they're all caught up in a big liars crossfire and LE can't make heads or tails of who's more full of bs.

 

[BaileyC]

Yeah, poor David, so traumatized by a dead girl in his possession that he may or may not have drugged and may or may not have raped and may or may not have murdered. I hope he can recover from such trauma. What was she even thinking dying at his house. The nerve.

I deleted this because I really don't know if addressing my concerns with another post to me is the right thing to do. No fun to read conflict between members.

 

[bwt42]

If a man & woman leave a bar intoxicated & have sex, the man is guilty of rape? I hope my wife will not press charges against me.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think it was right there and missed! Maybe the cold and garbage bags threw off the scent? I think he put her in the back of his parent's vehicle, the one that was confiscated in the search (I think the dogs did hit on that) during the dinner or whatever he his first evening visit was for and then came back and buried her during the early hours of the night.

Detectives also stated under oath that within hours of her disappearance, Sparks was at his parents' home where her body was eventually found.

"He was there for approximately two hours on the 4th and returned the morning hours of the 5th (of January)," testified Detective Tye Chavies.

Her phone went dead at 8:30 am - more than likely turned off as she probably had fully charged it before going out.

I think she died shortly after the AA men left.

I think it all started innocently enough. They met at the bar, SS felt a connection (was going to say spark, but...ugh) to one or both of the AA men and they invited her back to "party". Sure they will hoping for some kind of sex. Promised her a ride back when the AA men left that night. She was too drunk/drugged to leave with AA men, DS said he would take her in the morning, AA men left, DS tried for some sort of sex, SS said no, and that was that.

What it really shows when he buried her bound, and naked dead body on his own parents property is how he only cares about himself, and no one else.

He didn't care how it would affect his family or the trauma, and pain of knowing he put his victim there. Imo, he didn't care who may be victimized for all that mattered to him was covering his own worthless azz.

Imo, he is a self centered despicable human being. He sounds very much like a narcissist who only cares about himself.

Imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If a man & woman leave a bar intoxicated & have sex, the man is guilty of rape? I hope my wife will not press charges against me.

You need to read the law that has already been provided, and linked about what constitutes rape or a sexual assault.

And yes there have been cases where a wife was raped by her husband. Just being married and/or the spouse being highly intoxicated at the time doesn't change the fact they had been raped while under the influence of some kind. So if you took advantage of your wife knowing she was highly intoxicated at the time it could put you in jeopardy if she filed a report with LE. Being married does not immune either partner from having charges brought against them.

Legally someone can be charged for sexual assault or rape if either partner is under the influence of some kind where they were unable to legally consistent.

Heck, my hubby had to have a medical test done last week, and he was only under sedation for about 30 minutes. Before being put under he had to sign a consent form stating he wouldnt drive, use any machinery or sign any legal papers of any kind for the rest of that day. Had he done so ...anything he did would be illegal as it should be.

Jmho

 

[bwt42]

What it really shows when he buried her bound, and naked dead body on his own parents property is how he only cares about himself, and no one else.

He didn't care how it would affect his family or the trauma, and pain of knowing he put his victim there. Imo, he didn't care who may be victimized for all that mattered to him was covering his own worthless azz.

Imo, he is a self centered despicable human being. He sounds very much like a narcissist who only cares about himself.

Imoo

Agree. Not a very good example of the human race.

 

[bwt42]

You need to read the law that has already been provided, and linked about what constitutes rape or a sexual assault.

And yes there have been cases where a wife was raped by her husband. Just being married and/or the spouse being highly intoxicated at the time doesn't change the fact they had been raped while under the influence of some kind. So if you took advantage of your wife knowing she was highly intoxicated at the time it could put you in jeopardy if she filed a report with LE. Being married does not immune either partner from having charges brought against them.

Legally someone can be charged for sexual assault or rape if either partner is under the influence of some kind where they were unable to legally consistent.

Heck, my hubby had to have a medical test done last week, and he was only under sedation for about 30 minutes. Before being put under he had to sign a consent form stating he wouldnt drive, use any machinery or sign any legal papers of any kind for the rest of that day. Had he done so ...anything he did would be illegal as it should be.

Jmho

Why wouldn't the woman be charged? Is it who gets to the police station first?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I deleted this because I really don't know if addressing my concerns with another post to me is the right thing to do. No fun to read conflict between members.

Bailey even though I respectfully disagree with your opinions about this case, I do know you have a right to express them like we all do here as long as we all abide by TOS.

I don't think you should have deleted your posts.
In every case there will always be differing opinions, and this case is no different.

Jmhoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why wouldn't the woman be charged? Is it who gets to the police station first?

Iirc, women have been charged as well.

I just read a case last year about a woman who murdered her male partner that night because he refused to have sex with her.

Another case I remember 2 females kidnapped a man, and forced him to perform sex acts he did not want to do.

So the laws of sexual assault or rape is not specified to only one gender.

Jmho

 

[BaileyC]

You need to read the law that has already been provided, and linked about what constitutes rape or a sexual assault.

And yes there have been cases where a wife was raped by her husband. Just being married and/or the spouse being highly intoxicated at the time doesn't change the fact they had been raped while under the influence of some kind. So if you took advantage of your wife knowing she was highly intoxicated at the time it could put you in jeopardy if she filed a report with LE. Being married does not immune either partner from having charges brought against them.

Legally someone can be charged for sexual assault or rape if either partner is under the influence of some kind where they were unable to legally consistent.

Heck, my hubby had to have a medical test done last week, and he was only under sedation for about 30 minutes. Before being put under he had to sign a consent form stating he wouldnt drive, use any machinery or sign any legal papers of any kind for the rest of that day. Had he done so ...anything he did would be illegal as it should be.

Jmho

When I started researching, someone can be charged with rape for having sex with an intoxicated woman, I realized this is not quite what it sounds. My understanding is they made this law to charge those that rape a person who is unconscious while being intoxicated. It would be way too easy to convict a person of rape just by saying you were drinking and never said yes to sex. If it's a he said, she said, how could you prove what your mental state was from intoxication, when you say you were raped. As far as this supposed video of Savannah performing oral sex on all three men, seems to me Law Enforcement would look at a lot more than if she just was slurring her words. I listened to the Youtube video made by the wife of a co-worker of David's and the two men, who supposedly viewed this video but no way to know if she was telling the truth. I believe her husband had viewed the video and then told her what he saw. I have thought during this entire case a lot of what I had heard was fact and it turned out not to be fact. I have been shocked at how people just come up with so much that is just bunk. We have nothing from Law Enforcement saying anything to do with sex happened so I'm just speculating when I even mention sex in my opinion. Savannah may not have participated in sex, drugs or even drinking. We have no proof she did, we only know she was at a bar and her Mom said she sounded intoxicated. The pictures from the security cameras at the bar showed me a cold Savannah and in one picture she looked sad to me but not intoxicated so it was noticeable and she looked to be walking alright in the picture of her arm in arm with one of the men. I've questioned how she became so intoxicated in such a short time from leaving the bar, up until her phone call about fifteen to thirty minutes later. Also if the video of sex is true, what made her that intoxicated in a couple of hours later? I never thought she had been given something in a drink but now I'm considering that may have happened. Possibly right before leaving the bar and it took a little while to take effect. Lots of possibilities but knowing if you're choosing the right one is difficult for me. I assume she drank at the bar and did more of something later. Just not sure if she chose to do whatever may have caused her to be out of it, highly intoxicated or even killing her.

 

[BaileyC]

Bailey even though I respectfully disagree with your opinions about this case, I do know you have a right to express them like we all do here as long as we all abide by TOS.

I don't think you should have deleted your posts.
In every case there will always be differing opinions, and this case is no different.

Jmhoo

I think I did the right thing by deleting them. The rules say if another member posts something that's upsetting to you to report it and not make comments that could lead to more conflict. The two posts I deleted were made because I didn't appreciate a post that was made to me so I made the decision to delete the two unnecessary posts I had made when I was a bit ticked off.

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

I actually think that the three guys in their 20's thought that they were going to get lucky with this drunk girl who was willing to go with them to continue the party. SS was a young girl in her 20's. I'm not even sure the guys even knew that she had just given birth.

IMO, the two African American guys probably haven't been arrested because the oral sex with all of them was consensual. It probably shows on the phone video that it was consensual. It wouldn't surprise me if she willingly had oral sex with all of the guys. Yes, they all were drunk; however, I believe that she knew what she was doing at this point.

Afterwards, the two black guys may have decided to head home to get some sleep because they had to get to work the next day. DS assured them that he would take SS back to her car, knowing that he would then have SS alone to make further advances towards her.

I believe that SS thought that DS was then going to take her home. Instead, he tried to get her into his bedroom. When she rejected him and wanted to go back to her car, it made him mad. I think that I read that some said that he had a bad temper if you crossed him.

SS may have insisted on leaving, telling him that she was tired and that she had just given birth and that her mother needed the car. He probably figured that she was just lying to him. I believe that he raped her and then realized that she wasn't lying. For some reason, he felt that he had to murder her. Maybe, there was a lot of blood from the rape. In any case, he raped her, murdered her and disposed of her.

I just hope SS gets the full justice that she deserves. I feel really bad for SS. I think that she was a lost young lady that could have turned her life around but needed help. I believe that she had low self-esteem. She desperately needed something that she was lacking in her life. I think with counseling, training and guidance, she could have made something of herself. She was young and had her entire life ahead of her. It's sad that DS took this opportunity away from her.

JMO.