Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019

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  • #701
Thanks. So they were born around December 8th then, if that is the case.

Yeh they were born the beginning of December. They were around 5 wks when she disappeared.
 
  • #702
Maybe it's different if your speeding.

They can’t take your license until you’re guilty. The soonest they would’ve revoked her license would’ve been at the hearing she missed and that’s only if she had hired an attorney. Otherwise, she would’ve been appointed an atty at that hearing.
 
  • #703
Ok, so she went with two friends to The Other Bar, but left with strangers? Sorry, I am confused right now about this case.

It is confusing, and I think that may be part of the problem. SS's friend(s), that she arrived with at the bar, wanted to leave. SS told them to go ahead. She was seen talking to the guys in the "The Other Bar" and left with them. There were three of them. They located one, in GC, on Jan. 9th. He told them the names of the other two. They told LE that yes, she was with them, but she left on foot, from one of their homes, in GC. I'm guessing its' the one they towed the white car from.
 
  • #704
For many people, they see a sad story on the news, think about how sad it is, then they're relieved it's not them and move on. Most websleuthers don't think this way, and neither do the volunteer and professional searchers, orgs, etc
 
  • #705
They don’t take your license here until sentencing. She would’ve sat in jail, been released, her first court appearance would be the Monday after she went missing. They would’ve likely automatically entered a not guilty plea and gave her time to find an atty and work out a plea deal at her next court date. At that date- they would’ve probably revoked her license since it was aggravated and worked out her hours for classes and fines. She could’ve also been given 30 days to serve or the option of home incarceration.

None of the custody information is factual and probably shouldn’t be discussed per TOS on this forum.

Thanks for the info on the DUI legal process in Kentucky.

I didn’t post any custody information, as I have no idea what is going on and haven’t heard anything, thus the ask “did she have custody of them.”
 
  • #706
When were they born, then? I saw an article from MSM posted upthread that said her twins were just days old. That came from MSM.

EDITED to add link from a couple of pages ago:

[UPDATE] Family releases new images of missing mom and pics of newborn twins born just days before her disappearance

I had read they were born 12/2 or 12/5. I can’t remember for sure. I know they were 5 wks when she disappeared. I do think they spent some time in the hospital though. Most twin pregnancies don’t go full term and the babies usually spend some time in the hospital.
 
  • #707
No it’s all the same. My brother had one when he was around 22. If you google the statute a little more you’ll find some of the represcussions. It was discussed ad nauseam in the first few pages.

I must've skimmed over the speeding and dui parts. I know I was in a vehicle at one time and we were going so fast that the LEO said he "could" take the other individual's Ls right then and there. Fortunately the other individual had a clean slate and was a hometown boy... Could'a just been an empty threat, and no one wished to correct him.
 
  • #708
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Her mother let her use hers, and she lives with her mother.

See.... this is weird to me. Why would anyone loan her car to her daughter (who just recently got a DUI) to go out drinking. This sounds like serious enabling.
 
  • #709
Thanks for the info on the DUI legal process in Kentucky.

I didn’t post any custody information, as I have no idea what is going on and haven’t heard anything, thus the ask “did she have custody of them.”

The custody thing wasn’t directed so much at you. It was just a blanketed statement. There are a lot of people on other sites stating that she didn’t have custody but nobody knows for sure. It’s possible she didn’t. I think since LE aid pretty tight lipped, people are speculating on other forums and trying to fill in the missing pieces but a lot of it is getting passed around as truth.
 
  • #710
It is confusing, and I think that may be part of the problem. SS's friend(s), that she arrived with at the bar, wanted to leave. SS told them to go ahead. She was seen talking to the guys in the "The Other Bar" and left with them. There were three of them. They located one, in GC, on Jan. 9th. He told them the names of the other two. They told LE that yes, she was with them, but she left on foot, from one of their homes, in GC. I'm guessing its' the one they towed the white car from.
Thank you! I was trying to sort this out, wondering what happened to her friends that she went with originally. I mean, her Mom's car was at one of their houses, so you would think she would have wanted a ride back there to retrieve her Mom's car before she went home. I wonder if that is why they towed that car from that guy's house- maybe he was driving her to her friends and they had a fight along the way?
 
  • #711
See.... this is weird to me. Why would anyone loan her car to her daughter (who just recently got a DUI) to go out drinking. This sounds like serious enabling.

I think there’s definitely some enabling going on.
 
  • #712
See.... this is weird to me. Why would anyone loan her car to her daughter (who just recently got a DUI) to go out drinking. This sounds like serious enabling.
Maybe her Mom didn't know about her DUI. I know I would not allow my kids to drive my vehicle if they were arrested for DUI. I am sure her Mom needed her vehicle for work and errands, and it's probably her only vehicle.
 
  • #713
I think she had an aggravating factor, too. I'd guess her Ls got taken that day/night:

Some states such as Kentucky consider the level of the driver’s blood alcohol content (BAC) to be a potentially aggravating factor. Kentucky requires a higher penalty if the driver’s BAC was above .15 within two hours of operating the vehicle. Other aggravating factors are as follows:

Aggravating Circumstances (KRS 189A.010 [11]) Result in higher minimum jail time:

  • Over 30 mph over speed limit
  • Wrong way on limited access highway
  • Causes accident resulting in death or serious physical injury
  • Alcohol level of .15 or more within 2 hours after operating
  • Refusal to submit to testing
  • Transporting passengers under 12 years of age
Kentucky Aggravated DUI

You don't lose your license before you've even been arraigned though. She would have had to have been charged and found guilty, or plead guilty. A good friend of mine is going through an aggravated DUI charge now. She was arrested back in August or so and STILL hasn't been sentenced. And she took a plea deal. So she's still driving. This stuff takes a long time to finalize.
 
  • #714
They can’t take your license until you’re guilty. The soonest they would’ve revoked her license would’ve been at the hearing she missed and that’s only if she had hired an attorney. Otherwise, she would’ve been appointed an atty at that hearing.

I was in court recently to drive a friend home. He had to surrender his license before trial! In Fayette county. It was his first offense. His ppwk shows 45 day minimum suspension. He had no atty and isn’t contesting the charge. Basically, an attys can’t help. Moo. The state transportation dept. determines the penalty.
 
  • #715
I must've skimmed over the speeding and dui parts. I know I was in a vehicle at one time and we were going so fast that the LEO said he "could" take the other individual's Ls right then and there. Fortunately the other individual had a clean slate and was a hometown boy... Could'a just been an empty threat, and no one wished to correct him.

That would’ve been terrifying lol. I had a similar thing happen to me when I was younger. The guy I was with blew right over the legal limit. I wasn’t aware that he had been drinking. Surprisingly, he let us go since I hadn’t been drinking and was able to drive him home.
 
  • #716
You don't lose your license before you've even been arraigned though. She would have had to have been charged and found guilty, or plead guilty. A good friend of mine is going through an aggravated DUI charge now. She was arrested back in August or so and STILL hasn't been sentenced. And she took a plea deal. So she's still driving. This stuff takes a long time to finalize.

May I ask her county? I know Bourbon, Scott & Fayette ask for license at arraignment/first court appearance.
 
  • #717
See.... this is weird to me. Why would anyone loan her car to her daughter (who just recently got a DUI) to go out drinking. This sounds like serious enabling.

This, and b/c I feel there will be, in the end, some sort of hard drugs involved, and it's like, she's only 22 and seemed to be floundering already. Ya can't control anyone's actions, when they are over 18, but, you can tell them, No.
 
  • #718
I was in court recently to drive a friend home. He had to surrender his license before trial! In Fayette county. It was his first offense. His ppwk shows 45 day minimum suspension. He had no atty and isn’t contesting the charge. Basically, an attys can’t help. Moo. The state transportation dept. determines the penalty.

Weird. I’ve never known any court to take a license before sentencing...unless they’re behind on child support lol which is the strangest repercussion for flagrant non support
 
  • #719
I was in court recently to drive a friend home. He had to surrender his license before trial! In Fayette county. It was his first offense. His ppwk shows 45 day minimum suspension. He had no atty and isn’t contesting the charge. Basically, an attys can’t help. Moo. The state transportation dept. determines the penalty.

If he isn't contesting then that's filing a plea. He's pleading no contest. The forty five license suspension is part of the sentencing.
 
  • #720
May I ask her county? I know Bourbon, Scott & Fayette ask for license at arraignment/first court appearance.

Fayette. She plead not guilty.
 
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