KY KY - Somerset, WhtMale 25-35, UP80, in river’s rural whitewater, dental x-rays, Jul’98

[MadMcGoo]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP80
Male, White / Caucasian
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Date Body Found: July 9, 1998
Location Found: Somerset, Pulaski County, Kentucky
Remains: Not recognizable - Partial remains with soft tissues
Estimated Age: Adult - Pre 40; 25-35
Estimated Year of Death: 1998
Estimated PMI: Months
Estimated Height: 5' 8"(68 inches)
Weight/Hair & Eye Color: Unknown

Clothing: Wrangler jeans, Fruit of the Loom briefs (size small 30-32), and light tan/navy blue Oak Harbor hiking boots (size 9EE)

Circumstances of Discovery: The victim was found in a rural white-water section of the river.

Kentucky Medical Examiner’s Office
Amy Burrows-Beckham (502) 489-5209
Regional Program Specialist
Amy Jenkinson (817) 304-8873
Agency Case Number: FA-1998-40
NCIC Case Number: U138350530

Dentals: Available. X-rays are available. Filling or crown present. Recent extraction of teeth #12, 31, and 32.
Fingerprints: Not available
DNA: Available with FBI NMPDD

Sources
NamUs
The Doe Network

 

[MadMcGoo]

Missing Person Exclusions:
MP3229 William Crain 11/21/1994 Warren KY
MP8005 Lloyd McKinney 04/10/1998 Lewis KY
——— William Harmon -- -- KY
——— Garrie Davis -- -- VA
——— Jeffery Quick -- -- VA
MP1144 Douglas Kirk 08/03/1995 White AR

 

[GJKJR]

July 11, 1998 - The Courier-Journal, Louisville, Kentucky. Specifies the river in which decedent was discovered (Rockcastle River, Pulaski Cty., KY) and the approximate time of discovery (9 p.m. July 9, 1998, or so).

 

[carbuff]

One possibility: This person could be someone who is known to have been in a river accident but not listed as a missing person because they're presumed drowned and body not recovered.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Could this be Ronald Wayne Lucas?

Missing from Little Shepherd Trail (near Harlan & Letcher County line) since July 1994. He was looking for ginseng with a friend when they got separated. His friend returned from the trail and Ronald did not. He was 29 years old at the time; 5’8”-5’10”, 170 lbs., blond hair and green eyes. He had several tattoos though, which aren’t reported on the UID. The PMI is off by a few years also...

 

[MadMcGoo]

Charles “Chuck” Wayne Harris
[no photo]
- Eadsville, Kentucky Somerset, Kentucky
- January 1995 July 1998; PMI months
- 35 years old 25-35
- 5’9” 5’8”
- 150 lbs. unknown
- Brown hair & eyes unknown
- “Father last saw Charles aka Chuck on 1-21-95 at approx 6:30pm. The vehicle Chuck was driving was found abandoned in the Eadsville community on Jan 26, 1995. The Wayne County Rescue Squad searched the area on Jan. 29, 1995 with nothing found.”

The timeframe would probably be cutting it too close. I can’t figure out how to post links to map locations, but the two area are very close to one another, and connected by the same waterway(s)...

 

[carbuff]

Map: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

I'm not sure why you say the timeframe is close? The UID was found three years later?

 

[MadMcGoo]

Map: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

I'm not sure why you say the timeframe is close? The UID was found three years later?

Thank you for the map! I meant that with the UID’s estimated PMI (months), the 3 year time difference may be pushing it a bit. I’m not sure how long he could have been out there. The locations are just so close.

 

[carbuff]

Thank you for the map! I meant that with the UID’s estimated PMI (months), the 3 year time difference may be pushing it a bit. I’m not sure how long he could have been out there. The locations are just so close.

Ah, got you. When you said "pushing it" I translated to "timeline too short," which of course isn't what you meant

We have had PMIs be drastically off before. I wouldn't rule it out based just on that.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Possible Matches:

1. Loyd M. McKinney
2. Terry Turner

(Side note: NamUs has shown 6 exclusions up until recently. There are only 5 listed; Douglas Kirk is no longer on the list...not sure what that might mean)

 

[carbuff]

Possible Matches:

1. Loyd M. McKinney
2. Terry Turner

(Side note: NamUs has shown 6 exclusions up until recently. There are only 5 listed; Douglas Kirk is no longer on the list...not sure what that might mean)

I'm not sure. On Kirk's page, this guy (UP80) is still listed as an exclusion: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[MadMcGoo]

Refreshing the thread...

 

[Melt71]

Five ruleouts on this case currently in Namus

 

[Melt71]

Namus was updated today. No new ruleouts.