Well, maybe not the whole interview. Should have said a longer clip.Actually I've just seen the whole interview has been released
I agree. This is one of the most brutal, senseless, horrible cases ever.Been following this thread again last few days.
I said in July the eventual trial details would be horrific and it hasn't disappointed. This guy is the pure definition of evil.
Was also thinking reading through some of the details in the run up and I was thinking this is clear example of someone pretty much influenced in the Andrew Tate era and BBC News at Ten mentioned he watched one of his videos in the days leading up to the triple murder...
Was also taking his niece around the garden centre on the morning of the murder.
Horrible in the last hour of her life Louise was working and just yards away blissfully unaware her Mother was being murdered in their own home and then she walked back in. Then the same a few hours later for Hannah Hunt.
Awful case.
i found that quite disturbing and didnt know it was his niece. imagine going out with your family knowing full well what you planned for later. sickening. he does sound like the type to like tate as well, not done very well in life, not very attractive rejected by a woman etc. the interviewer is right as well its just "poor me poor me poor me" in his note and you can hear his voice as well, no comment. little weasel.Been following this thread again last few days.
I said in July the eventual trial details would be horrific and it hasn't disappointed. This guy is the pure definition of evil.
Was also thinking reading through some of the details in the run up and I was thinking this is clear example of someone pretty much influenced in the Andrew Tate era and BBC News at Ten mentioned he watched one of his videos in the days leading up to the triple murder...
Was also taking his niece around the garden centre on the morning of the murder.
Horrible in the last hour of her life Louise was working and just yards away blissfully unaware her Mother was being murdered in their own home and then she walked back in. Then the same a few hours later for Hannah Hunt.
Awful case.
Horrible. When it says violent misogyny, does he actually promote violence to women?AHHHH there is a Tate connection that wasn't reported in the trial. not really surprised tbh, disgusted but not surprised.
"Clifford had been searching YouTube for Tate's podcast the day before the murders and is believed to have watched up to 10 of the influencer's videos.
One of Louise Hunt's friends had previously asked why he was watching one of Tate's videos involving drugged animals and he said: "Because it's funny," it was said during legal argument before the trial.
Prosecutors argued the "violent misogyny promoted by Tate" was the same kind that "fuelled both the murders" and the rape" committed by Clifford."
eta
"Alison Morgan KC said his interest in the "widely known misogynist" helped to explain why he became so "incandescent with rage" after she ended the relationship."
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Kyle Clifford: Violent misogyny of kind promoted by Andrew Tate 'fuelled rape and triple murder', prosecution says
The former soldier, 26, planned the attack against Louise Hunt and her family members after she broke up with him 13 days earlier.news.sky.com
depends on what you mean by it i think, its really not difficult to radicalise or inflame people towards such mindsets in the same way its not difficult to radicalise disenfranchised religious young men. its also true that insecurity in people is a known problem in abusive relationships as im almost certain it was with kyle, you hear about this kind of stuff in the news all the time. Tate preaches a particularly externally driven way of being which has a strong correlation with narcissism. flashy cars, status symbols, "if you can, do" kind of mindset, ego and lots of it. not the type you want your daughter with at all. imo.Horrible. When it says violent misogyny, does he actually promote violence to women?
Thanksdepends on what you mean by it i think, its really not difficult to radicalise or inflame people towards such mindsets in the same way its not difficult to radicalise disenfranchised religious young men. its also true that insecurity in people is a known problem in abusive relationships as im almost certain it was with kyle, you hear about this kind of stuff in the news all the time. Tate preaches a particularly externally driven way of being which has a strong correlation with narcissism. flashy cars, status symbols, "if you can, do" kind of mindset, ego and lots of it. not the type you want your daughter with at all. imo.
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Court 1 - sitting at 10:30 am |
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T20247013 | CLIFFORD Kyle | CLONM | CPS |
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It's got to be a WLO IMOanyne wanna gamble on wlo or not? i'm certain its a safe bet.
u thnk they will take into account "risk posed" ? thats the dodgy bit imo. the defence may argue hes minimum threat in the future as he had no really questionable history.It's got to be a WLO IMO
That and the guilty plea to most of the charges posed are the mitigating factors. But the offending in this case is so severe that I can't see any other option. Significant premeditation and multiple victims are very serious culpability factors that push this well into WLO territory. Then there's the aggravating factors which are just atrocious.u thnk they will take into account "risk posed" ? thats the dodgy bit imo. the defence may argue hes minimum threat in the future as he had no really questionable history.