Kyron Horman's general discussion thread - 2015/2016

[rosesfromangels]

If this is old news please delete my post: http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local...n-hired-as-mental-health-specialist/22998217/

Dear God in Heaven! Why don't they hire Charlie Manson on a work release program too?! MOO!!!!
Truly incredulous:notgood:

 

[wendiesan]

If DDS has immunity, why on earth isn't she speaking up? What is this strange devotion she has to TMH? What is the root of that inexplicable devotion?

Exactly. What is making her feel so vulnerable that she can't speak out? Could it be that she was somehow involved in the disappearance? If TMH goes down, will she drag DDS with her?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If this is old news please delete my post: http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local...n-hired-as-mental-health-specialist/22998217/

OMG ... seriously a "mental health specialist" ?

As posted above, could be just a "fancy title" ...

But still, would you want TH working for your company, and would you want to be one of her co-workers ?

:gaah:

 

[Knox]

Saw the news. I figured that was partially the reason for the name change ...

"The safety and wellbeing of our clients is paramount," said the statement from Karen Rutledge, Shangri-La's chief executive. "Terri was hired because she has skills and training that enable her to provide excellent support in this critical area of need."

The company said it did not broadly disclose Horman's personal history to other employees or stakeholders when she was hired. Horman approved the disclosure of Friday's statement after the company was contacted by The Oregonian/OregonLive, which learned of her employment through a fellow employee.

"In hiring Terri, we not only followed all applicable laws, statutes and administrative rules, but we also followed our own values and principles. Shangri-La works to promote a culture of acceptance, trust and compassion. We believe our actions reflect these deeply held beliefs, " said Rutledge.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/02/terri_horman_hired_as_mental_h.html

Kyron's safety and well being were also paramount.
Terri betrayed his trust, and to this day shows no compassion whatsoever.
Now she works at a place called Shangri-La? Oh the irony ...

Job Description-
https://rew11.ultipro.com/SHA1006/JobBoard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*BEB50B58BF44F06E

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If this is old news please delete my post: http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local...n-hired-as-mental-health-specialist/22998217/

From the link above:

"Terri Moulton Horman applied for a Mental Health Support Specialist position at Shangri-La in November, 2014," said spokeswoman Karen Rutledge. ..."

So ...

- Applied November 2014

- Article dated February 6, 2015

I wonder when she was hired ?

I wonder IF she changed her appearance ?

I wonder a lot of things ...

:moo:

 

[rosesfromangels]

Wait a second....does she *not* have visitation rights with her daughter? How on earth can someone who the court doesn't permit to see her daughter be permitted to work with vulnerable individuals? How can this be permissible? Sounds like a law suite in the making, but I'll leave that to our legal professionals to dwell on....

SMH!!!!
:gaah:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Wait a second....does she *not* have visitation rights with her daughter? How on earth can someone who the court doesn't permit to see her daughter be permitted to work with vulnerable individuals? How can this be permissible? Sounds like a law suite in the making, but I'll leave that to our legal professionals to dwell on....

SMH!!!!
:gaah:

:seeya: Good points !

And I am still SMDH !

 

[Kimster]

Wait a second....does she *not* have visitation rights with her daughter? How on earth can someone who the court doesn't permit to see her daughter be permitted to work with vulnerable individuals? How can this be permissible? Sounds like a law suite in the making, but I'll leave that to our legal professionals to dwell on....

SMH!!!!
:gaah:

Exactly what the locals are saying. Believe me, this is unsettling to everyone in the area that I know who are discussing TH coming to Eugene. :notgood:

 

[MissJ]

I know this is not a popular opinion but I don't think DDS knows anything but I think there is someone out there who does. JMO.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I know this is not a popular opinion but I don't think DDS knows anything but I think there is someone out there who does. JMO.

And speaking of DDS, why doesn't TMH go plant shrubs with DDS instead of working with vulnerable patients?!!?
I am truly outraged about this.

:rage:

 

[rosesfromangels]

I know this is not a popular opinion but I don't think DDS knows anything but I think there is someone out there who does. JMO.

MissJ, then how do we explain DDS bolting from her landscaping job that morning and having 3 hours unaccounted for? (I think it was three hours, but I can stand corrected). She left her job at the same time Kyron went missing. Sorry to disagree with you since you always add such great thoughts, but she is smack dab in the spotlight of collusion in my books.

 

[Kimster]

I've actually been to the place where DDS was working that day, as well as the school, Sauvie Island, Fred Meyer, and all places around there. My brother used to live down the road from the Fred Meyer. They are very close together and takes no time to get from one place to another. Just a reminder for those unfamiliar with the area.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I've actually been to the place where DDS was working that day, as well as the school, Sauvie Island, Fred Meyer, and all places around there. My brother used to live down the road from the Fred Meyer. They are very close together and takes no time to get from one place to another. Just a reminder for those unfamiliar with the area.

I think it is incredibly important to keep the redheaded "twins" center stage with the spotlight on them. I am heartened to hear the good people of Eugene are understandably concerned as well. My opinion only, the thumb your nose Teflon attitude will vanish quickly once TMH is carefully ensconced in her permanent home. :jail: And that day *is* coming. If my theory is right that she paid some ex-con gym rat acquaintance to make our dear Kyron "go away", that knowledge will ultimately come forward. People talk, especially for $$$.

As always, this is just *opinion* and *speculation only*

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I know this is not a popular opinion but I don't think DDS knows anything but I think there is someone out there who does. JMO.

BBM: Respectfully disagree ... DDS pled the "5th" numerous times in her deposition, and the reason a person pleads the 5th is against self-incrimination.

If DDS had nothing to hide, then why didn't she answer the questions truthfully?

DDS did not plead the 5th to help her BFF TH: DDS pled the 5th because she had something to hide.

:moo:

 

[rosesfromangels]

So what does a prosecutor typically do when they have a witness that keeps pleading the fifth (basically raising their hand saying they had some involvement in the crime?) I assume they are a witness vs. a defendant because either (a) they are a secondary player (b) they can support the prosecutor's case by serving as a witness (c) there isn't enough evidence to charge them?

Anyone know how this typically works?

 

[MissJ]

MissJ, then how do we explain DDS bolting from her landscaping job that morning and having 3 hours unaccounted for? (I think it was three hours, but I can stand corrected). She left her job at the same time Kyron went missing. Sorry to disagree with you since you always add such great thoughts, but she is smack dab in the spotlight of collusion in my books.

You could be right..I don't rule anything out in this case. It is very puzzling. I suppose I can't for the life of me understand what would motivate another woman to help kill or dispose (shudder) of the body of a child she had no reason (no one had a reason) to be involved with in the first place. How could she dislike a child this much?
He was a little boy. TMH was his step mother...step parents are apparently notorious in murdering their step children. Stats prove it. DDS father was in law enforcement. She should have known people don't get by with this carp. Maybe you are right. I just hope we see this case resolved.

 

[MissJ]

I think it is incredibly important to keep the redheaded "twins" center stage with the spotlight on them. I am heartened to hear the good people of Eugene are understandably concerned as well. My opinion only, the thumb your nose Teflon attitude will vanish quickly once TMH is carefully ensconced in her permanent home. :jail: And that day *is* coming. If my theory is right that she paid some ex-con gym rat acquaintance to make our dear Kyron "go away", that knowledge will ultimately come forward. People talk, especially for $$$.

As always, this is just *opinion* and *speculation only*

I still think the person you speak of was male. JMO.

 

[blefuscu]

Thinking of you little buddy. Wish you were safe at home with your mamma x

 

[Tugela]

I know this is an old post but when I see Kyron's thread pop up I tend do go back to where I left off. Anyone who has been on websleuths for any length of time should understand that the feelings of investigators are not evident solely by an arrest.

In various cases we have seen that investigators were certain but had to wait until a break before they could arrest.

I would be curious to know what you think about the Sky Metalwala case. Do you believe investigators in that case aren't certain as to what happened?

Or essentially as to what happened to Ayla Reynolds and who did it? Susan Powell? Dylan Redwine? Etc.?



Nerves or medications could sometimes affect the results. That's why they tend to be inadmissible. But the totality of the circumstances is what must be examined to understand the significance of lie detector test results. Like their behavior surrounding taking it.

Here is an example of a case where investigators were "certain" ...... and also dead wrong!

That is why evidence should be used, not suspicion of the "usual suspects" or "gut feelings". It is very easy for investigators to get tunnel vision and go after the wrong person, and once they have done that they convince themselves no matter what, that their suspect is the right one.

When you use emotions rather than logic to sway your thinking, you run the risk of perpetrating a miscarriage of justice, which IMO is far worse than the crime itself. You need to be sure and have solid evidence to back that up before you send someone to a living hell.

 

[tribalmama]

Glad you finally chimed in!!

What do you mean by "I believe that there are pieces of information that people who are incidental to this have not shared"?

You can't tell us you know some of her friends, without sharing what they think happened to Kyron : )

I am sorry if it sounded like I had information that would close the case. It won't. There are people who have not told the entire truth when questioned, people who heard her make comments about Kyron being an inconvenience to her as she was leaving child care. I am just a third-party to all this, with people telling me that they "heard things" the they did not tell the police, and it is possible that the people who talked with me were not entirely telling the truth. It is dismaying to me that people will lie, whether it is for the friendship or for bragging or to protect themselves.

A little more clear?
Thanks for keeping Kyron in your hearts.