LA ‘Blue Lives Matter bill’ Goes Into Effect Today in Louisiana

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Not in Louisiana, but the bill in Congress is the "Blue Lives Matter Act of 2016."

Like I said - it's a nickname. You won't find any language whatsoever in the Title or content of the Bill that says 'blue lives matter'.
 
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"There is a concerted effort across the country, there's a small group of people that want to terrorize our policemen,” said Representative Lance Harris. “You read about it every day in the paper or on social media."

Representative Harris never thought that when he authored the blue lives matter law there would be brutal attacks on police officers just a couple of weeks before it went into effect.

With a 91-0 vote in the House and a 33-3 vote in the Senate, the law passed through state legislature with ease.

http://www.kalb.com/content/news/Bl...-effect-in-Louisiana-on-Monday-388837082.html
 
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<modsnip> where is the taxpayer money to make changes for the better for LE which will make things better for everyone? When they die, it can be called a hate crime. Great. How about if we put money into reforms that will keep LE alive?
 
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What I mean is that where is the taxpayer money to make changes for the better for LE which will make things better for everyone? When they die, it can be called a hate crime. Great. How about if we put money into reforms that will keep LE alive?



Some of it went here, just i billion of that would have been helpful. jmo idk

US spends $17 billion to arm struggling Afghan armed forces as Taliban surges


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ng-afghan-armed-forces-as-taliban-surges.html
 
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BLM made a statement they do not support what is being done with the BBQ. It really made me sad because I was so proud of our residence and LE.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Na...ot-support-First-Step-Barbecue-387989542.html

It's understandable that not everyone feels like having Kumbaya moments, yet. It will take a lot more than lip service on the part of LE for them to begin to earn back their trust and respect. I do so much applaud the efforts of the BBQ. It won't be easy and it will take a long time, but I believe it can improve.
 
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It's more than just a "claim" and I've posted many examples throughout many threads. How many articles, quotes, and images will it take to convince you?

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https://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/richmond-police-chief-blacklivesmatter.jpg

No i don't want to see more then a claim, which by the way you made in saying that blm and LE were working together. I want a link that blm and Le are working together, as you so stated. Not pictures or Le holding positive. TIA Recent articles of what you stated.
 
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It's understandable that not everyone feels like having Kumbaya moments, yet. It will take a lot more than lip service on the part of LE for them to begin to earn back their trust and respect. I do so much applaud the efforts of the BBQ. It won't be easy and it will take a long time, but I believe it can improve.

You may wish to read the link I posted for a different view.
 
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The bill makes it a hate crime to intentionally attack a police officer just because of their uniform. It also applies to firefighters and members of EMS.

"This bill doesn't only cover violent crime. It covers arson, vandalism, damage to property, terrorizing," Harris said. "So I think it gives the district attorneys another tool in their tool box to discourage some of this behavior."

The bill increases jail time and penalties for those who choose their victim because of their perceived profession if it is a first responder.

http://www.kplctv.com/story/3206727...s-matter-bill?clienttype=generic&sf27162282=1

It covers throwing bricks, bottles and other objects. People will now think twice about making threats against LE and their families. Good!
 
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The bill makes it a hate crime to intentionally attack a police officer just because of their uniform. It also applies to firefighters and members of EMS.

"This bill doesn't only cover violent crime. It covers arson, vandalism, damage to property, terrorizing," Harris said. "So I think it gives the district attorneys another tool in their tool box to discourage some of this behavior."

The bill increases jail time and penalties for those who choose their victim because of their perceived profession if it is a first responder.

http://www.kplctv.com/story/3206727...s-matter-bill?clienttype=generic&sf27162282=1

It covers throwing bricks, bottles and other objects. People will now think twice about making threats against LE and their families. Good!

That is good, Will students and people who go wild after a sporting event be arrested as well?

I don't want us to become like the Chinese. Think Tiananmen square. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989

And let us never forget Kent State.
 
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Wow-- such misdirection! Kent State? (My undergrad alma mater) Tiannanmen Square? No. Not even remotely comparable situations.

What this law means is that if a criminal plots to ambush a LEO or first responder by baiting a 911 trap, or executes an officer who is just eating a sandwich in their squad car, then the penalties are substantially increased due to premeditated INTENT to target LEOs and first responders. This has nothing at all to do with demonstrations in Communist countries, or the Kent State demonstrations against the Viet Nam war in 1970. They are not equivalent at all, lol! Good grief.

Here is the text of the bill passed and signed into law in Louisiana, to get back on a semblance of topic. It's only 2 pages long. I don't begin to understand how any reasonable person possibly disagree with in this bill! Boggles the mind that ANY person would be opposed to this. (Bills and laws are not subject to copyright, so I'll paste the whole short thing.)

***And remember, this bill was passed BEFORE the ambush murders of the police officers in Baton Rouge.***

https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1007362

2016 Regular Session
HOUSE BILL NO. 953
BY REPRESENTATIVE LANCE HARRIS

1 AN ACT
2 To amend and reenact R.S. 14:107.2(A) and to enact R.S. 14:107.2(E), relative to hate
3 crimes; to provide for the elements of the crime; to provide for definitions; and to
4 provide for related matters.
5 Be it enacted by the Legislature of Louisiana:
6 Section 1. R.S. 14:107.2(A) is hereby amended and reenacted and R.S. 14:107.2(E)
7 is hereby enacted to read as follows:
8 §107.2. Hate crimes
9 A. It shall be unlawful for any person to select the victim of the following
10 offenses against person and property because of actual or perceived race, age,
11 gender, religion, color, creed, disability, sexual orientation, national origin, or
12 ancestry of that person or the owner or occupant of that property or because of actual
13 or perceived membership or service in, or employment with, an organization, or
14 because of actual or perceived employment as a law enforcement officer, firefighter,
15 or emergency medical services personnel: first or second degree murder;
16 manslaughter; battery; aggravated battery; second degree battery; aggravated assault
17 with a firearm; terrorizing; mingling harmful substances; simple or third degree rape,
18 forcible or second degree rape, or aggravated or first degree rape; sexual battery,
19 second degree sexual battery; oral sexual battery; carnal knowledge of a juvenile;
20 indecent behavior with juveniles; molestation of a juvenile or a person with a
21 physical or mental disability; simple, second degree, or aggravated kidnapping;
22 simple or aggravated arson; communicating of false information of planned arson;
23 simple or aggravated criminal damage to property; contamination of water supplies;
24 simple or aggravated burglary; criminal trespass; simple, first degree, or armed

Page 1 of 2

CODING: Words in struck through type are deletions from existing law; words underscored
are additions.

HB NO. 953 ENROLLED
1 robbery; purse snatching; extortion; theft; desecration of graves; institutional
2 vandalism; or assault by drive-by shooting.
3 * * *
4 E. As used in this Section:
5 (1) "Emergency medical services personnel" shall have the same meaning
6 ascribed to it by R.S. 40:1075.3.
7 (2) "Firefighter" means any firefighter regularly employed by a fire
8 department of any municipality, parish, or fire protection district of the state of
9 Louisiana.
10 (3) "Law enforcement officer" means any active or retired city, parish, or
11 state law enforcement officer, peace officer, sheriff, deputy sheriff, probation or
12 parole officer, marshal, deputy, wildlife enforcement agent, state correctional officer,
13 or commissioned agent of the Department of Public Safety and Corrections, as well
14 as any federal law enforcement officer or employee, whose permanent duties include
15 making arrests, performing search and seizures, execution of criminal arrest
16 warrants, execution of civil seizure warrants, any civil functions performed by
17 sheriffs or deputy sheriffs, enforcement of penal or traffic laws, or the care, custody,
18 control, or supervision of inmates.
 
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We do hold police responsible for all use of their weapons. The bare, unvarnished truth is that virtually all of the police involved shootings are justifiable uses of force due to the criminal actions of the perpetrator (not "victim") that they shot.

Sometimes, as in the Jamar Clark and Michael Brown cases, it takes months of investigation to prove, with evidence, that the person who was shot and killed was actively engaged in an attack against the officer--a criminal trying to take his gun-- NOT an innocent "victim", etc. That makes their actions criminal, for which they would have been tried and convicted for multiple felonies. Instead, the unfortunate criminal chose to attack a LEO, and ended up getting themself shot and killed, justifiably so.

There is a certain level of police shootings that are to be expected and justified-- that's why they are peace officers with guns, because they are charged with keeping the peace and apprehending criminals and bad people. Just like the military. (And yes, I believe LEO's should be more militarized, not less, especially in inner city riot situations.) So, it's very unrealistic to expect officer shootings to be "zero". Civilians ambushing police officers should ALWAYS BE ZERO. The 2 issues are not equivalent, or even slightly comparable. That is the logical fallacy and intellectual dishonesty that Black Lives Matter supporters engage in, when they loudly and repeatedly advocate for killing police officers as "revenge".

"Unarmed" is a new liberal, progressive ephemism repeated over and over by MSM that tries to communicate "not dangerous", which has been proven to be far from the truth in most situations. "Unarmed" doesn't mean not dangerous, doesn't mean the perpetrator wasn't trying to actively take an officer's weapon, or not engaged in criminal behavior. The overwhelming majority of people shot by LEOs (black, white, brown, green, blue, purple, etc) are CRIMINAL SUSPECTS actively engaged in CRIMINAL behavior by their own choice, and RESISTING arrest. There is not an epidemic of LEOs shooting law abiding, peaceful, cooperative black men, despite what the liberal media screams from their sensationalized headlines.

There IS, however, a 78% increase in ambush shootings of LEOs in the first 6 months of this year. That is a very objective statistic. Lots of good, hard, objective statistics in this article.

The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund just released preliminary data showing that 32 officers were shot to death between Jan. 1 and July 20, compared with 18 in that period last year. Of the officers fatally shot this year, 14 were ambushed, as in Dallas and Baton Rouge.

That 78 percent year-to-year increase strongly points to "a growing disrespect for the rule of law in our nation," said Craig W. Floyd, president of the nonprofit officers memorial fund.
Believe whatever conspiracy theory makes you happy, but these are the exceptions. Overwhelmingly, police officers follow departmental rules &#8212; and the law &#8212; in deciding whether to use force.

Some cases are close calls. Recent deaths-by-police of Alton Spencer in Baton Rouge and Philando Castile in suburban St. Paul, Minn., might not appear justified from watching amateur video, but maybe you should give it a little time. You might even be proved right.

What I doubt you will find even in these cases are police officers who planned the deaths of these civilians, lying in wait and then executing them. Police do kill civilians when they must, often to protect you or me. They seldom shoot into a crowd of protesters on a downtown street; almost never sneak up and shoot civilians in the head; and rarely use 911 calls to draw them into vulnerable positions so as to murder them.

Use "never" if you prefer.

To extrapolate from Brown's point, show me the shootings of police officers that have anything resembling a moral or legal justification. Because if officers are targeted simply for wearing a uniform and doing a necessary job, that might help us decide what really matters.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/l...officers-shooting-vs.-officers-being-shot.ece
 
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From: The Marshall Project as referenced in and linked to in The Dallas News opinion piece linked to above:

Are Cop-Killings on the Rise?
Only if you look at very limited data.


https://www.themarshallproject.org/2016/07/27/are-cop-killings-on-the-rise#.KR79ib6KT

“It will not be clear for several years whether the higher numbers for the first half of 2016 represent a trend. The number of law enforcement officers killed while on duty has fluctuated significantly by year, and percentages can look outsized because the total numbers are so small when set against the total number of sworn officers in the U.S. — 900,000, according to the memorial fund.

The numbers compiled by the memorial fund, as well as by a similar website, the Officer Down Memorial Page, are the most recent available. They are from private groups rather than the federal government. The FBI does track how many law enforcement officers are killed “feloniously” each year, but does not release figures in real time; the official government numbers for 2015 have not come out yet (preliminary statistics were published in May), and the counts for this year won't come out until 2017.”​
 
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