LA - Ahlittia North, 6, abducted & murdered, Harvey, 13 July 2013

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Praying this sweet girl is found soon!
 
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JPSO Col. Fortunato was just on TV. He said 36 hours into the investigation, and the police have not received even one tip. None.

LE confirmed the family was home by 11 pm Friday night.



I'd think a 6-year-old could, and would, open the door for someone she knew.

But, what are the chances that an adult would even risk coming to the family's apartment in the middle of the night--with two adults in the home--manage to get the child's attention from outside of a bolted and locked door, and convince the child to unlock the door, take the time to retrieve her blanket, toothbrush, and tube of toothpaste, and whisk the child away without leaving one trace of evidence or elicit even one sighting of the child? I would like to know if the apartment complex has any surveillance cameras. If there are cameras, you would think something out of the ordinary would have been recorded in regards to Ahlitta's disappearance. JMOO.
 
  • #125
This is just my opinion based on years of working with kids and families....
I believe it is possible there was no toothbrush. I have worked with many families over the years and some kids just don't have a toothbrush. It's possible, especially since she was living with gma just a month ago, that she didn't have one. Someone may have said it was missing because they didnt want to say she doesnt have one. Not passing any judgement here, just proposing a possibility based on my experience.

(One kiddo I worked with we told he had to work on his hygiene- it was so bad- especially his teeth! We couldn't understand it because his twin brother didn't have the same issue. Come to find out four people in the family were all sharing the same toothbrush. The kid who didn't brush his teeth just couldn't bear to share!)
 
  • #126
But, what are the chances that an adult would even risk coming to the family's apartment in the middle of the night--with two adults in the home--manage to get the child's attention from outside of a bolted and locked door, and convince the child to unlock the door, take the time to retrieve her blanket, toothbrush, and tube of toothpaste, and whisk the child away without leaving one trace of evidence or elicit even one sighting of the child? I would like to know if the apartment complex has any surveillance cameras. If there are cameras, you would think something out of the ordinary would have been recorded in regards to Ahlitta's disappearance. JMOO.

If someone did take her from home it could have been an attempted burglary (someone just checking peoples doors) which alerted Ahlitta.
Though, the idea (which was posted in the thread) that she left on her own accord in the morning, sounds feasible.

Has it been published where abouts her grandmother lives?
Is it in walking distance of Ahlitta's home?
Maybe Ahlitta was on her way to her grandmothers.

What plans did the family have for the next day - where they going to go to grandma's house?
Does she go to kindergarten or school in the area?

@Bessie - thanks for the maps and the perb list in the area. Appreciated.
 
  • #127
Or someone happened by whom she knew, and who lured her out with a lie about going to visit someone. "Aunt Mary told me to come pick you up so you can spend the weekend by her house. Shhh! Don't wake your mama and stepdaddy. We'll call them later." And the little girl quietly gathered what she'd need for a weekend visit. *shrug*

I don't know what happened, but I think it's safe to say if Ahlitta was abducted, the perp isn't a random stranger.

These woods are so scary.
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Good thinking. I was thinking what if she packed up her stuff that morning and thought when mom gets up , I'll tell her I'm all ready to go to grannys and my bag's on the porch waiting?
 
  • #128

From above link:

"Lydia Hill, who identified herself as the sister of the girl’s stepfather, said that she had spoken with the missing girl’s mother early Saturday morning.

“She called me and she said Ahlitta was missing and I said, ‘Did you look under the stairs where she likes to hide?’” Hill said.

Hill said that she came over and helped the family look through the house and in the street before they called police.

Michael Carter Jr., who lives on a nearby block and was helping hand out Ahlitta fliers on Saturday, characterized the neighborhood as extremely dangerous.

“There is lots of crime and plenty of killings, every day there is violence,” Carter said, adding that he frequently receives notices about sex offenders living in the area.
"


Much more at link

(BBM because I find these parts interesting)
 
  • #129
my 2 1/2 yr old can easily unlock our doors, deadbolt included.

this just feels weird... maybe i missed it, when was she last seen by someone other than mom?
 
  • #130
who else would have a key to the place? landlord? managers?

In Sara Foxwell's (11 yr. old) case, who was also missing from her bedroom at night along with her toothbrush, she lived with her Aunt. It was the Aunt's ex-boyfriend who knew where the key was hidden. This was a horrible case in 2010 near Ocean City, Md.
 
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Do we know if there are any other children in the house?
 
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Was there a back pack or purse missing? How was the items carried out? My thinking is when my daughter was little she would play with purses and put random things in there and carry around the house to play "mommy". Could she have done this and very innocently decided to go shopping " like mommy" and went outside only to be discovered by one of the RSO in the area. I hate to always see that people want to jump on the parents being involved so I am being positive on this one and crossing my fingers that they are being truthful in what is going on.
 
  • #133
Was a fun or a/c unit running, it would be easy not to hear anything with either running. So is 9 am still the time they awake and find her missing? What if she was up and heard a knock, turns out it is someone the family knows and they realize theopportunity is there, since parents are still asleep. I think more early morning... Would she have stepped outside for any reason....
The tooth brush, she could of easily put that somewhere else, kids do the strangest things.
 
  • #134
Or someone happened by whom she knew, and who lured her out with a lie about going to visit someone. "Aunt Mary told me to come pick you up so you can spend the weekend by her house. Shhh! Don't wake your mama and stepdaddy. We'll call them later." And the little girl quietly gathered what she'd need for a weekend visit. *shrug*

I don't know what happened, but I think it's safe to say if Ahlitta was abducted, the perp isn't a random stranger.

These woods are so scary.
b443.jpg

what"s even scarier is that there is a canal just behind those woods
 
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JPSO Col. Fortunato was just on TV. He said 36 hours into the investigation, and the police have not received even one tip. None.

LE confirmed the family was home by 11 pm Friday night.



I'd think a 6-year-old could, and would, open the door for someone she knew.

I have had a million talks with my son about safety. He will be 6 in 2 months. We have chain locks high up on put doors because both him and my 3 yr old can unlock the deadbolts on our doors. I have told him time and time again that he is not allowed to open the door to anyone, even when he knows we are expecting company. His godmother comes every weekday morning to drop off her daughter that I babysit during the day and almost every morning, he runs to the door and tries to open or before me because he knows its his Nanny. He completely ignores what I tell him about safety and opening (or attempting to open) the door so I can definitely see her opening the door. It has also Beene experience that kids don't think about closing doors behind them. "you weren't raised in a barn!" Is a popular way of telling kids to close the door.
I do have an issue with what was packed up. If I ask my kid to pack to go somewhere, I guarantee I will find a suitcase full of Legos, his stuffed tiger, and his Nintendo DS. He would not pack his toothbrush or even clothes even though he brushes his teeth 3x a day. He just wouldn't think of those things because I do. Maybe she did grab her own toiletries but that seems like more of a caregiver thing to me. Kids just don't logically think of these things that we do. IMO
 
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"So far everything has been consistent with what family members have told us up to this point," said Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office spokesperson Colonel John Fortunato.
"In the event that this child may have for some reason decided to walk out of the home alone, we want to make sure that any convicted felons on the pedophile list in this area are visited," said Fortunato. "So we went ahead and knocked on their doors to be certain their homes are secure."
"I don't know where to start looking, I don't know who, what, where or how," said Lisa North. "I don't know where to start at."
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Inv...ch-for-missing-6-year-old-girl-215465121.html

The mother looked worn down and exhausted to me. JMO
 
  • #138
Yet another way of spelling her name... Ahlittia North...
 
  • #139
But, what are the chances that an adult would even risk coming to the family's apartment in the middle of the night--with two adults in the home--manage to get the child's attention from outside of a bolted and locked door, and convince the child to unlock the door, take the time to retrieve her blanket, toothbrush, and tube of toothpaste, and whisk the child away without leaving one trace of evidence or elicit even one sighting of the child? I would like to know if the apartment complex has any surveillance cameras. If there are cameras, you would think something out of the ordinary would have been recorded in regards to Ahlitta's disappearance. JMOO.
rbbm
Pretty slim that a perp would plan an abduction that way. I said if one "happened along", meaning someone who knew the family, saw a light on downstairs in the early morning hours and tapped on the door because he thought the dad or mom was up, but found the little one was awake instead. Crimes of opportunity are called that for a reason. They're conceived and executed very quickly.

I do have an issue with what was packed up. If I ask my kid to pack to go somewhere, I guarantee I will find a suitcase full of Legos, his stuffed tiger, and his Nintendo DS. He would not pack his toothbrush or even clothes even though he brushes his teeth 3x a day. He just wouldn't think of those things because I do. Maybe she did grab her own toiletries but that seems like more of a caregiver thing to me. Kids just don't logically think of these things that we do. IMO
rsbm
My little niece at six-years-old would have insisted she take her toothbrush, paste, floss, comb and brush, hair ties, barrettes, Barbie, Barbie's wardrobe, blanket, pillow, Spongebob, and five changes of clothes.
 
  • #140
still no news on finding this little girl, but police presence is high in the neighborhood..in other local news 3 people were killed on Saturday in a shoot out that left a 2 year old baby with a bullet in his chest fighting for his life..How they can report only 20 deaths so far this year is crazy ,,I"ve counted 14 just this month alone
 

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