LA - ***ARREST*** Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette, 19 May 2012 #38

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Dyingtoknowthetruth,
I think your posts have all of us "dying to know the truth" as well.
This case just keeps getting more questionable and interesting.

Ocean, if I may give an opinion here. Our threads have a tendency to zoom by which can be daunting for a newcomer. If we could be patient and allow the posts made be what Dyingtoknowthetruth has come to say, IMHO, that would awesome.

And as others have expressed, we are truly sorry for the family's loss.

Thank you for coming to WS.
 
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Gertie Martie, the grandmother of one of Lisa's sons, said Lisa did not show up for her son's birthday party. His birthday is July 3rd.

http://www.katc.com/full-coverage/searching-for-mickey-shunick/
The day Lisa went missing is fresh in her mind. Pate didn't show up for one of her children's birthday parties.

Gertie Martie, Bryant Martie’s grandmother, says she can still picture Pate’s face when she closes her eyes.

“All I know is that I loved her. She was a sweet girl, a good mother who loved her children,” Gertie Martie said.

http://www.louisianau.com/news_results4.php?Inst_id=19
As Gertie Martie stood at her home on Wilcox Street on Thursday, she recalled how strange Pate’s disappearance was at the time. She said she remembers Pate missing a birthday party the family was planning for one of the children.

“We couldn’t figure out why,” Gertie Martie said.

A lot of my birthday parties were not on my birthday... just sayin'.

I think we have a hole here that people are instinctively trying to paper over.

Until I know the date of the birthday party, I cannot assume that it was on July 3rd.
 
  • #1,624
July 3, 1999 was a Saturday... so yes, there's a good chance that it was held on that date.

But I have not seen it officially said.

I have heard that her son's birthday was July 3rd.
I have heard that she didn't show up for his party.

Those two statements do not fix the date of the party.
 
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Ocean, if I may give an opinion here. Our threads have a tendency to zoom by which can be daunting for a newcomer. If we could be patient and allow the posts made be what Dyingtoknowthetruth has come to say, IMHO, that would awesome.

And as others have expressed, we are truly sorry for the family's loss.

Thank you for coming to WS.

Agreed.
Sorry I wasn't trying to come off as pushing the new user into a rush or anything like that! Sorry if it came off as such.

I am very sorry for the families loss as well.
I hope somehow they can get answers after all this time.
 
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Anyway, regardless of the exact date, a piece of info that has not come out was:

Who was the last person to report seeing LP, when, and where?

I remember from early media reports that she was last seen in Lafayette.
 
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There is so much information/misinformation regarding Lisa Pate. Some of it we have links to, some of it is rumor, some of it is speculation, and somehow it all keeps getting mixed together.

I'm not too concerned about the circumstances surrounding Lisa's disappearance and murder. There don't seem to be many verifiable details that we can uncover at this point, IMO. The facts will come out at trial and, I assume, it will all make sense at that point.

I believe we will be hearing soon from someone who can answer all questions about the car wreck that many have been discussing.
 
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oops!
CF beat me to it!


12 years later warrant still active for Lavergne
"the woman says Lavergne confronted at her work, at Doctor's Hospital in Opelousas, over a truck they owned. She refused to give it to him, that's when she claims Lavergne stormed out."
http://www.katc.com/full-coverage/searching-for-mickey-shunick/

WONDER what was in that TRUCK!!!!
 
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July 3, 1999 was a Saturday... so yes, there's a good chance that it was held on that date.

But I have not seen it officially said.

I have heard that her son's birthday was July 3rd.
I have heard that she didn't show up for his party.

Those two statements do not fix the date of the party.

The first thing that strikes me about this is, as a mother, why wouldn't LP be the person hosting her son's birthday party? I'm guessing she lived separately and her mother looked after her boys. Just trying to figure this out. If that is the case, then how can her mother be certain LP did not disappear before July 3rd? :twocents:
 
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Even if the party was july 3rd ..she could have been missing or dead before that date. Maybe her family was use to not talking to her every day....but knew she should have been to her childs party.
 
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This is my first time posting so I hope I am doing this correctly...

The car accident was not July 3, 1999, it was June 19, 1999. As far as the police report shows BSL was not a passenger in that car. My brother is the one who died from this accident. I have lots of information that could possibly clear up many of your questions, but I'm not sure what I can and can't post. I must say though, to date, we have not been told the truth by either of the other occupants of the car accident. I hope soon the truth will be revealed so we can have closure as well.

I misquoted earlier, forgive me.

Many here will help you become "verified"

From the bottom of my heart, thanks so much for being here.
Tell your own story.

xo
 
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The first thing that strikes me about this is, as a mother, why wouldn't LP be the person hosting her son's birthday party? I'm guessing she lived separately and her mother looked after her boys. Just trying to figure this out. If that is the case, then how can her mother be certain LP did not disappear before July 3rd? :twocents:

I don't think anyone really means to say that she disappeared on July 3rd.

It's semantics. Her disappearance was noted on July 3rd.
 
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You'd think the "last seen" date would be in the Advertiser article from 1999. ClaireT should have access *hint hint*

I'm thinking language such as: "Pate was last seen in Lafayette on June XX,"
 
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The first thing that strikes me about this is, as a mother, why wouldn't LP be the person hosting her son's birthday party? I'm guessing she lived separately and her mother looked after her boys. Just trying to figure this out. If that is the case, then how can her mother be certain LP did not disappear before July 3rd? :twocents:

Families Await Justice
"Members of Pate's family are relieved to finally have an arrest. Pate did have three children, a daughter who just a few weeks old, the family did give up for adoption. "
http://www.katc.com/full-coverage/searching-for-mickey-shunick/

I think LP had some major problems.
She had JUST had a baby. (not the same father of the boys?)

Martie is the paternal grandmother.

Lisa may have chosen to give the baby up for adoption
on her own... needed some time away w/e...

That COULD explain some things...

*The adoption "could" factor in with BSL and LP if she told him about it.

IF he was even there..
 
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Anyway, regardless of the exact date, a piece of info that has not come out was:

Who was the last person to report seeing LP, when, and where?

I remember from early media reports that she was last seen in Lafayette.

This is a great question... Who saw her last and on what date?
What exactly do we know about Lisa's actions just before she was reported missing? Where did she live, did her landlord see her in June? Roommate? Did she work at the restaurant or bar mentioned in the previous thread? If so, when was she last clocked in at work? And did she know BSL? :banghead: so many questions!!!
We know that her family (brother) thought that her lifestyle may have contributed to her death. And that once she missed the child's birthday party, the family knew something was wrong.

Answering this might shine more light into BSL's interactions with this victim and help us understand why he placed her where he did. If any of this can help us get into BSL's mind and uncover what he considers to be a good hiding place, then it has value in finding Mickey, IMO.
 
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Just curious ...... Would that also justify a broken hyoid? :waitasec:

But....is the broken hyoid bone positively true or have we convinced ourselves of it because of the asphyxiation cause of death?
 
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This is my first time posting so I hope I am doing this correctly...

The car accident was not July 3, 1999, it was June 19, 1999. As far as the police report shows BSL was not a passenger in that car. My brother is the one who died from this accident. I have lots of information that could possibly clear up many of your questions, but I'm not sure what I can and can't post. I must say though, to date, we have not been told the truth by either of the other occupants of the car accident. I hope soon the truth will be revealed so we can have closure as well.

So glad you finally made it here DTKTT!!!!!
 
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I do not think we know for fact that LP's hyoid bone was broken.
We do know for a fact that the grand jury is convinced that there is enough for a murder one charge. So I think evidence (new to the case) was found and this evidence proves murder and that bsl was responsible. Would love to know what that evidence is!!!
Ugh...we gotta wait 2 years to find out....
 
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Thanks so much for joining us.

Please become verified, many will help with the process.

xo


Many of you have questions and I don't have all the answers, but I hope to find them out soon. It's been a long 13 years. Yes, this does bring up those memories, but if we are able to help another family get the truth that is all I want....the truth of the night of June 19, 1999.

I have sent an email to become an insider and will post what I know so that it can clear many of the misconceptions regarding my brother.

Thank you for your patience while I await my approval to post my side of the story.
 
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